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[NatOreN]

D4rk50ul808 wrote...

After reading an e-mail from Mordin about the Keepers, I've got a bit of a different theory on the entire thing.

He says the Keepers were engineered with the same technology as the Reapers were, by an unknown race. What if the Reapers are simply a fleet of ships with advanced AI's built by a race to help them return to existance.

This race seems to be looking for a particular DNA structure as it conquers worlds. On the Collector ship you see that they were looking for similarities between Prothean and Human DNA.

Ever since the very first mission in ME1 you come across Husks which were stripped of all living tissue and left lifeless. What if the consciouses of this race are trapped in a virtual world or something we don't understand, and they are trying to create new bodies to inhabit. It would explain the end boss of ME2 as well, trying to join their technology with Human DNA to create a new host body. Harbinger says multiple times throughout the game that "We are the beginning, You are the end.".  What if Shepard himself holds the key to the DNA structure that they require, which is why they are targeting him specifically.  Liara even says the Shadow Broker arranged to get Shepards body, I've been under the impression for a long time that the Shadow Broker was on the Reaper side of things.

I bet the final game will have this race revealed to us, and also the reason for its victory in the past. It seems the Protheans took the "Renegade" approach by removing from power the other races and becoming the dominate species. In doing that they may have sealed their fate by not having enough power to overcome the invasion and leading to them being converted into the Collectors. So if you go Paragon you will have the allies you need to overcome the odds and strike this new enemy down. If you go Renegade you will have to do it alone, with no support of the other races.

Edit: Even more to back this up.  All the technology in the universe seems to be from the same race at the pinnacle of its existance.  Everyone assumes somehow that the Reapers just made themselves.  Machines are machines, they were manufacturered at some point by someone.  It was probably the most advanced race at the time, so what better reason to create these "Reapers" than self preservation.  Immortality is the dream of all species that are aware that they will eventually die.

Sorry that was so long, but if you keep that in mind as you sift through the information in both games you might be surprised how much backs the theory. It would also explain Harbinger being able to briefly inhabit a body of a Prothean, only having to leave because it still isn't a perfect match.  If only I could figure out how they keep their spirit whole (Drell maybe?) without having a body to inhabit.

That's very interesting. But what's this about an e-mail from Mordin?

As for the topic; We will either face up against the Reaper's creators or an army of Mr. Fuzzoms, the Hamster-Reapers. *shot*

[Llandaryn]

who would be the main enemy in combat in Mass Effect 3?

Kaidan.

The bastard publically dumped me, and hell hath no fury like a femShep scorned.

[kaotician]

The Republican Party will be the main enemies of human life inME3 - to underline and emphasise the realism of the game.

[Invalidcode]

Darkspawn..NO I mean Dark energy powered Hanar.

[S1at3]

Modifié par S1at3, 16 février 2010 - 08:15 .

[davidt0504]

AlbertoAquilani wrote...

In Mass Effect we fought the Heretic Geth. In Mass Effect 2 we pretty much destroyed the Heretic Geth, and I doubt they'd follow he Reapers again.

In Mass Effect 2 we had the Collectors, but we all but destroyed them.

In the third one, I've no idea. It wouldn't be the Reapers themselves, can you honestly expect to fight those things in combat scenarios? Any guesses? One thing I just hope is that it's not Husks, I hate Husks, they are the least interesting enemy to fight by far. The Reaper mission bored me because of it.

I didn't read the whole topic but I think it might be husks but not the ones we've seen so far, it was stated in me2 on horizon that the husks are evolving.  The reapers might start studying certain races that are good for husks and work to improve their preformance over time until they have viable ground forces.  We saw the scions and praetorians this time around, maybe next time we'll have actual things that shoot guns.

[Tooneyman]

Barker673 wrote...

Tooneyman wrote...

No because if your remember correctly. Its either EDI/joker who tells you there is a ship attached to the collector base, which if you pay attention to the screen shot is actually a reaper. It was hard to see, but I watch the video over and over a lot.

Can you provide a link and time slot on YouTube?

I could try to prove it. I will look into this issue a little deeper, but I'm not the only one who has seen this. I got this information off another gamer and then went a played the game again and little to the dialogue. I also played replayed the final mission to many times.
From what I got from the final mission was a extra reaper was set free from the collectors ship and I have a feeling the final battle will be them trying to destroy the citadel one more time.
I'm not going to lie. I would destroy the citadel just so the stupid reapers couldn't come back from dark space period. The citadel was how they where going to invade in the first game. I don't know but I see them trying again.

[lord magnious]

AlbertoAquilani wrote...

In Mass Effect we fought the Heretic Geth. In Mass Effect 2 we pretty much destroyed the Heretic Geth, and I doubt they'd follow he Reapers again.

In Mass Effect 2 we had the Collectors, but we all but destroyed them.

In the third one, I've no idea. It wouldn't be the Reapers themselves, can you honestly expect to fight those things in combat scenarios? Any guesses? One thing I just hope is that it's not Husks, I hate Husks, they are the least interesting enemy to fight by far. The Reaper mission bored me because of it.

You know the third Mass Effect book called Retribution, TIM (The Illusive Man) is experimenting with Reaper technology one a human. So, what if said Reaper human gets lose and goes crazy (Like every thing in Cerberus) and tries to conatct them and/or help the Reapers return... or something like that.

Modifié par lord magnious, 16 février 2010 - 09:47 .

[Invalidcode]

S1at3 wrote...

LOL SpaceBalls

[KalenNighteyes]

AlbertoAquilani wrote...

In Mass Effect we fought the Heretic Geth. In Mass Effect 2 we pretty much destroyed the Heretic Geth, and I doubt they'd follow he Reapers again.

In Mass Effect 2 we had the Collectors, but we all but destroyed them.

In the third one, I've no idea. It wouldn't be the Reapers themselves, can you honestly expect to fight those things in combat scenarios? Any guesses? One thing I just hope is that it's not Husks, I hate Husks, they are the least interesting enemy to fight by far. The Reaper mission bored me because of it.

As long as the Reapers exist Husks will exist too. No way around it.

I'm betting that in ME3 we will find out that the Reapers have a hive-like system and that if you implant something that destroyes Harbinger, because Harbinger is obviously the leader, you will destroy all Reapers. That is the only logical thing I see.

[davidt0504]

KalenNighteyes wrote...

AlbertoAquilani wrote...

In Mass Effect we fought the Heretic Geth. In Mass Effect 2 we pretty much destroyed the Heretic Geth, and I doubt they'd follow he Reapers again.

In Mass Effect 2 we had the Collectors, but we all but destroyed them.

In the third one, I've no idea. It wouldn't be the Reapers themselves, can you honestly expect to fight those things in combat scenarios? Any guesses? One thing I just hope is that it's not Husks, I hate Husks, they are the least interesting enemy to fight by far. The Reaper mission bored me because of it.

As long as the Reapers exist Husks will exist too. No way around it.

I'm betting that in ME3 we will find out that the Reapers have a hive-like system and that if you implant something that destroyes Harbinger, because Harbinger is obviously the leader, you will destroy all Reapers. That is the only logical thing I see.

I don't think anything in me2 directly relates to harbinger being the leader, he could be just another sovereign type person, with a more controlling character still out there, but he probably is lol

[Nizzemancer]

Madecologist wrote...

Well Dark Energy comes up often in Mass Effect 2. Plus we get a lot of little teaser for things to come, about the Geth and the Migrant Fleet. So even if you mess up with Tali and Legion, expect those two to make an appearence in ME3.
Also we never saw this Batarian uprising we been warned about in the DLC for Mass Effect 1. Maybe the Batarians will become willing allies of the Reaper, they hatred of the Council and Humans are perfect they will agree to an alliance that the Reapers will most certainly not honour.
Other power player I can imagine that can be seduced into a Reaper alliance or helping them is the Shadow Broker and ironically, the Illusive Man. Either willingly or unwittingly, working into their plan.

In case you missed the whole codex about Biotics it's stated that Biotics is the manipulation of Dark Energy, it doesn't seem like something strange to talk about considering everyone and their mother is a biotic.

We will probably be fighting Mercs, Husks,  and some indoctrinated people, (in ME2 we saw different configurations of husks as well it's probably safe to say that there will be more variations in ME3) while searching for a way to kill all the reapers in one fell swoop (a key or code to reprogramming the keepers into transforming the citadel into a gigantic reaper-killing battle-station anyone? The proteans were sure they were the key to beating the reapers according to Vigil, sounds like foreshadowing to me).

Since the Reapers are out in darkspace without the mass relay connecting to the citadel relay opened for them it will probably take until the end game for them to arrive in the galaxy, at which point we will have (barely) retrieved some ancient weapon or something that the reapers creators never quite finished before they got annihilated by their own creation.

Wow...I guess I ranted a little to much here, steered way off target, so in short:
more variations of Husks, more Mercs and more enslaved ancient species.

[przemichal]

Paul Grayson, maybe? And humans, somehow?

Modifié par przemichal, 16 février 2010 - 11:29 .

[Theranon]

Llandaryn wrote...

who would be the main enemy in combat in Mass Effect 3?

Kaidan.

The bastard publically dumped me, and hell hath no fury like a femShep scorned.

this!

[Ulicus]

AlbertoAquilani wrote...

In the third one, I've no idea. It wouldn't be the Reapers themselves, can you honestly expect to fight those things in combat scenarios? Any guesses? One thing I just hope is that it's not Husks, I hate Husks, they are the least interesting enemy to fight by far. The Reaper mission bored me because of it.

It's worth remembering that Shepard originally mistook the Reapers in his vision for the geth.

"I saw synthetics - geth, maybe - slaughtering people. Butchering them."

There's no reason why the Reapers all have to be giant starships.

[D4rk50ul808]

Saivar wrote...

D4rk50ul808 wrote...

After reading an e-mail from Mordin about the Keepers, I've got a bit of a different theory on the entire thing.

He says the Keepers were engineered with the same technology as the Reapers were, by an unknown race. What if the Reapers are simply a fleet of ships with advanced AI's built by a race to help them return to existance.

This race seems to be looking for a particular DNA structure as it conquers worlds. On the Collector ship you see that they were looking for similarities between Prothean and Human DNA.

Ever since the very first mission in ME1 you come across Husks which were stripped of all living tissue and left lifeless. What if the consciouses of this race are trapped in a virtual world or something we don't understand, and they are trying to create new bodies to inhabit. It would explain the end boss of ME2 as well, trying to join their technology with Human DNA to create a new host body. Harbinger says multiple times throughout the game that "We are the beginning, You are the end.".  What if Shepard himself holds the key to the DNA structure that they require, which is why they are targeting him specifically.  Liara even says the Shadow Broker arranged to get Shepards body, I've been under the impression for a long time that the Shadow Broker was on the Reaper side of things.

I bet the final game will have this race revealed to us, and also the reason for its victory in the past. It seems the Protheans took the "Renegade" approach by removing from power the other races and becoming the dominate species. In doing that they may have sealed their fate by not having enough power to overcome the invasion and leading to them being converted into the Collectors. So if you go Paragon you will have the allies you need to overcome the odds and strike this new enemy down. If you go Renegade you will have to do it alone, with no support of the other races.

Edit: Even more to back this up.  All the technology in the universe seems to be from the same race at the pinnacle of its existance.  Everyone assumes somehow that the Reapers just made themselves.  Machines are machines, they were manufacturered at some point by someone.  It was probably the most advanced race at the time, so what better reason to create these "Reapers" than self preservation.  Immortality is the dream of all species that are aware that they will eventually die.

Sorry that was so long, but if you keep that in mind as you sift through the information in both games you might be surprised how much backs the theory. It would also explain Harbinger being able to briefly inhabit a body of a Prothean, only having to leave because it still isn't a perfect match.  If only I could figure out how they keep their spirit whole (Drell maybe?) without having a body to inhabit.

That's very interesting. But what's this about an e-mail from Mordin?

As for the topic; We will either face up against the Reaper's creators or an army of Mr. Fuzzoms, the Hamster-Reapers. *shot*

I assume because I did the scan the keepers quest in my ME1 playthrough, he sent me the e-mail.  It has a lot of information that he found in it.  If you did that quest you should get an e-mail from him in ME2 somewhere towards the middle of the game.

Just play the game and keep that theory in your mind when you read/see stuff.  It starts to become very convincing especially when you take into account the first games events.

[NatOreN]

D4rk50ul808 wrote...

Saivar wrote...

That's very interesting. But what's this about an e-mail from Mordin?

As for the topic; We will either face up against the Reaper's creators or an army of Mr. Fuzzoms, the Hamster-Reapers. *shot*

I assume because I did the scan the keepers quest in my ME1 playthrough, he sent me the e-mail.  It has a lot of information that he found in it.  If you did that quest you should get an e-mail from him in ME2 somewhere towards the middle of the game.

Just play the game and keep that theory in your mind when you read/see stuff.  It starts to become very convincing especially when you take into account the first games events.

Ah, I see. Thanks for the info.

[NKKKK]

Reaper drones, human sized killing machines.



Otherwise moar blue suns lol...(bioware we arent serious about the mercenaries btw, dont put more mercenaries pls)

[Jzadek72]

D4rk50ul808 wrote...

After reading an e-mail from Mordin about the Keepers, I've got a bit of a different theory on the entire thing.

He says the Keepers were engineered with the same technology as the Reapers were, by an unknown race. What if the Reapers are simply a fleet of ships with advanced AI's built by a race to help them return to existance.

This race seems to be looking for a particular DNA structure as it conquers worlds. On the Collector ship you see that they were looking for similarities between Prothean and Human DNA.

Ever since the very first mission in ME1 you come across Husks which were stripped of all living tissue and left lifeless. What if the consciouses of this race are trapped in a virtual world or something we don't understand, and they are trying to create new bodies to inhabit. It would explain the end boss of ME2 as well, trying to join their technology with Human DNA to create a new host body. Harbinger says multiple times throughout the game that "We are the beginning, You are the end.".  What if Shepard himself holds the key to the DNA structure that they require, which is why they are targeting him specifically.  Liara even says the Shadow Broker arranged to get Shepards body, I've been under the impression for a long time that the Shadow Broker was on the Reaper side of things.

I bet the final game will have this race revealed to us, and also the reason for its victory in the past. It seems the Protheans took the "Renegade" approach by removing from power the other races and becoming the dominate species. In doing that they may have sealed their fate by not having enough power to overcome the invasion and leading to them being converted into the Collectors. So if you go Paragon you will have the allies you need to overcome the odds and strike this new enemy down. If you go Renegade you will have to do it alone, with no support of the other races.

Edit: Even more to back this up.  All the technology in the universe seems to be from the same race at the pinnacle of its existance.  Everyone assumes somehow that the Reapers just made themselves.  Machines are machines, they were manufacturered at some point by someone.  It was probably the most advanced race at the time, so what better reason to create these "Reapers" than self preservation.  Immortality is the dream of all species that are aware that they will eventually die.

Sorry that was so long, but if you keep that in mind as you sift through the information in both games you might be surprised how much backs the theory. It would also explain Harbinger being able to briefly inhabit a body of a Prothean, only having to leave because it still isn't a perfect match.  If only I could figure out how they keep their spirit whole (Drell maybe?) without having a body to inhabit.

Damn you and your clever theory! You may have just ruined ME3 for us!

Seriously, it sounds very plausible. The shadow broker could be one of that race as well, which would explained why s/he doesn't want to be seen. Everything fits! Kudos to you.

[DuffyMJ]

go go go

enemies are everywhere!

go go go

[slyguy07]

Think about this. The reapers have at the very least done this for what? 50 million years or so? I am sure they have shock troops they can possess stored somewhere. Pawns such as organic races wouldn't have to be rebuilt - they are replenished by the next cycle.

[MassEffect762]

ALOT of husks with Reapers in smaller varied forms as bosses.

[Maj.Pain007]

Gill Kaiser wrote...

I still think the Raloi might be indoctrinated in one fell swoop. Then we find out that they're telepathic aliens with adamantium claws.

Yeah not much is known about the Raloi.

[Maj.Pain007]

stupid forums.....

Modifié par Maj.Pain007, 17 février 2010 - 12:30 .