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[fateofman]

a replicated version of your crew....or at least squad, completely mirroring you, including shield regen and such

[PMorgan18]

Yeah like what everyone else said, Indrocanated races.

Modifié par PMorgan18, 16 février 2010 - 01:38 .

[Zereta]

the shad0wx wrote...

Volus the biotic god who is secretly a reaper.

KNEW IT!

He and the damn Turian Councellor.

[knighteffect]

www.youtube.com/watch

[SL22]

Maybe more advanced husks that can actually think and use tactics?

[Cutlass Jack]

I believe we'll be fighting the reaper 'Procrastinator' and his legion of genetically altered couch potatoes.

"I'll get you Shepard....eventually."

[D4rk50ul808]

After reading an e-mail from Mordin about the Keepers, I've got a bit of a different theory on the entire thing.

He says the Keepers were engineered with the same technology as the Reapers were, by an unknown race. What if the Reapers are simply a fleet of ships with advanced AI's built by a race to help them return to existance.

This race seems to be looking for a particular DNA structure as it conquers worlds. On the Collector ship you see that they were looking for similarities between Prothean and Human DNA.

Ever since the very first mission in ME1 you come across Husks which were stripped of all living tissue and left lifeless. What if the consciouses of this race are trapped in a virtual world or something we don't understand, and they are trying to create new bodies to inhabit. It would explain the end boss of ME2 as well, trying to join their technology with Human DNA to create a new host body. Harbinger says multiple times throughout the game that "We are the beginning, You are the end.".  What if Shepard himself holds the key to the DNA structure that they require, which is why they are targeting him specifically.  Liara even says the Shadow Broker arranged to get Shepards body, I've been under the impression for a long time that the Shadow Broker was on the Reaper side of things.

I bet the final game will have this race revealed to us, and also the reason for its victory in the past. It seems the Protheans took the "Renegade" approach by removing from power the other races and becoming the dominate species. In doing that they may have sealed their fate by not having enough power to overcome the invasion and leading to them being converted into the Collectors. So if you go Paragon you will have the allies you need to overcome the odds and strike this new enemy down. If you go Renegade you will have to do it alone, with no support of the other races.

Edit: Even more to back this up.  All the technology in the universe seems to be from the same race at the pinnacle of its existance.  Everyone assumes somehow that the Reapers just made themselves.  Machines are machines, they were manufacturered at some point by someone.  It was probably the most advanced race at the time, so what better reason to create these "Reapers" than self preservation.  Immortality is the dream of all species that are aware that they will eventually die.

Sorry that was so long, but if you keep that in mind as you sift through the information in both games you might be surprised how much backs the theory. It would also explain Harbinger being able to briefly inhabit a body of a Prothean, only having to leave because it still isn't a perfect match.  If only I could figure out how they keep their spirit whole (Drell maybe?) without having a body to inhabit.

Modifié par D4rk50ul808, 16 février 2010 - 01:53 .

[hogepr]

The Shadow Broker will play a huge roll. Also, the Shadow Broker is a reaper agent or reaper himself and all who work under him are indoctrinated.

[Zereta]

D4rk50ul808 wrote...

After reading an e-mail from Mordin about the Keepers, I've got a bit of a different theory on the entire thing.

He says the Keepers were engineered with the same technology as the Reapers were, by an unknown race. What if the Reapers are simply a fleet of ships with advanced AI's built by a race to help them return to existance.

This race seems to be looking for a particular DNA structure as it conquers worlds. On the Collector ship you see that they were looking for similarities between Prothean and Human DNA.

Ever since the very first mission in ME1 you come across Husks which were stripped of all living tissue and left lifeless. What if the consciouses of this race are trapped in a virtual world or something we don't understand, and they are trying to create new bodies to inhabit. It would explain the end boss of ME2 as well, trying to join their technology with Human DNA to create a new host body. Harbinger says multiple times throughout the game that "We are the beginning, You are the end.".

I bet the final game will have this race revealed to us, and also the reason for its victory in the past. It seems the Protheans took the "Renegade" approach by removing from power the other races and becoming the dominate species. In doing that they may have sealed their fate by not having enough power to overcome the invasion and leading to them being converted into the Collectors. So if you go Paragon you will have the allies you need to overcome the odds and strike this new enemy down. If you go Renegade you will have to do it alone, with no support of the other races.

Sorry that was so long, but if you keep that in mind as you sift through the information in both games you might be surprised how much backs the theory. It would also explain Harbinger being able to briefly inhabit a body of a Prothean, only having to leave because it still isn't a perfect match.

Logic right there.

[Vaenier]

Mercs.

Advanced Husks that have been in stasis on the reaper fleet.

geth or quarians or both to stop their war.

robots.

reaper avatars. [Saren boss fight, not blue aliens... >..> ]

zerg bug things and varren?

a shepard clone, without the help of your squad.

your mind as you slowly go nuts from indoctrination. [shep has spent the longest time with reapers so far without being indoctrinated. its only a few more seconds of exposure away before he starts seeing things.]

Cerberus or alliance depending on who wants you dead.

A reaper with only a pocket knife, roll of ducttape and a few paper clips.

[D4rk50ul808]

D4rk50ul808 wrote...

After reading an e-mail from Mordin about the Keepers, I've got a bit of a different theory on the entire thing.

He says the Keepers were engineered with the same technology as the Reapers were, by an unknown race. What if the Reapers are simply a fleet of ships with advanced AI's built by a race to help them return to existance.

This race seems to be looking for a particular DNA structure as it conquers worlds. On the Collector ship you see that they were looking for similarities between Prothean and Human DNA.

Ever since the very first mission in ME1 you come across Husks which were stripped of all living tissue and left lifeless. What if the consciouses of this race are trapped in a virtual world or something we don't understand, and they are trying to create new bodies to inhabit. It would explain the end boss of ME2 as well, trying to join their technology with Human DNA to create a new host body. Harbinger says multiple times throughout the game that "We are the beginning, You are the end.".  What if Shepard himself holds the key to the DNA structure that they require, which is why they are targeting him specifically.  Liara even says the Shadow Broker arranged to get Shepards body, I've been under the impression for a long time that the Shadow Broker was on the Reaper side of things.

I bet the final game will have this race revealed to us, and also the reason for its victory in the past. It seems the Protheans took the "Renegade" approach by removing from power the other races and becoming the dominate species. In doing that they may have sealed their fate by not having enough power to overcome the invasion and leading to them being converted into the Collectors. So if you go Paragon you will have the allies you need to overcome the odds and strike this new enemy down. If you go Renegade you will have to do it alone, with no support of the other races.

Edit: Even more to back this up.  All the technology in the universe seems to be from the same race at the pinnacle of its existance.  Everyone assumes somehow that the Reapers just made themselves.  Machines are machines, they were manufacturered at some point by someone.  It was probably the most advanced race at the time, so what better reason to create these "Reapers" than self preservation.  Immortality is the dream of all species that are aware that they will eventually die.

Sorry that was so long, but if you keep that in mind as you sift through the information in both games you might be surprised how much backs the theory. It would also explain Harbinger being able to briefly inhabit a body of a Prothean, only having to leave because it still isn't a perfect match.  If only I could figure out how they keep their spirit whole (Drell maybe?) without having a body to inhabit.

Edited for additional info.

[Kajan451]

I think we will fight the Hanar & Drell. The Hanar already call the Protheans the Enkindlers. And they seem to be pretty religious.



In ME1 the preacher Hanar talks about how the Enkindlers gave speech to the Hanar and stuff. And as we find out, at a later time, that the Reapers built the Mass Effect Portals and such and how the proteans serve the reapers now.



The most logical step (maschine mind and such) would be to contact the Hanar and reveal yourself as their gods. They already pray to you.. so you might as well use them. The drell are duty bound to the Hanar.



So yes.. i kind of think the Hanar are a good bet and it would close a circle.



And i believe the Dark Matter thing will play a role. Tali mentions it, about the Sun starting to die because of Dark Matter. I think its possible the Reapers are behind that.

[D4rk50ul808]

I mentioned the Drell because they believe that their Spirit and Body are completely separate. It would give a possible way for these ancient beings to still be alive, but without a host body.



I highly doubt the main enemy will be anything we have seen yet. I'm sure there is a higher power behind this.



When you find the Prothean Vid thing in the ME2 side mission, why does it show a Collector in the same vision as was in ME1? Is that a vision of the past, or one of the future? How could Protheans make a video of a Collector if THEY are the Collectors? Either they weren't the first race made into Collectors or those visions are of the future not the past.

[JThompson6577]

The Turians.

They feel slighted because the new kids in town didn't have to wipe out some rebellion like they did to get on the Council (even though they really did) and end up getting in bed with Harbinger to go to war with the Alliance.



And it all culminates with Shepard nut-shotting the Turian Councilor and then putting Wrex on the Council FTW.

[Talogrungi]

D4rk50ul808 wrote...

After reading an e-mail from Mordin about the Keepers, I've got a bit of a different theory on the entire thing.

He says the Keepers were engineered with the same technology as the Reapers were, by an unknown race. What if the Reapers are simply a fleet of ships with advanced AI's built by a race to help them return to existance.

This race seems to be looking for a particular DNA structure as it conquers worlds. On the Collector ship you see that they were looking for similarities between Prothean and Human DNA.

Ever since the very first mission in ME1 you come across Husks which were stripped of all living tissue and left lifeless. What if the consciouses of this race are trapped in a virtual world or something we don't understand, and they are trying to create new bodies to inhabit. It would explain the end boss of ME2 as well, trying to join their technology with Human DNA to create a new host body. Harbinger says multiple times throughout the game that "We are the beginning, You are the end.".  What if Shepard himself holds the key to the DNA structure that they require, which is why they are targeting him specifically.  Liara even says the Shadow Broker arranged to get Shepards body, I've been under the impression for a long time that the Shadow Broker was on the Reaper side of things.

I bet the final game will have this race revealed to us, and also the reason for its victory in the past. It seems the Protheans took the "Renegade" approach by removing from power the other races and becoming the dominate species. In doing that they may have sealed their fate by not having enough power to overcome the invasion and leading to them being converted into the Collectors. So if you go Paragon you will have the allies you need to overcome the odds and strike this new enemy down. If you go Renegade you will have to do it alone, with no support of the other races.

Edit: Even more to back this up.  All the technology in the universe seems to be from the same race at the pinnacle of its existance.  Everyone assumes somehow that the Reapers just made themselves.  Machines are machines, they were manufacturered at some point by someone.  It was probably the most advanced race at the time, so what better reason to create these "Reapers" than self preservation.  Immortality is the dream of all species that are aware that they will eventually die.

Sorry that was so long, but if you keep that in mind as you sift through the information in both games you might be surprised how much backs the theory. It would also explain Harbinger being able to briefly inhabit a body of a Prothean, only having to leave because it still isn't a perfect match.  If only I could figure out how they keep their spirit whole (Drell maybe?) without having a body to inhabit.

Sound logic. Collectors cited to have prolonged interest in genetic mutation and evolutionary traits. Interest in left-handed Salarians and Batarian twins reported. Collector behaviour suggests search for highly specific organic parameters. Collectors controlled by Reapers. No individual thought. Conclusion simple. Reapers searching for highly specific organic parameters.

Reason unknown.

Modifié par Talogrungi, 16 février 2010 - 03:34 .

[Beholderess]

Council, which *still* won't believe me)

[smudboy]

An army of giant Arnolds.



It's like God of War meets Shadow of the Colossus, TPS/RTS space platforming hybrid with dialog trees and romance options. And sex mini games.

[Spinnazie]

We'll probably get a "WHAT A TWIST!" and the reapers will actually have some kind of sentient race aboard them.

[ebola9717]

Tooneyman wrote...

Madecologist wrote...

Tooneyman wrote...

At the end of mass effect 2 a reaper is let loose from the collectors base. I have a feeling it will indoctrinate someone you love and they will become your enemy. Could you imagine fighting ashley/kaiden/ or liara as your final boss. Damn what a story arc.

Though there is one reaper left for shepard to kill. It was detached itself from the collectors base if this makes you feel better.

It did not detach itself persay. It only released control. It is still in Dark Space. Worst, it is not just one... the ending shows you him waking up his buddies, and there is a lot of them. I mean.. A LOT.

No because if your remember correctly. Its either EDI/joker who tells you there is a ship attached to the collector base, which if you pay attention to the screen shot is actually a reaper. It was hard to see, but I watch the video over and over a lot.

I may be wrong but I think you're thinking of the derelict reaper. Joker tells you that there is a ship attached to it that has the resemblance of a geth ship. Which would have to be Legion's ship. I've played the last mission 4 times and I never saw or heard anything about a reaper being attached to the collector base.

[IndomitusRex]

I have a feeling we'll be seeing the original creators of the Reapers. As we saw at the end of ME2, with the Human Reaper, the Reapers are created in the image of an organic race whose qualities inspired the machines. The indoctrinated, Husk-ified proto-Reapers could be pretty sweet enemies.



I'm sure we will still get a double handful of mercenaries, Krogan, Geth, mechs and alien beasts to fight. I mean, it's not like you have to slog through endless swarms of minions for a foe to qualify as your arch-nemesis. In ME2 we only fought the Collectors on Horizon, on the Collector Ship, and during the suicide mission, and yet they were undoubtedly the main enemy of the game.

[rabbitchannel]

Waves of Abominations. Yay!



I don't think the Collectors were ALL destroyed. Harbinger is still alive. It wouldn't make sense that it was just him all alone in a room somewhere. After the base exploded he would have just sat there like, "..."

[Brijenieve]

Talogrungi wrote...

D4rk50ul808 wrote...

After reading an e-mail from Mordin about the Keepers, I've got a bit of a different theory on the entire thing.

He says the Keepers were engineered with the same technology as the Reapers were, by an unknown race. What if the Reapers are simply a fleet of ships with advanced AI's built by a race to help them return to existance.

This race seems to be looking for a particular DNA structure as it conquers worlds. On the Collector ship you see that they were looking for similarities between Prothean and Human DNA.

Ever since the very first mission in ME1 you come across Husks which were stripped of all living tissue and left lifeless. What if the consciouses of this race are trapped in a virtual world or something we don't understand, and they are trying to create new bodies to inhabit. It would explain the end boss of ME2 as well, trying to join their technology with Human DNA to create a new host body. Harbinger says multiple times throughout the game that "We are the beginning, You are the end.".  What if Shepard himself holds the key to the DNA structure that they require, which is why they are targeting him specifically.  Liara even says the Shadow Broker arranged to get Shepards body, I've been under the impression for a long time that the Shadow Broker was on the Reaper side of things.

I bet the final game will have this race revealed to us, and also the reason for its victory in the past. It seems the Protheans took the "Renegade" approach by removing from power the other races and becoming the dominate species. In doing that they may have sealed their fate by not having enough power to overcome the invasion and leading to them being converted into the Collectors. So if you go Paragon you will have the allies you need to overcome the odds and strike this new enemy down. If you go Renegade you will have to do it alone, with no support of the other races.

Edit: Even more to back this up.  All the technology in the universe seems to be from the same race at the pinnacle of its existance.  Everyone assumes somehow that the Reapers just made themselves.  Machines are machines, they were manufacturered at some point by someone.  It was probably the most advanced race at the time, so what better reason to create these "Reapers" than self preservation.  Immortality is the dream of all species that are aware that they will eventually die.

Sorry that was so long, but if you keep that in mind as you sift through the information in both games you might be surprised how much backs the theory. It would also explain Harbinger being able to briefly inhabit a body of a Prothean, only having to leave because it still isn't a perfect match.  If only I could figure out how they keep their spirit whole (Drell maybe?) without having a body to inhabit.

Sound logic. Collectors cited to have prolonged interest in genetic mutation and evolutionary traits. Interest in left-handed Salarians and Batarian twins reported. Collector behaviour suggests search for highly specific organic parameters. Collectors controlled by Reapers. No individual thought. Conclusion simple. Reapers searching for highly specific organic parameters.

Reason unknown.

That makes a LOT of sense.

And I can't get out of my head what was said as the Collector base was being destroyed: 
Harbinger: Human, you've changed nothing. Your species has attracted the attention of those infinitely your greater. That which you know as Reapers are your salvation through destruction.
Harbinger: *turns to Collector General* You have failed. We will find another way. Releasing control.
Collector General: *looks around in confusion and sadness, possibly for the first time in its life, as fire immolates the entire room*

Modifié par Brijenieve, 16 février 2010 - 04:58 .

[madisk]

Haestrom's sun.



Dark energy.

[Thargorichiban]

I'd imagine in the last game the enemies on the ground will likely be husks, scions, etc. Indoctrination will probably occur at a level unheard of in previous games. I also believe that many of the mercenary groups might prostrate themselves at the "knees" of the conquering machines and serve them in an attempt to be spared.



I think it is probably possible that several alien governments might try the same idea: serving the Reapers so they will be spared. I imagine that the Batarians probably will be the first to jump on this bandwagon due to their negative relations with the rest of the galaxy.

[Legbiter]

The Reapers send a sour yellow note to the Rachni and the carebears get to do them in proper this time.