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[Obadiah]

Gill Kaiser wrote...
Harbinger was controlling the Collector General from dark space. You see him as a hologram when he releases control, and then in the final cutscene you see him with the rest of the rReaper fleet in dark space. He was not physically present at the Collector Base.

Guess Harbinger had one of those quantum entaglement communication devices.

[Rieverre]

Depends on choices from ME1 and 2, but I could easily see the enemies of the first 'half' of the game being splinter factions of the Quarians and Geth (definitely if you blew up the base, less probable if you rewrote the heretics), Council forces thinking Shepard has gone dangerously rogue, Shadow Broker's collection of hired guns and assassins (regardless of whether or not he's a Reaper agent, this will probably happen during Liara's recruitment storyline). If you gave TIM the finger, Cerberus operators could very well be trying to take you out of the picture should he decide you're more trouble than you're worth. If you didn't, Alliance/Council higher ups may want to outright send wetworks teams after you.



And that's before we get to the meat of the sandwich, that being the Reapers. I can imagine they'd have some form of combat remote that they could spam in great number for ground missions, and I do hope that the fight against them isn't just one single final battle.



I've said it before, I'll say it again ... I want a succession of missions that actually lets you feel that there's an actual _war_ going on.

[Obadiah]

I'm hoping for some more freaky nebulous out-of-the-box concept thinking that was in the first game.



Something like: The Reapers think humanity is too much trouble to deal with, and so will travel at FTL speeds for 10000 years to get into the galaxy rather than use the usual plan. Meanwhile, their agents will attempt to undermine humanity by destroying earth's sun or instigating some all out galactic civil war, and it's up the Shep to either destroy/subjugate the loser or make peace.

[Nizzemancer]

RayneMoon wrote...

ME1: Reapers leading Saren and Geth
ME2: Reapers leading Collecters and Geth
ME3: Depends what happened in ME2
It really isn't set in stone, you could have avoided Legion all together so Geth could still
be a threat. Although, I think that husks and other indoctrinated beings will probably be in the mix.

How many geth did you fight besides the ones on the quarrian ship Tali's father died on? None.

Regardless of your choices the heretic geth aren't a threat to anyone in ME3.

[yummysoap]

I didn't read the thread because I'm a douche, so I don't know if anyone has said this (they probably have) but I get the feeling the Reapers may have found a way to make Husks less like zombies and more like actual useful infantry units by the third one.



Just a guess, but I wouldn't mind seeing some actual clever husks in the next installment.

[davidt0504]

yummysoap wrote...

I didn't read the thread because I'm a douche, so I don't know if anyone has said this (they probably have) but I get the feeling the Reapers may have found a way to make Husks less like zombies and more like actual useful infantry units by the third one.

Just a guess, but I wouldn't mind seeing some actual clever husks in the next installment.

haha its funny, i pretty much said the exact same thing, not just about the husks being advanced but about not reading the thread

[davidt0504]

Nizzemancer wrote...

RayneMoon wrote...

ME1: Reapers leading Saren and Geth
ME2: Reapers leading Collecters and Geth
ME3: Depends what happened in ME2
It really isn't set in stone, you could have avoided Legion all together so Geth could still
be a threat. Although, I think that husks and other indoctrinated beings will probably be in the mix.

How many geth did you fight besides the ones on the quarrian ship Tali's father died on? None.

Regardless of your choices the heretic geth aren't a threat to anyone in ME3.

um lots, on haelstrom and a couple of side missions

[Nizzemancer]

davidt0504 wrote...

Nizzemancer wrote...

RayneMoon wrote...

ME1: Reapers leading Saren and Geth
ME2: Reapers leading Collecters and Geth
ME3: Depends what happened in ME2
It really isn't set in stone, you could have avoided Legion all together so Geth could still
be a threat. Although, I think that husks and other indoctrinated beings will probably be in the mix.

How many geth did you fight besides the ones on the quarrian ship Tali's father died on? None.

Regardless of your choices the heretic geth aren't a threat to anyone in ME3.

um lots, on haelstrom and a couple of side missions

The story-missions was practicly void of any geth except on Tali's loyalty mission...Anderson says the geth are nothing but random skirmishes and you fight malfunctioning security-mechs not geth. The heretic geth were not a main antagonist in ME2...

[KShafe777]

here's a strange thought... is TIM tied in with the reapers somehow like Saren was and like the Collectors were... what if he's one of the real enemies in this....

just a thought

[Kaiser Shepard]

KShafe777 wrote...

here's a strange thought... is TIM tied in with the reapers somehow like Saren was and like the Collectors were... what if he's one of the real enemies in this....

just a thought

So TIM, who apparently works for the Reapers, resurrects Shepard to battle the Collectors, which work for the Reapers, and eventually the Reapers themselves. Oh, did I mention he prevented the Shadow Broker from selling your body from the Collectors/Reapers?

Makes perfect sense to me.

Modifié par Kaiser Shepard, 18 février 2010 - 12:26 .

[KShafe777]

think about it.. the reapers do this cyclically.. they take the current civilizations to the brink of their technology, then destroy all, after collecting their technology... if they continue doing this, they just ensure that they always have ALL the tech... like i said, just a thought... go back to Mass Effect 1 when they are explaining the reapers.

[IceColdFulcrum]

Can we please, please fight wave after wave of Clone Citadel Council members, each saying that there are no Reapers while the Reaper fleets decimate their homeworlds?

[Bergybud]

Nizzemancer wrote...

davidt0504 wrote...

Nizzemancer wrote...

RayneMoon wrote...

ME1: Reapers leading Saren and Geth
ME2: Reapers leading Collecters and Geth
ME3: Depends what happened in ME2
It really isn't set in stone, you could have avoided Legion all together so Geth could still
be a threat. Although, I think that husks and other indoctrinated beings will probably be in the mix.

How many geth did you fight besides the ones on the quarrian ship Tali's father died on? None.

Regardless of your choices the heretic geth aren't a threat to anyone in ME3.

um lots, on haelstrom and a couple of side missions

The story-missions was practicly void of any geth except on Tali's loyalty mission...Anderson says the geth are nothing but random skirmishes and you fight malfunctioning security-mechs not geth. The heretic geth were not a main antagonist in ME2...

There is a side mission on a planet that is cloudy and you have to follow beams of light that is a geth bastion of strength. So yes there are more than Haestrom and Tali's loyalty mission.

[IronVanguard]

Reapers.



The new main character with be Joker, and it's a Space Combat/Flight game.

[Thesuperdevil]

I personally hope Paragons will have to kill the offspring of the Rachni Queen they saved, and eventually the Queen herself.



Aside from that, I'd expect standard indoctrinated infantry and shock troopers, comprised of the various races of the galaxy...and Husks. Lots of Husks.

[binaryemperor]

An entire planet made of husks.

[FataliTensei]

Rieverre wrote...

Depends on choices from ME1 and 2, but I could easily see the enemies of the first 'half' of the game being splinter factions of the Quarians and Geth (definitely if you blew up the base, less probable if you rewrote the heretics), Council forces thinking Shepard has gone dangerously rogue, Shadow Broker's collection of hired guns and assassins (regardless of whether or not he's a Reaper agent, this will probably happen during Liara's recruitment storyline). If you gave TIM the finger, Cerberus operators could very well be trying to take you out of the picture should he decide you're more trouble than you're worth. If you didn't, Alliance/Council higher ups may want to outright send wetworks teams after you.

And that's before we get to the meat of the sandwich, that being the Reapers. I can imagine they'd have some form of combat remote that they could spam in great number for ground missions, and I do hope that the fight against them isn't just one single final battle.

I've said it before, I'll say it again ... I want a succession of missions that actually lets you feel that there's an actual _war_ going on.

I agree wholeheartedly with this

[CROAT_56]

the Vorcha would be a good enemy but make them super Vorcha cause they were pretty easy kills in ME2 armer might help

[Zulu_DFA]

After dealing with a billion of husks and indoctrinated mercs, you, Joker and Legion will mount Alliance Fighters and deliver a couple of disruptor torpedos to Mr. Harbinger's rear ventilation shaft.

Modifié par Zulu_DFA, 23 février 2010 - 12:28 .

[GuardianAngel470]

OfTheFaintSmile wrote...

How can an entire race be indoctrinated? Usually its just specific individuals?

Not true.  If you saved the Rachni queen she tells you through an Asari on Illium that the Rachni's songs had been sullied, essentially they had been indoctrinated into attacking the citadel species.

[GuardianAngel470]

Bergybud wrote...

Nizzemancer wrote...

davidt0504 wrote...

Nizzemancer wrote...

RayneMoon wrote...

ME1: Reapers leading Saren and Geth
ME2: Reapers leading Collecters and Geth
ME3: Depends what happened in ME2
It really isn't set in stone, you could have avoided Legion all together so Geth could still
be a threat. Although, I think that husks and other indoctrinated beings will probably be in the mix.

How many geth did you fight besides the ones on the quarrian ship Tali's father died on? None.

Regardless of your choices the heretic geth aren't a threat to anyone in ME3.

um lots, on haelstrom and a couple of side missions

The story-missions was practicly void of any geth except on Tali's loyalty mission...Anderson says the geth are nothing but random skirmishes and you fight malfunctioning security-mechs not geth. The heretic geth were not a main antagonist in ME2...

There is a side mission on a planet that is cloudy and you have to follow beams of light that is a geth bastion of strength. So yes there are more than Haestrom and Tali's loyalty mission.

There's also a crashing ship that has been boarded by geth.  I still don't know where that sidequest comes from, but it shows up on the galaxy map.

[minarri]

I don't mind what the main horde is going to be so long as I have the ability to knock Cerberus into last week.

[Cascadus]

If it's Husks than I hope to DEAR LORD that they'll manage to fix the most broken enemy in the game for ME3.

[Hejhej1234]

D4rk50ul808 wrote...

After reading an e-mail from Mordin about the Keepers, I've got a bit of a different theory on the entire thing.

He says the Keepers were engineered with the same technology as the Reapers were, by an unknown race. What if the Reapers are simply a fleet of ships with advanced AI's built by a race to help them return to existance.

This race seems to be looking for a particular DNA structure as it conquers worlds. On the Collector ship you see that they were looking for similarities between Prothean and Human DNA.

Ever since the very first mission in ME1 you come across Husks which were stripped of all living tissue and left lifeless. What if the consciouses of this race are trapped in a virtual world or something we don't understand, and they are trying to create new bodies to inhabit. It would explain the end boss of ME2 as well, trying to join their technology with Human DNA to create a new host body. Harbinger says multiple times throughout the game that "We are the beginning, You are the end.".  What if Shepard himself holds the key to the DNA structure that they require, which is why they are targeting him specifically.  Liara even says the Shadow Broker arranged to get Shepards body, I've been under the impression for a long time that the Shadow Broker was on the Reaper side of things.

I bet the final game will have this race revealed to us, and also the reason for its victory in the past. It seems the Protheans took the "Renegade" approach by removing from power the other races and becoming the dominate species. In doing that they may have sealed their fate by not having enough power to overcome the invasion and leading to them being converted into the Collectors. So if you go Paragon you will have the allies you need to overcome the odds and strike this new enemy down. If you go Renegade you will have to do it alone, with no support of the other races.

Edit: Even more to back this up.  All the technology in the universe seems to be from the same race at the pinnacle of its existance.  Everyone assumes somehow that the Reapers just made themselves.  Machines are machines, they were manufacturered at some point by someone.  It was probably the most advanced race at the time, so what better reason to create these "Reapers" than self preservation.  Immortality is the dream of all species that are aware that they will eventually die.

Sorry that was so long, but if you keep that in mind as you sift through the information in both games you might be surprised how much backs the theory. It would also explain Harbinger being able to briefly inhabit a body of a Prothean, only having to leave because it still isn't a perfect match.  If only I could figure out how they keep their spirit whole (Drell maybe?) without having a body to inhabit.

An intersting theory. According to Arthur C Clarke the highest levels of evolutions is trancending past the material plane and becoming spirits sortof.
 
Organics -> cyborgs -> robots -> boundless form

Still pondering for a reason for them to "come back" though. And a boundless race this advanced no doubt could do this on their own in a much less troublesome way...

As for a mechanic race building themselves, it's not impossible, just a slow process. Today we try to make cameras to replace lost eyes or simply to enhance vision. Same for limbs. Humans are slowly entering the cyborg-stage of evolution.
The final stage is converting your brain into software. That basically turns us immortal. If you die, just boot yourself up in another platform.
It's all part of a slow process. I believe the reapers were once organic just like every other race.

Modifié par Hejhej1234, 23 février 2010 - 02:18 .

[Vaenier]

Intelligent Husks that know how to use guns and not just run up to you in a suicide attack.