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[Godak]

Thanks to everyone who took my comment out of context, and completely disregarded the rest of my post. No, really, I appreciate it.



Let's try this again.



Think about it. In JRPGs and CRPGs, all you're doing is going through a script. CRPGs may offer some choice as to what way the script will go, but you still have no real affect on the story. It's all somebody else's adventure, and you're just going through the motions.

[Baracuda6977]

that made me depressed because it splits all gaming into scripted and MMOs

[Valente11]

I've always thought that the need to classify a game into a certain genre will always generate prejudic either for or against it. Borderlands, for example, gets a lot of hate from the 'hardcore' rpg crowd, simply because it has that little tag on it says "action-rpg". What if it didn't have that tag? It would be the same great game, without the baggage of having to conform to a certain genre. You see it a lot with action style games claiming to be rpgs, but the truth is that none of us have any right to decide what is or isn't an rpg.



I like rpgs, love them even. But I will not automatically buy anything just because it calls itself any rpg. Instead I look at the game, the features, the concept, story, gameplay etc. The title 'rpg' should always be thought of as a guidline rather than a rulebook, As if to say"hey, this game is kinda leaning towards this type of play" not "hey, this is an rpg so it better have stats, complete focus on story, leveling, complexity etc..." Pokemon, Oblivion, Kingdom Hearts, Diablo, Mass Effect, Baldur's Gate are all considered rpgs and are all massively different. I dunno, it just seems kind of like a paradox to define 'rpg.' Instead look at good games, and bad games. Games that interest me, games that don't. I could say I hate shooters, but that kind of prejudice would only alienate me to the possibility that I could find a shooter that I love, that fits my taste, simply because of the genre it's in.

[Valente11]

Vaeliorin wrote...

Godak wrote...

Doug84 wrote...
The way I see it, if you, the player, don't have any impact on the story to any degree, its not an RPG - its an adventure game (and I don't mean to imply anything to do with gameplay styles nor combat style - I mean from the strict POV a story being told that you follow without influencing events within the story).

Are you not playing the role of the hero? Do you need to make choices to play a role?

Yes.  Otherwise you're watching someone else play the role.  Every game ever made wherein there is a character of some sort that you control would be a role-playing game if making decisions for your character didn't matter.

I bet there are a million+ japanse gamers that strongly disagree with you. Probably just as many western gamers actually(including me). With this theory you wold have to account fo hundreds if not thousands of games released from the late 80's to today that are considered rpgs Some of which have even been thought to have defined the genre. These games do not fit into your strange description.