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It just occured to me, who would be the main enemy in combat in Mass Effect 3?


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Security mechs. It's satisfying how their limbs blow off in a storm of sparks, and they make cool robotic noises as they die.


and they crawl up and whisper "excuse me" and blow up in your face.

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Husks, indoctrinated Citadel space races, smaller shock trooper reapers (sub-bosses and bosses only, likely).



I'm guessing ME3 will be very much "everything has gone to hell" after a certain point.

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My guess would be that an important cast member is indoctrinated, and you are primarily up against Reaper ships that you have to infiltrate.

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Clearly there will be lots of control being assumed.

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Reaper foot soldiers or something would be neat. Just make sure they all don't look the same. A little variety please.

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Reaper foot soldiers or something would be neat. Just make sure they all don't look the same. A little variety please.

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Maybe old comrades will be indoctrinated assuming they survived. That would be pretty dark having to fight characters most people grew to like over the first two games.

The main enemies will probably be husks, but I'm sure the Reepers have something up their sleeves. Maybe a species yet to be revealed.

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Jzadek72 wrote...

D4rk50ul808 wrote...

After reading an e-mail from Mordin about the Keepers, I've got a bit of a different theory on the entire thing.

He says the Keepers were engineered with the same technology as the Reapers were, by an unknown race. What if the Reapers are simply a fleet of ships with advanced AI's built by a race to help them return to existance.

This race seems to be looking for a particular DNA structure as it conquers worlds. On the Collector ship you see that they were looking for similarities between Prothean and Human DNA.

Ever since the very first mission in ME1 you come across Husks which were stripped of all living tissue and left lifeless. What if the consciouses of this race are trapped in a virtual world or something we don't understand, and they are trying to create new bodies to inhabit. It would explain the end boss of ME2 as well, trying to join their technology with Human DNA to create a new host body. Harbinger says multiple times throughout the game that "We are the beginning, You are the end.".  What if Shepard himself holds the key to the DNA structure that they require, which is why they are targeting him specifically.  Liara even says the Shadow Broker arranged to get Shepards body, I've been under the impression for a long time that the Shadow Broker was on the Reaper side of things.

I bet the final game will have this race revealed to us, and also the reason for its victory in the past. It seems the Protheans took the "Renegade" approach by removing from power the other races and becoming the dominate species. In doing that they may have sealed their fate by not having enough power to overcome the invasion and leading to them being converted into the Collectors. So if you go Paragon you will have the allies you need to overcome the odds and strike this new enemy down. If you go Renegade you will have to do it alone, with no support of the other races.

Edit: Even more to back this up.  All the technology in the universe seems to be from the same race at the pinnacle of its existance.  Everyone assumes somehow that the Reapers just made themselves.  Machines are machines, they were manufacturered at some point by someone.  It was probably the most advanced race at the time, so what better reason to create these "Reapers" than self preservation.  Immortality is the dream of all species that are aware that they will eventually die.

Sorry that was so long, but if you keep that in mind as you sift through the information in both games you might be surprised how much backs the theory. It would also explain Harbinger being able to briefly inhabit a body of a Prothean, only having to leave because it still isn't a perfect match.  If only I could figure out how they keep their spirit whole (Drell maybe?) without having a body to inhabit.


Damn you and your clever theory! You may have just ruined ME3 for us!

Seriously, it sounds very plausible. The shadow broker could be one of that race as well, which would explained why s/he doesn't want to be seen. Everything fits! Kudos to you.

awesome theory dude

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Furlings! :o

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davidt0504 wrote...

Jzadek72 wrote...

D4rk50ul808 wrote...

After reading an e-mail from Mordin about the Keepers, I've got a bit of a different theory on the entire thing.

He says the Keepers were engineered with the same technology as the Reapers were, by an unknown race. What if the Reapers are simply a fleet of ships with advanced AI's built by a race to help them return to existance.

This race seems to be looking for a particular DNA structure as it conquers worlds. On the Collector ship you see that they were looking for similarities between Prothean and Human DNA.

Ever since the very first mission in ME1 you come across Husks which were stripped of all living tissue and left lifeless. What if the consciouses of this race are trapped in a virtual world or something we don't understand, and they are trying to create new bodies to inhabit. It would explain the end boss of ME2 as well, trying to join their technology with Human DNA to create a new host body. Harbinger says multiple times throughout the game that "We are the beginning, You are the end.".  What if Shepard himself holds the key to the DNA structure that they require, which is why they are targeting him specifically.  Liara even says the Shadow Broker arranged to get Shepards body, I've been under the impression for a long time that the Shadow Broker was on the Reaper side of things.

I bet the final game will have this race revealed to us, and also the reason for its victory in the past. It seems the Protheans took the "Renegade" approach by removing from power the other races and becoming the dominate species. In doing that they may have sealed their fate by not having enough power to overcome the invasion and leading to them being converted into the Collectors. So if you go Paragon you will have the allies you need to overcome the odds and strike this new enemy down. If you go Renegade you will have to do it alone, with no support of the other races.

Edit: Even more to back this up.  All the technology in the universe seems to be from the same race at the pinnacle of its existance.  Everyone assumes somehow that the Reapers just made themselves.  Machines are machines, they were manufacturered at some point by someone.  It was probably the most advanced race at the time, so what better reason to create these "Reapers" than self preservation.  Immortality is the dream of all species that are aware that they will eventually die.

Sorry that was so long, but if you keep that in mind as you sift through the information in both games you might be surprised how much backs the theory. It would also explain Harbinger being able to briefly inhabit a body of a Prothean, only having to leave because it still isn't a perfect match.  If only I could figure out how they keep their spirit whole (Drell maybe?) without having a body to inhabit.


Damn you and your clever theory! You may have just ruined ME3 for us!

Seriously, it sounds very plausible. The shadow broker could be one of that race as well, which would explained why s/he doesn't want to be seen. Everything fits! Kudos to you.

awesome theory dude


One problem. Mordin said that the COLLECTORS were made with the same technology as the Keepers, by the Reapers.
And even if we are talking about different conversations with Mordin, of course the Keepers would be made from similar technology to the reapers, they were made by the Reapers.

Modifié par ERJAK2, 17 février 2010 - 01:58 .


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Tooneyman wrote...

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No because if your remember correctly. Its either EDI/joker who tells you there is a ship attached to the collector base, which if you pay attention to the screen shot is actually a reaper. It was hard to see, but I watch the video over and over a lot. Image IPB


Can you provide a link and time slot on YouTube?


I could try to prove it. I will look into this issue a little deeper, but I'm not the only one who has seen this. I got this information off another gamer and then went a played the game again and little to the dialogue. I also played replayed the final mission to many times.
From what I got from the final mission was a extra reaper was set free from the collectors ship and I have a feeling the final battle will be them trying to destroy the citadel one more time.
I'm not going to lie. I would destroy the citadel just so the stupid reapers couldn't come back from dark space period. The citadel was how they where going to invade in the first game. I don't know but I see them trying again.


Harbinger was controlling the Collector General from dark space. You see him as a hologram when he releases control, and then in the final cutscene you see him with the rest of the rReaper fleet in dark space. He was not physically present at the Collector Base.

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ERJAK2 wrote...

davidt0504 wrote...

Jzadek72 wrote...

D4rk50ul808 wrote...

After reading an e-mail from Mordin about the Keepers, I've got a bit of a different theory on the entire thing.

He says the Keepers were engineered with the same technology as the Reapers were, by an unknown race. What if the Reapers are simply a fleet of ships with advanced AI's built by a race to help them return to existance.

This race seems to be looking for a particular DNA structure as it conquers worlds. On the Collector ship you see that they were looking for similarities between Prothean and Human DNA.

Ever since the very first mission in ME1 you come across Husks which were stripped of all living tissue and left lifeless. What if the consciouses of this race are trapped in a virtual world or something we don't understand, and they are trying to create new bodies to inhabit. It would explain the end boss of ME2 as well, trying to join their technology with Human DNA to create a new host body. Harbinger says multiple times throughout the game that "We are the beginning, You are the end.".  What if Shepard himself holds the key to the DNA structure that they require, which is why they are targeting him specifically.  Liara even says the Shadow Broker arranged to get Shepards body, I've been under the impression for a long time that the Shadow Broker was on the Reaper side of things.

I bet the final game will have this race revealed to us, and also the reason for its victory in the past. It seems the Protheans took the "Renegade" approach by removing from power the other races and becoming the dominate species. In doing that they may have sealed their fate by not having enough power to overcome the invasion and leading to them being converted into the Collectors. So if you go Paragon you will have the allies you need to overcome the odds and strike this new enemy down. If you go Renegade you will have to do it alone, with no support of the other races.

Edit: Even more to back this up.  All the technology in the universe seems to be from the same race at the pinnacle of its existance.  Everyone assumes somehow that the Reapers just made themselves.  Machines are machines, they were manufacturered at some point by someone.  It was probably the most advanced race at the time, so what better reason to create these "Reapers" than self preservation.  Immortality is the dream of all species that are aware that they will eventually die.

Sorry that was so long, but if you keep that in mind as you sift through the information in both games you might be surprised how much backs the theory. It would also explain Harbinger being able to briefly inhabit a body of a Prothean, only having to leave because it still isn't a perfect match.  If only I could figure out how they keep their spirit whole (Drell maybe?) without having a body to inhabit.


Damn you and your clever theory! You may have just ruined ME3 for us!

Seriously, it sounds very plausible. The shadow broker could be one of that race as well, which would explained why s/he doesn't want to be seen. Everything fits! Kudos to you.

awesome theory dude


One problem. Mordin said that the COLLECTORS were made with the same technology as the Keepers, by the Reapers.
And even if we are talking about different conversations with Mordin, of course the Keepers would be made from similar technology to the reapers, they were made by the Reapers.


It looks like D4rk50ul808 didn't get the joke regarding Mordin's email. The point was that he had discovered all the galaxy-shattering revelations that Shepard already knew from ME1, about 2 years too late. He found out that the Keepers were genetically designed, that they were meant to respond to a signal periodically, and the last time they did was when the Protheans vanished. All these are unbelievable revelations, but Shepard found them all out from Vigil.

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ME1: Reapers leading Saren and Geth

ME2: Reapers leading Collecters and Geth

ME3: Depends what happened in ME2

It really isn't set in stone, you could have avoided Legion all together so Geth could still

be a threat. Although, I think that husks and other indoctrinated beings will probably be in the mix.

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I think D4rk50ul808 might still be on to something. Regardless of Mordin's email, it seems apparent that the Reapers were using the collectors to look for specific genetic traits. Since the reapers seemingly spend most of their time in dark space, there must have been some civilization which built all the relays. The reapers themselves have little use for them now other than creating a dependency on their tech to isolate systems.



Perhaps this race somehow found a way to contain consciousness and prolong their existence, preserving the countless minds of their people inside of the reapers, looking for new genetic material to prolong their existence until they can find an appropriate host form. Perhaps they became trapped in the form of reapers when their original form went extinct and they've been searching for an appropriate form for their individual consciousness to possess. Sovereign does say that they are each a nation, but independent. So they may be like the geth in a sense that they are a collective consciousness, but they don't need to be in aggregate to possess intelligence. Each mind is its own, but they are one in the reaper. This would sort of explain indoctrination. The presence of so many consciousnesses may bear down on those near by, like a faint whisper that can't really be heard. Also could explain husks as early attempts to make humans vessels for individual minds, but the process is imperfect and instead it creates a screaming husk.



Two things are clear about the reapers' motives:

1. Mind control/influence/indoctrination is a big part of their MO

2. They believe they are somehow providing salvation through destruction.



Maybe the reapers are going to make a sort of genetic frankenstein from the collectors, humans, and some bits of other races and some cybernetics. Some form of "perfect existence" which their minds could individually possess and fight as ground troops. Like husks, but ones that think and use more weapons + biotics.

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Our enemies will depend on our choices, through the 2 first chapters.

Plain and simple.

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The Citadel Council.

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Why do I have this weird feeling that ME3 might begin with a horde of Husks charging towards your squad? Like Gears of War, Mad Moxxi in Borderlands, or even Serious Sam?

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The geth all want to merge their conciousness into a giant ship, right? Maybe we'll fight Unicron.

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If I had to guess I would say Cerberus as well as the Citedal races and Allience will be your enemy. So that Shepard will be isolated when he fights the reapers.

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Saren strikes back !

Mass Effect 1 was merely a set back !

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indoctrinated space hamsters

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a horde of clones of the turian councilor



"ah yes, Commander Shepard, you die now"

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You will end up fighting the entire Reaper fleet by piloting a epicly giant robot (roughly 10 million lightyears tall) powered by sheer badass which can throw galaxies like Shurikens at targets as one of its primary methods of attack.

You get a significant boost to your power gauge from having Zaeed, Jack, Grunt, and/or Wrex alive and on your team.

You also get a boost to your power gauge if this is playing in the background.

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A whole bunch of indoctrinated races WITH husks.
Also, Turian council members.
And Cerberus. You really believed Miranda when she said you didn't have a control chip in your head?


Doesn't really matter. Shepard is so badass that the control ship will fry. :bandit:

I hope for fighting reapers. Seriously , what are reapers compared to Shepard's might anyway? :lol: