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[Slayer299]

I just beat ME2 a few days ago and after certain events there it got me thinking, like who decided to spare the Rachni Queen and who didn't and why they made that decision. For me on both recent playthroughs in ME1 I've spared the Queen, wasn't trying for the Paragon points. It just felt wrong to wipe her out like that, to my Shep it seemed that this wasn't one of the genocidal Rachni so killing her woujld accomplish nothing. That decision was made w/o any knowledge of ME 2 as well since i replayed ME to get my Shep's choices into ME2.

[caradoc2000]

I usually spare her - genocide is not an option for most of my Shepards.

[DPSSOC]

I normall kill her, mainly because I don't have the option to leaver her there. The Rachni pose a potential danger to the galaxy (the very nearly overwhelmed the Citadel forces before and we don't have the Krogan anymore). Now while this Rachni seems sincere in their desire to just live in peace and they mean no harm I don't have the right to make that decision for the rest of the galaxy, it's one of the few times I agree with the Turian Councillor. So since I don't have the right to unleash that potential hell on the galaxy, and I can't just leave her in the tank and let the Council decide, she's gotta die.



I do wish there was a way to remorsefully kill the Rachni, like have Shepard say to the Queen, "I'm sorry but I can't risk letting you go." Now I'm not one who thinks that Shepard looks happy about it but what he says to the Queen makes Shepard look like a bit of a dick.

[CaptainZaysh]

I always interpreted Shepard's tough talk as a way of psyching him/herself up to do something truly unpleasant.

[Ocelot83]

Saved her usually.



The Rachni will probably end up "betraying" Shepard in ME 3, since they are very vulnerable to Reaper indoctrination. Indoctrinate the queen and the whole race will follow.

[Akimb0]

I saved her in the hopes of my own grateful army of super Rachni.

[Slayer299]

Ocelot83 wrote...

Saved her usually.

The Rachni will probably end up "betraying" Shepard in ME 3, since they are very vulnerable to Reaper indoctrination. Indoctrinate the queen and the whole race will follow.

Hmmmm, now there's an interesting thought, one I hadn't really thought of before. Kind of scary if that would happen....

[Karstedt]

I've seen no evidence that the rachni are particularly susceptible to indoctrination. Quite the contrary in fact, it seemed less susceptible. The Queen was imprisoned and probed for information, but did not seem to be under the indoctrination at all.

[amrose2]

Karstedt wrote...

I've seen no evidence that the rachni are particularly susceptible to indoctrination. Quite the contrary in fact, it seemed less susceptible. The Queen was imprisoned and probed for information, but did not seem to be under the indoctrination at all.

They mean the Rachni during the Rachni wars, which was caused by the Reapers either through indoctrination or some other method of disrupting their way of control, "souring their songs" as the Queen says.

The facility on Noveria wasn't exposed to Sovereign's indoctrination - just scientists running experiments to see if the Rachni could be controlled.

Modifié par amrose2, 16 février 2010 - 03:01 .

[nikki191]

rachni companion for ME3 would be .. interesting haha

[horas1990]

Minor Spoilers:



If u save the queen in ME 1 and talk to the asari in ME 2, she will tell u how their song which controls them was corrupted and it could possibly have been done by the reapers so they rachni r probably innocent. Also if the queen was that bad or planned on screwing Shepard y would she send someone to thank him

[Slayer299]

Yeah, I was surprised when that happened on Illios, but that's what got me thinking about who did and didn't. I didn't say anything since I didn't want to get hit for spoiling that ME2 scene.

[DPSSOC]

horas1990 wrote...
Also if the queen was that bad or planned on screwing Shepard y would she send someone to thank him

To give the impression that everything's sunshine and rainbows.  Do this little experiment tell a friend to turn their back to you and no matter what don't look behind them.  Once they've complied do nothing and see how long it takes them to look back.  The Queen may have sent that message so you don't get suspiscious about what she's doing.  Or not I'm paranoid and this is what I came up with. 

[Astranagant]

I always free her. There's no reason to assume the Rachni are somehow more susceptible to indoctrination than any other species since the process is nanomachines changing the hardwiring of the victims' brains.

[xI extremist Ix]

The queen knows that what the Rachni did in the past was wrong.



SPOILER!!!!

In ME2 on Ilium her agent tells you that the Rachni will soon be able to fight with you, or something to that detail.

[DPSSOC]

xI extremist Ix wrote...

The queen knows that what the Rachni did in the past was wrong.

Knowing something is wrong has never stopped anyone in the history of mankind from doing it, and it's made clear in the game just how human the other races are.

As for ME2 if she's lying in ME she's still lying in ME2 and only ME3 can confirm whether she was telling the truth or not.  Reiteration does not equate to truth, no matter how many times I say there's a purple monkey sitting on my shoulder it won't change the fact that he's blue.

[S.DeMarche]

I have played it both ways, but my tendency is to kill the Rachni. The threat she represents to the Council races in the future is just too great. There was good reason that they were hunted to extinction and not just defeated 2000 years ago.



That being said...my main Shepard let her live. Second chances and all that.

[xI extremist Ix]

DPSSOC wrote...

xI extremist Ix wrote...

The queen knows that what the Rachni did in the past was wrong.

Knowing something is wrong has never stopped anyone in the history of mankind from doing it, and it's made clear in the game just how human the other races are.

As for ME2 if she's lying in ME she's still lying in ME2 and only ME3 can confirm whether she was telling the truth or not.  Reiteration does not equate to truth, no matter how many times I say there's a purple monkey sitting on my shoulder it won't change the fact that he's blue.

Mankind has never been hunted to extinction, so how can one say that if a handfull of survivors wouldn't have learned from a mistake they may have made? People see colors differently, Blue and Purple are very close to millions of people, so that simple color change equates to not a big difference and really just a matter of opinion. 

[FlashedMyDrive]

Well, the Queen hinted that the Reapers were the ones who caused the war. (Possible pawns of the Reapers to open the Citadel relay?)



They also hinted that they are building their forces to aid Shepard in the future.



I can bet anything that the Rachni will appear as Allies in ME3.

[Zaxares]

I spared the Rachni Queen, because it wasn't involved in the Rachni Wars. Moreover, I can't condemn someone to death for something they haven't done. It would be like killing a child just because they were the child of a serial killer and might therefore grow up to follow their parent's murdering ways.



Just releasing it into the wilds of Noveria was a REALLY dumb move on Shepard's part though. I'd have preferred to take the whole tank with the Queen in it, and relocate it to some uninhabited, uninteresting world, where there wouldn't be a risk of uncontrolled Rachni stowing away on other ships.

[R-F]

i only spared her once on my paragon play through. i offed her in all the games i continued into ME2, so no more Rachni for me.

[Hyper Cutter]

It goes against my nature to forbid an extinct species a chance to live again...

[Reptilian Rob]

Saved her. Could not wipe out an entire species.

[HTTP 404]

in me2 you recuirt individuals. In ME3 you probably recruit armies to fight off the reapers just like DAO (getting elves, dwarves, humans). ME3 you just get quarians, geth, turians, human alliance, and/or rachni. Not having enough armies may lead to a more devasted galaxy in the end. Killing rachni queen may result in one less army on your side in ME3.



Or maybe I just daydream about this game too much. haha