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[Malfurus]

I'm sure this question has been asked before...the choices we made when whoever became king/queen at the end of the game, will they be reflected in Awakening?

I told Allistar to make the Circle free of the chantry and I would like to see that transformation and its effects in the expansion so I don't feel like my choices were pretty much useless and pointless. Or when I asked for my own land and gold for my Human noble, will I get to have a personal Estate with a bunch of gold when I start the game? (And the Warden's Keep in Aramanthine does not count for "personal" because you get that either way) 

If someone knows the answer to this question, help me out.  

[Nerdage]

I get the impression that the only decision that really matters from origins to awakenings is what happens to alistair. I heard that human noble characters get some different reactions from npcs, so maybe the same is true for some of the choices you make, but I'm not sure about that.

[Bryy_Miller]

I'm sure they all do, much like with Mass Effect. Otherwise, what would be the point?

[Maria Caliban]

Some of them do. Keep in mind though that this is an expanion. It's much shorter than the original game and takes place in a single location.

For example, a city elf might ask for more rights for the elves. Well, this happens only a month or so after Origin finishes. You're not going to see any changes at this point. And there is no Circle in Amaranthine.

Alternatively, if Loghain is dead in your game, and you’re the king and married to Anora, that’s going to be evident.

[Godak]

I thought it was sixth months after Origins...Is that just a rumor?

[Maria Caliban]

Different players have different expectations when it comes to how the game acknowledges their choices. I'd be comfortable with Anders thanking me for helping the mages, but if someone wants to 'see that transformation and its effects,' that might not satisfy them.

Modifié par Maria Caliban, 17 février 2010 - 01:59 .

[MiSsSmOkEy20]

Godak wrote...

I thought it was sixth months after Origins...Is that just a rumor?

Im pretty sure it would be 6 months after Origins because in the epiloge for my human noble it said 6 months later her and Alistair married.. But I still think thats not enough time to see the big changes happen.

[JamieCOTC]

With all that has come out, it's beginning to look as if the only decision that carries over is if you did the dark ritual or not.

[lisakover]

I thought it was 3 months

[ArcanistLibram]

Who dies and who gets the throne are the only decisions that are imported, I think.

[Rylor Tormtor]

Short answer: Not really.

[Malfurus]

What do you mean there is no circle in Aramanthine? I'm confused, I thought we were still in Fereldan?

[Rylor Tormtor]

Malfurus wrote...

What do you mean there is no circle in Aramanthine? I'm confused, I thought we were still in Fereldan?

Aramanthine is in Fereldan.

[Aldaris951]

He meant that the mages tower is to the west. miles away from where awakening starts. But we do visit a location near ozamgar for the expansion so you never know.

[Marik333]

JamieCOTC wrote...

With all that has come out, it's beginning to look as if the only decision that carries over is if you did the dark ritual or not.

Actually, it looks like not even THAT matters much this go 'round, since even those Wardens who didn't do it, and sacced themselves, are still somehow okieday and kicking.

Maybe this is all just their clumsy attempt at setting some sort of "canon"? I know if I were them I'd be really regretting letting each individual game have so many different affects on the world, especially since this is supposed to be a new "franchise", and it's not all like ME where there's usually only 2 (sometimes 3) different outcomes for each choice. Especially when you consider how origin alone can somewhat change your "final request" at the end (or the US analogue)... unless they plan on pulling a Dragon Break type deal (only calling it the New Golden Age of Ferelden), where all of the good things that CAN happen to each group depending on the origin of the Warden DO happen.

[Feraele]

As for mages, I do seem to remember Alistair as King stating ( in one play-through) that a new tower would be built..as the Veil was still too thin in the old one, or something like that. Whether or not that actually happens is..of course I guess up in the air.



Alot of things we "thought" would happen aren't happening..so who can say.

[TheShady]

Personally, I would love a simply canon. No decision carry over whatsoever. Just a canon, an assumption of things that happened. Easy, simple, classic.

Worked with all the other games so far (especially well done in KoTOR --> KoTOR 2 even though those were two different companies) and there's just too much that can be different in DA:O for this to work properly and realistically.

I think this time around I'll completely ignore importing a savegame. Doesn't seem worth the trouble of having to replay DA:O again to get certain things.

[RangerSG]

Shady,



The Sith Lords didn't do a "canon." The question and answer in the beginning with your companion set the events of Knights 1 that it would recognize. Now, it then nuked the distinction so that Sith or Jedi, your Revan didn't really 'save' or 'win' either way. But I don't see how that was somehow a "good" thing.

[Dethanos]

I'm sure you'll get plenty of canon for the sequel. This is an expansion and there is nothing unreasonable about expecting our characters' world states to affect the plot and dialogue.

[Dave of Canada]

Feraele wrote...

As for mages, I do seem to remember Alistair as King stating ( in one play-through) that a new tower would be built..as the Veil was still too thin in the old one, or something like that. Whether or not that actually happens is..of course I guess up in the air.

Alot of things we "thought" would happen aren't happening..so who can say.

I got the "tower" rebuilt speech when my Mage sacrificed herself, but on my second mage he survived and it didn't mention anything about the new tower.

Apparently we're still alive though if we sacrificed ourselves, thus the tower would've never been built. Anything that happens thanks to our death was totally pointless, such as Oghren sobering up and a statue of you being made,

[Feraele]

Dave of Canada wrote...

Feraele wrote...

As for mages, I do seem to remember Alistair as King stating ( in one play-through) that a new tower would be built..as the Veil was still too thin in the old one, or something like that. Whether or not that actually happens is..of course I guess up in the air.

Alot of things we "thought" would happen aren't happening..so who can say.

I got the "tower" rebuilt speech when my Mage sacrificed herself, but on my second mage he survived and it didn't mention anything about the new tower.

Apparently we're still alive though if we sacrificed ourselves, thus the tower would've never been built. Anything that happens thanks to our death was totally pointless, such as Oghren sobering up and a statue of you being made,

ahh so my US one stated that then..probably why I remember it.

I think they need to get to it and declare whats canon....unconfuse the issue here.    It just gives false hope for things happening..that are shown in ending cutscenes, but really the Devs have no will to carry it through.

I  guess we can all resign ourselves to the Dark Ritual "canon" that everyone seems to think is.."it".

Kind of ruins alot of stuff for the other stories however.

Maybe having all these Origins etc..wasn't such a hot idea afterall.    I don't know what to think any more.  Never seen continuity screwed up like this before.

[Feraele]

distinguetraces wrote...

Feraele wrote...
Never seen continuity screwed up like this before.

None of us has yet seen continuity screwed up at all. I'm worried too, but simply giving up entirely on the idea of a branching story with a sequel seems a bit premature when it's all still rumor and specualtion.

You're right ..maybe I am giving up.  There's no answers forthcoming..this has been going on for several days.  Obviously not something that is important to them.   Their decisions are made..whatever we might think.

Hurrah for living dead wardens....heh.