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[DWSmiley]

I like to think that Owen's daughter, eventually "rescued" by the cleaning staff, marries the handsome young man who takes over the store and gives Owen several posthumous grandkids.

[Eudaemonium]

Well, if that isn't a nice way to rationalise one's selfish meta-gaming.

[JosieJ]

errant_knight wrote...

Wow. I can't believe that so many would lead an old man to suicide just to pick a weapon off his corpse. Thats...harsh.

But how does your character know that Owen'll commit suicide?  It's definitely metagaming on the player's part, but to your character, not so much.  And (continuing the metagaming) if you don't even enter the room Valena can be found in, your PC isn't even lying when s/he tells Owen that s/he hasn't seen his daughter.

A couple (alas, not all) of my past archer PCs have done this and all of my future archer PCs will do this.  The bow's that good.  And I've never been averse to letting a little metagaming creep into my playthroughs!

[Axekix]

Wow, I never even knew this bow existed... this straight blows Marjolaine's away. Shame I just finished Redcliffe on my current playthrough :/

I'm actually considering reloading just to snag this for Leli.

Modifié par Axekix, 19 février 2010 - 11:46 .

[jsachun]

Okay So I decided to get it.



The 10+ crit damage is worth it even for a warrior. I was only getting around 150 to 250 for Arrow of Slaying. Look at what I got with Far Song just at Level 12.

Modifié par jsachun, 20 février 2010 - 10:57 .

[jsachun]

Wondering Now, what armor I should wear for Sacred Ashes & Brecillian Forest as I'd normally wear the Armor Delligence set, which has even a higher armor rating than the Wade's Full plate Set. Any suggestion?

[Astranagant]

Zy-El wrote...

You guys are heartless - you and Morrigan should be real happy together - right up til she stabs you in the eye!

Except that she'll never stab you anywhere.

[jsachun]

Massive Armor Slows down archer. So I had to settle for Wade's Superior Dragon Scale Chain Mail Set. Gee, It would've been better if I had both Armor of Deligence & Far Song. Anyway My Build at Level 19. Check out the Arrow of Slaying damage.






Far Song is WORTH it for all you heavy hitters out there.

Modifié par jsachun, 22 février 2010 - 10:58 .

[kumanur]

errant_knight wrote...

Wow. I can't believe that so many would lead an old man to suicide just to pick a weapon off his corpse. Thats...harsh.

I don't think it's a matter of being harsh, my take on it is this...

I've beaten the game twice but i've got several different active playthrough's going on, let's say 10, at least 8 out of 10 of these play through's have been played through with a heavy Moral guidline, making the choices i believe i would make in that situation, after awhile i've got several characters who are great people but i've pretty much seen all the things that being anice guy or girl can get you.

So then you just want to explore the other side of the game to see what happens and what becomes available.

Would i IRL do that to Owen? Good Lord no, i'm too nice a guy to do that, but if i was in Dragon Age IRL i probably would have been cut down by a Darkspawn nice guy or not lol

[jsachun]

Arthur Cousland wrote...

Is your archer a warrior or rogue?

Playing as warrior.

[Taigatrommel]

I got a question about the smithy. Currently I am on my 2nd playthrough and just decided to kill him. No I kept playing, already finished circle tower, but the new smithy hasn't appeared yet.

As in my 1st playthrough, I refused to help the villagers against the creatures during the first night, I left and came back, continuing my quest. Do I have to help Redcliffe in order to get a new smithy?



I hope not, my motivation to go through the whole circle tower thing again just demotivates me. If you would have to accept and offer help to Redcliffe villagers, is there any modification which lets some other vendor sell the bow?

[Lemonspeed]

i like mine...







double song of courage is fun.

[errant_knight]

kumanur wrote...

errant_knight wrote...

Wow. I can't believe that so many would lead an old man to suicide just to pick a weapon off his corpse. Thats...harsh.

I don't think it's a matter of being harsh, my take on it is this...

I've beaten the game twice but i've got several different active playthrough's going on, let's say 10, at least 8 out of 10 of these play through's have been played through with a heavy Moral guidline, making the choices i believe i would make in that situation, after awhile i've got several characters who are great people but i've pretty much seen all the things that being anice guy or girl can get you.

So then you just want to explore the other side of the game to see what happens and what becomes available.

Would i IRL do that to Owen? Good Lord no, i'm too nice a guy to do that, but if i was in Dragon Age IRL i probably would have been cut down by a Darkspawn nice guy or not lol

Heh, point taken. In that case, I'll just note that if you don't rescue his daughter, you can't get the boots of diligence, and it's rather nice armor.

[jsachun]

So this is what I ended up with.





I was hoping to do 1000+, but it'll just have to wait for DA:A & maybe even a better bow than Farsong

Anyone know the record for the greatest hit?

[scrappydoo555]

I am shocked, I've played this game so much I've reached the limit of chracters, and completed it 9 times and I never knew about this bow. My first 2 playthroughs I was convinced she never existed because I never found her and I still never thought there was more to it.



I love how I'm still discovering new items and conversations even after so many playthroughs.

[soteria]

Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't understand the rave about huge Arrow of Slaying crits. I guess 800+ damage is "cool," but if you did half that you'd still probably kill any white/normal enemy out there, and the damage is drastically reduced against elites and bosses. I just don't see what's so great about huge amounts of overkill when it does the most damage when you need it least.



Unless maybe you're hitting for 250+ against bosses or something?

[Lemonspeed]

people like seeing big numbers... one of these days i'm gonna spend an hour or so reload/shooting those level 0 mobs during the final battle just to see how high i can get it.



but otherwise, yea, i agree, AoS is pretty sad against anything of consequence. against most bosses, it barely does more than a regular crit.

[Kastagir]

I thought archery was broken, then I got hit for 151 points by the Genlock Forgemaster. Now after seeing these numbers I'm thinking archery can be rather fun. Even if AoS is not fully effective against bosses/elites, it is still a wonderful way to drop enemy mages in a hurry.

[Random70]

Lemonspeed wrote...

people like seeing big numbers... one of these days i'm gonna spend an hour or so reload/shooting those level 0 mobs during the final battle just to see how high i can get it.

but otherwise, yea, i agree, AoS is pretty sad against anything of consequence. against most bosses, it barely does more than a regular crit.

If you want big damage numbers, you don't have to kill off poor old Owen - Just use Mana Clash!

Modifié par Random70, 02 mars 2010 - 07:20 .

[jsachun]

soteria wrote...

Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't understand the rave about huge Arrow of Slaying crits. I guess 800+ damage is "cool," but if you did half that you'd still probably kill any white/normal enemy out there, and the damage is drastically reduced against elites and bosses. I just don't see what's so great about huge amounts of overkill when it does the most damage when you need it least.

Unless maybe you're hitting for 250+ against bosses or something?

Between 250 to 400 on Highly Armored or Elite Bosses. Best against lightly armored opponents, but keep in mind they have to have decent health points to be able to get high AOS score.

Modifié par jsachun, 02 mars 2010 - 08:34 .

[SOLID_EVEREST]

I had no idea, and here I thought I've done it all. I didn't even know about Gaxkang Fade Wall, this bow, or even the Warden Tower's Shield.

[jsachun]

Not bad for a cunning build either.





Warriors still outdamage Rogues.

[jsachun]

Latest AOS damage with cunning Rogue.



Perhaps armor penetration of Cunning Builds do make the difference.

[Elhanan]

If you need the bow, overlook his daughter. If you prefer the rune Owen sells, then introduce yourself to her on your next visit.