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#26
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Dwarves! i love dwarves good work BW.

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I'm looking forward to seeing this!



I'm curious as to whether or not this is a lead in for a later expansion or DLC for the other known Dwarven City that still stands in existence, admittedly. Hee. Can't wait for the release! :) Thanks for the update!

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Herr Uhl wrote...

So, this is where the inferno golems are.

Is that darkspawn fighting each other on the third picture?


I have been squinting my eyes out at that picture myself. Very intriguing.

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Chris Priestly wrote...
This area is awesome to look at and deadly to explore in game.


Does this line scare anyone else?  :P  As if the Deep Roads didn't kill me enough my first time through anyways.... 


ETA: I love the extent of the darkspawn corruption in the area.  I always felt like DA:O was lacking in this, given how it was described in The Calling, so I'm glad to see that the taint is more visible in this area.

Modifié par Sandtigress, 17 février 2010 - 12:31 .


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I wish I could bring Shale along as well...

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Um...ok that might sound a little harsh, but...

...Awakening is not going to be Orzammar reloaded (dungeon crawl, few quests, lots of hack'n'slash), right ? Because with this new location and the fact that Oghren is the only NPC fully returning that's the impression I get.

Orzammar was by far the most boring (actually the only boring) part of DA. Imo of course
-but if that's how it's going to be I'll skip Awakening.

Modifié par GreenSoda, 17 février 2010 - 02:28 .


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Chris Priestly wrote...

I go out for lunch and the web team gets this up before I return thereby allowing Lewgiffard to steal my joy of posting. :pinched: Anyways, yes indeed Kal'Hirol. Make sure you check out the link and click the image for all 11 screenshots.

I have to say, I think that the level art for Kal'Hirol is my favorite in Awakening. The whole deep roads poluted by teh darkspawn taint was explored back in DA:O, but I think it is much better in Awakening. This area is awesome to look at and deadly to explore in game. I think fans are really gonna dig it. :)




:devil:


Next time you copy/paste Chris, make sure the first time you posted it, you spelled "the" right :-p  Just busting your chops bud.

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Nice another Dwarven city! Can't wait to get exploring!

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Dwarves rock! This place looks very atmospheric and might be legitimately scary, a quality that was missing in most of Origins. My ruthless, elf-slaying, golem-making, Urn-breaking dwarven warrior will be ready to clean out this infested hole and claim it in the glorious name of Aeducan.

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These breakthroughs brought Kal'Hirol great prosperity; its passageway are said to have glittered with gold and silver.


Not sure if I saw the gold and silver in the screenshots, but it is nice to look at.

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And...what about Kal Shirok (sp?)...they talk about this place surviving despite everything..and yet we still don't get to go "save" it or see it.

So the rest of the story is going to be about golems and Ohgren? No visit to Orlais, no visiting the Qunari lands......

And speaking of golems..if this is the case why can't we have Shale back?

I think these are fairly pertinent questions. :)

Modifié par Feraele, 17 février 2010 - 07:17 .


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Kal Sharok is very far away from Amaranthine in Ferelden, so the story can't take place there. Here's Thedas:



http://images1.wikia...0/ThedasMap.jpg



Look at the FAQ. The story is about the conflict with the Architect and the nature of the darkspawn. Hopefully, it'll make them more interesting as a faction. I'm glad they're going this route - one of DA:O's biggest flaws was a lack of solid villain and a sense of urgency.



I'd absolutely love to see Kal Sharok in a sequel, in addition to the Qunari lands and Tevinter. Life sounds extremely grim and brutal there - I wonder what people there had to do to survive.

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GreenSoda wrote...

Um...ok that might sound a little harsh, but...

...Awakening is not going to be Orzammar reloaded (dungeon crawl, few quests, lots of hack'n'slash), right ? Because with this new location and the fact that Oghren is the only NPC fully returning that's the impression I get.

Orzammar was by far the most boring (actually the only boring) part of DA. Imo of course
-but if that's how it's going to be I'll skip Awakening.


Really? you didn't like orzammar, i loved that portion of the game i thought the dwarven city was dark, brutal and majestic. Still each to their own.

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westiex9 wrote...

GreenSoda wrote...

Um...ok that might sound a little harsh, but...

...Awakening is not going to be Orzammar reloaded (dungeon crawl, few quests, lots of hack'n'slash), right ? Because with this new location and the fact that Oghren is the only NPC fully returning that's the impression I get.

Orzammar was by far the most boring (actually the only boring) part of DA. Imo of course
-but if that's how it's going to be I'll skip Awakening.


Really? you didn't like orzammar, i loved that portion of the game i thought the dwarven city was dark, brutal and majestic. Still each to their own.

I'm just not too keen on dwarves. Somehow they just don't click with me. The dwarven origins, for example, are the only part of the game I haven't touched at all.

I suppose the city Orzammar in DA was "ok" (than again: dwarves). There was a fair amount of content/quests and I actually liked the art style.

So when I said boring I actually meant the whole Deep Roads portion of the game that was part of the Orzammar quest hub. God, how I dreaded that place. :sick:

Hours up on hours of boring, hack'n'slash, non-stop darkspawn killing with (almost) no story/quests/NPCs content until you reach Branka. Terrible.
After my first complete playthrough I started 2 new characters and basically did everything there is in DA with them -they both, however, didn't finish the game because I can't bring myself to do the Deep Roads again.

So if Awakening is basically a new Orzammar quest hub with dwarves and extensive visits to the Deep Roads then, yeah -I'll be skipping this hack and slash expansion.

Modifié par GreenSoda, 17 février 2010 - 09:39 .


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GreenSoda wrote...

westiex9 wrote...

GreenSoda wrote...

Um...ok that might sound a little harsh, but...

...Awakening is not going to be Orzammar reloaded (dungeon crawl, few quests, lots of hack'n'slash), right ? Because with this new location and the fact that Oghren is the only NPC fully returning that's the impression I get.

Orzammar was by far the most boring (actually the only boring) part of DA. Imo of course
-but if that's how it's going to be I'll skip Awakening.


Really? you didn't like orzammar, i loved that portion of the game i thought the dwarven city was dark, brutal and majestic. Still each to their own.

I'm just not too keen on dwarves. Somehow they just don't click with me. The dwarven origins, for example, are the only part of the game I haven't touched at all.

I suppose the city Orzammar in DA was "ok" (than again: dwarves). There was a fair amount of content/quests and I actually liked the art style.

So when I said boring I actually meant the whole Deep Roads portion of the game that was part of the Orzammar quest hub. God, how I dreaded that place. :sick:

Hours up on hours of boring, hack'n'slash, non-stop darkspawn killing with (almost) no story/quests/NPCs content until you reach Branka. Terrible.
After my first complete playthrough I started 2 new characters and basically did everything there is in DA with them -they both, however, didn't finish the game because I can't bring myself to do the Deep Roads again.

So if Awakening is basically a new Orzammar quest hub with dwarves and extensive visits to the Deep Roads then, yeah -I'll be skipping this hack and slash expansion.


I can see where your coming from, i liked orzammar beacuse i love Dwarves but if your not into them it must be a bit of a pain to play through that section. I doubt Kal Hirol will be anywhere near as long as the deep roads sections though.

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Looks like a nasty place with those coccons and fleashy parts. The enemies looks more sinister in awakening.. And so does Kal'Hirol.

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Beautiful shots and I appreciate seeing less grey/brown but I have to agree with GreenSoda:

GreenSoda wrote...
Orzammar was by far the most boring (actually the only boring) part of DA. Imo of course
-but if that's how it's going to be I'll skip Awakening.


I hated the Deep Roads.  Loved the Orzammar city quests but the Deep Roads?  I'm stalled in my current play-through because that's next and I'm utterly dreading the endless hours of hack n' slash. 
This new location worries me.

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knittzu wrote...

I hated the Deep Roads.  Loved the Orzammar city quests but the Deep Roads?  I'm stalled in my current play-through because that's next and I'm utterly dreading the endless hours of hack n' slash. 
This new location worries me.



What endless hours? Set difficulty to easy and waltz through it. Don't waste party space on healers and tanks - go full damage. Then swap to a more sensible party set-up just before broodmom.
Deep Roads can be real fun when you just go wooooooooosh and be done with them :lol:

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Looking through the screens and wondering, is the blond woman one of Morrigan's sisters?

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Jezebel Denun wrote...

Looking through the screens and wondering, is the blond woman one of Morrigan's sisters?


No, that's Velanna. She's a dalish elf mage companion, who simply happens to have the same hair as Morrigan. After all, it would be too much to ask that when there only have been two femal mage companions, the third that gets created wouldn't be recycling looks of the previous ones.
*sigh*
<_<

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GreenSoda wrote...

Um...ok that might sound a little harsh, but...

...Awakening is not going to be Orzammar reloaded (dungeon crawl, few quests, lots of hack'n'slash), right ? Because with this new location and the fact that Oghren is the only NPC fully returning that's the impression I get.

Orzammar was by far the most boring (actually the only boring) part of DA. Imo of course
-but if that's how it's going to be I'll skip Awakening.


15 hours of pure fight...
no romance
and maybe small party interaction and dialogue....

now a dungeon...

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The other thing I'd like to see, is a visit to Arlathan..which is up by Rivain I believe on the map.



There are so many places that are mentioned in the story, but that we can't access. I'm okay with killing darkspawn, even visiting the deep roads again. I'm just dying of curiosity about the other places and how the other people live.

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GreenSoda wrote...
I'm just not too keen on dwarves. Somehow they just don't click with me. The dwarven origins, for example, are the only part of the game I haven't touched at all.

I suppose the city Orzammar in DA was "ok" (than again: dwarves). There was a fair amount of content/quests and I actually liked the art style.

So when I said boring I actually meant the whole Deep Roads portion of the game that was part of the Orzammar quest hub. God, how I dreaded that place. :sick:

Hours up on hours of boring, hack'n'slash, non-stop darkspawn killing with (almost) no story/quests/NPCs content until you reach Branka. Terrible.
After my first complete playthrough I started 2 new characters and basically did everything there is in DA with them -they both, however, didn't finish the game because I can't bring myself to do the Deep Roads again.

So if Awakening is basically a new Orzammar quest hub with dwarves and extensive visits to the Deep Roads then, yeah -I'll be skipping this hack and slash expansion.


The Dwarven Noble Origin is easily the best origin story of the game. In fact, I'd go as far as to say it's one of the best parts of the game overall. Try it out - you'll be surprised at how cool it is.

The biggest complaint people seem to have about the Deep Roads is the large amount of filler combat. While I can't deny that it does get tedious, IMO, the atmosphere, the darker setting, a few morally grey choices, and learning more about the darkspawn  made up for that flaw. Though I understand why a lot of people wouldn't like it - the game did indeed have a lot of combat that could have been cut out.

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Dick Delaware wrote...
The Dwarven Noble Origin is easily the best origin story of the game. In fact, I'd go as far as to say it's one of the best parts of the game overall. Try it out - you'll be surprised at how cool it is.


I completely agree.  I don't like Dwarves much but that origin just rocked.

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knittzu wrote...

I completely agree.  I don't like Dwarves much but that origin just rocked.

 

I like how taking a different origin really gave you a different perspective on choices. My Human Noble was vengeful, but also a man of integrity who's willing to put himself in harm's way if it means doing the right thing.

Because of the backstabbing of  Orzammar's politics, my Dwarven Noble was a far more... morally flexible guy. He's ruthless, practical, patriotic, and VERY results-oriented. He's willing to sacrifice the elves because he sees that the werewolves the exact kind of rage-filled, perfect killing machines needed to stop the Blight. He sides with Branka, hungering for a return to the dwarven golden age, where the dwarves weren't a dying race with only two cities left.

That was my favourite part of the Origins, they really allowed you to make different choices because it allowed you to come at problems from a different perspective.