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[Kaiser Shepard]

Oh lord, Star Ocean... The first two were amusing, but 3 was pretty bad and don't even get me started on how horrible 4 was.

[the_one_54321]

ReDSH1FT wrote...
You're putting Final Fantasy 1-12 as hits, EVERY ONE OF THEM?
And Star Ocean 1-7???
What rubric are you using?
LOL.
I doubt that Star Ocean 1-7's sales combined will be more than ME2.
I gotta love you man, you're absolutely weeaboo.  A true Japanophile

They were hits. Just because they don't fit your personal criteria for a good game does not mean they didn't do well.

And if the mod here won't do something about you name calling, I'll take PMs to one that will.

I am not a Japanophile, I just like the games they make.

If you really don't want the Star Oceans in there (I wasn't supper fond of them either) there's always Chrono Trigger, Chrono Cross, Fire Emblem 1-5, Xexnosaga 1-3, Xenogears, Metal Gear, Metal Gear Solid 1-4.

Modifié par the_one_54321, 17 février 2010 - 02:05 .

[Chrono Mizaki]

ReDSH1FT wrote...

Chrono Mizaki wrote...

javierabegazo wrote...

Btw guys, what's "weaboo" referring to?

If it's a person, then it's me. If it's a definition: Someone who's likely to kamikaze themselves in the name of Japan.

OK, lemme get this straight

Oh, I'm going to love this. Let's see what you come up with!

First you say

Congratulations, you've come to a satisfactory conclusion, I am indeed a weeaboo.  Sugoii

I was being sarcastic there. The 'sugoii' bit is actually obvious sarcasm.

Followed by 

You assume I was a 'weeaboo' , and frankly that make you the fool as well

I was stating that you was accusing me, which me to accuse you of assuming that.

Then come full circle with, in response to "what is a weeaboo"

If it's a person, then it's me.

Actually, that sentenced left out a lot of content and it was so ambigious. I was meant to say "If it's a person that's directed at, it's me as I'm apparently accused".

I was right about you from the start, now who's the fool.

Still you.

[Garuda One]

Have some more weeabo images javierabegazo. Every time someone says Final Fantasy 13 is amazing or there going to buy it and Final Fantasy 14 is going to be fun, imagen them looking like this.

[Memset]

Garuda One wrote...

javierabegazo wrote...

Btw guys, what's "weaboo" referring to?

I had to laugh at those. Very nice. Have to wonder what the guy does with all those plastic dolls?

[Zavox]

the_one_54321 wrote...

Zavox wrote...

the_one_54321 wrote...

ReDSH1FT wrote...
You say Square has 20 hits?
Can you list their "hits?"
Go ahead, I'll wait

FF 1-12. (none of them did poorly)
Kingdom Hearts 1&2
Star Ocean 1-7
That's already over 20, and I didn't get all of the Final Fantasy's or any of the re-releases.

Got to love you saying copy-paste is bad just a while ago, and now showing us FF1-12 as 12 hits... just lovely. Especially the part where you go on about re-releases. Do they actually have as much original IP hits as Bioware?

I don't think I said anything about copy paste.
Also, each FF, (and that's 13 so far) is a brand new IP. When they've made a game in the same IP they don't give it a new number. Hence FFX-2, FFXIII: Versus, FFXII: Revenant Wings.

So as to how many original IPs Square has? Minimum of 13.

And there is often just as fantastic a difference between copying something and copying it well.

There you go... we all know how you meant that.

Maybe I used the wrong set of words, I meant to say, is not a copy-paste of a previous game. Quite a few games in FF are the same concept, just a different story.

[Jonas TM]

casedawgz wrote...

To me, Diablo isn't an RPG either. All those games...Diablo, Champions of Norrath, the Baldurs Gate: Dark Alliance games; I just refer to them as dungeon crawlers. More a brawler than anything else.

I tend to draw a line between dungeon drawlers and RPGs as well.  IMO what an earlier poster said about having a profound impact on the unraveling of the story is what defines an RPG to me.  Lootwhoring and persistant micromanagement actually detract from the game, at least for me.  Thats not to say ME, KotOR, and NWN weren't great RPGs, they definately were and I played the hell out of all of them.  I just think mandating that a massive inventory and chracter sheet micromanagement be required for a "true RPG" is crap.

[Ryzaki]

Garuda One wrote...

Have some more weeabo images javierabegazo. Every time someone says Final Fantasy 13 is amazing or there going to buy it and Final Fantasy 14 is going to be fun, imagen them looking like this.

Oh NOES someone has different personal tastes from me! Teh world is ending!?!

You do realize there are those who feel ME2 sucks too right? And they're perfectly valid in their beliefs like you are about FF13 sucking? 

Tis personal taste.

RPG = playing a role. 99% of video games are RPGs. Sadly that's going to include something someone doesn't want in it. (For instance Mario/Pokemon/KingdomHearts/NeverwinterNights/MassEffect/FinalFantasyX/ChrnoTrigger/Xenosaga/etc.) 

So Like Yeah. Calling something an RPG does nothing for me. >_>

And Atlus needs to stop bloody milking Persona 3 and come out with 5 already damnit! 

Modifié par Ryzaki, 17 février 2010 - 02:09 .

[Mokinokaro]

ReDSH1FT wrote...

OK anyway, my original point stands, Japan needs to up its game to compare with BioWare.

They already have:  Persona 3 and 4 are amazing games and very different from what most folks would call a normal JRPG.   There's a lot more out there than just Final Fantasy.

[Chrono Mizaki]

Garuda One wrote...

Have some more weeabo images javierabegazo. Every time someone says Final Fantasy 13 is amazing or there going to buy it and Final Fantasy 14 is going to be fun, imagen them looking like this.

I hope not. I actually pre-ordered the game.

...yes. Laugh at me. Laugh at the fool who preordered it. The gameplay sold it to me alone, and tell me: Who can deny flinging an enemy up in the air and doing air flurries whilst your allies spam lightning on it?

[Garuda One]

Ryzaki wrote...

Garuda One wrote...

Have some more weeabo images javierabegazo. Every time someone says Final Fantasy 13 is amazing or there going to buy it and Final Fantasy 14 is going to be fun, imagen them looking like this.

Oh NOES someone has different personal tastes from me! Teh world is ending!?!

You do realize there are those who feel ME2 sucks too right? And they're perfectly valid in their beliefs like you are about FF13 sucking? 

Tis personal taste.

[Chrono Mizaki]

Mokinokaro wrote...

ReDSH1FT wrote...

OK anyway, my original point stands, Japan needs to up its game to compare with BioWare.

They already have:  Persona 3 and 4 are amazing games and very different from what most folks would call a normal JRPG.   There's a lot more out there than just Final Fantasy.

This. The Shin Megami Tensei Franchise is more than your 'average' JRPG imo.

[Springchicken]

javierabegazo wrote...

the_one_54321 wrote...

Also, FFXIII hasn't even released outside of Japan yet.

Your point is null, ME2's sales figures in Japan alone are far higher than
that of FFXIII's. Even on it's home turf, with all the massive press
about FFXIII, ME2 still had larger sales.

Source? I can't find any figures regarding that. The only data I could see was original Mass Effect sales in Japan, which was released in May 2009. Are you sure it's out?

And FFXIII has sold 1.88m copies in Japan alone since its release. www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php

I know this may be hard to do considering what forum I am on, but can we tone down the foaming bile-ridden bias, and also the sniping at Mizaki, who's done very little wrong beyond defending himself from abuse.

Modifié par Springchicken, 17 février 2010 - 02:11 .

[Zavox]

Chrono Mizaki wrote...

Zavox wrote...

the_one_54321 wrote...

ReDSH1FT wrote...
You say Square has 20 hits?
Can you list their "hits?"
Go ahead, I'll wait

FF 1-12. (none of them did poorly)
Kingdom Hearts 1&2
Star Ocean 1-7

That's already over 20, and I didn't get all of the Final Fantasy's or any of the re-releases.

Got to love you saying copy-paste is bad just a while ago, and now showing us FF1-12 as 12 hits... just lovely. Especially the part where you go on about re-releases. Do they actually have as much original IP hits as Bioware?

If you want Original IP, then I'll list them

Final Fantasy
Dragon Quest
Xenosaga
Kingdom Hearts
Star Ocean
Chrono Series
Musharhi [SP?] [Might check that one for spellings]
Parasite Eve [More like a borrowed IP, since it's based on the books]
The Worlds Ends With You
Sigma Harmonics [japan Only]
Mana Series

Quite a lot of original IPs. And there's more. The problem however? They are largely ignored in favour of the big three [Dragon Quest, Final Fantasy, Kingdom Hearts]

Read my sentence again, I said hit. Largely ignored is quite a synonyme for me as not being a hit.

[Kaiser Shepard]

Ah, I love the smell of internet drama in the morning. Smells like victory.

[the_one_54321]

[quote]Zavox wrote...
[quote]the_one_54321 wrote...
And there is often just as fantastic a difference between copying something and copying it well.
There you go... we all know how you meant that.
Maybe I used the wrong set of words, I meant to say, is not a copy-paste of a previous game. Quite a few games in FF are the same concept, just a different story.[/quote]
Actually, that's not what I meant by that at all.

I meant that the JRPGs have done everything that the WRPGs have done, and done it first. And many WRPGs qualify only as pale comparisons. Not BioWare though. BioWare does a fantastic job.

[ReDSH1FT]

They were hits. Just because they don't fit your personal criteria for a good game does not mean they didn't do well.

How, how are those Star Ocean games hits?  How many people have actually played all of them?  How many agree that they are all amazing, like you seem to think?

You're comparing Star Ocean 4 to KOTOR, do you realize how ridiculous that sounds?

[MTN Dew Fanatic]

I don't like JRPG mainly, because in almost all of them the swords that are 3x as big as the person using them. That just doesn't make any sense to me.

[Ryzaki]

Garuda One wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Garuda One wrote...

Have some more weeabo images javierabegazo. Every time someone says Final Fantasy 13 is amazing or there going to buy it and Final Fantasy 14 is going to be fun, imagen them looking like this.

Oh NOES someone has different personal tastes from me! Teh world is ending!?!

You do realize there are those who feel ME2 sucks too right? And they're perfectly valid in their beliefs like you are about FF13 sucking? 

Tis personal taste.

[Chrono Mizaki]

Zavox wrote...

Chrono Mizaki wrote...

Zavox wrote...

the_one_54321 wrote...

ReDSH1FT wrote...
You say Square has 20 hits?
Can you list their "hits?"
Go ahead, I'll wait

FF 1-12. (none of them did poorly)
Kingdom Hearts 1&2
Star Ocean 1-7

That's already over 20, and I didn't get all of the Final Fantasy's or any of the re-releases.

Got to love you saying copy-paste is bad just a while ago, and now showing us FF1-12 as 12 hits... just lovely. Especially the part where you go on about re-releases. Do they actually have as much original IP hits as Bioware?

If you want Original IP, then I'll list them

Final Fantasy
Dragon Quest
Xenosaga
Kingdom Hearts
Star Ocean
Chrono Series
Musharhi [SP?] [Might check that one for spellings]
Parasite Eve [More like a borrowed IP, since it's based on the books]
The Worlds Ends With You
Sigma Harmonics [japan Only]
Mana Series

Quite a lot of original IPs. And there's more. The problem however? They are largely ignored in favour of the big three [Dragon Quest, Final Fantasy, Kingdom Hearts]

Read my sentence again, I said hit. Largely ignored is quite a synonyme for me as not being a hit.

It actually depends on 'which is a hit for which platform'.

[Ryzaki]

Kingdom Hearts was largely ignored?



12 million copies = largely ignored. I guess BioWare is nonexistant then. I don't think they've ever broken 9 million.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 17 février 2010 - 02:15 .

[Garuda One]

Holy **** guys, did you hear about the new final fantasy game!? **** looks ****ing tight. Omg Im reserving my copy tomorrow. Heres the cover art.







Isn't so Kawaii!?

[the_one_54321]

Zavox wrote...

If you want Original IP, then I'll list them

Final Fantasy
Dragon Quest
Xenosaga
Kingdom Hearts
Star Ocean
Chrono Series
Musharhi [SP?] [Might check that one for spellings]
Parasite Eve [More like a borrowed IP, since it's based on the books]
The Worlds Ends With You
Sigma Harmonics [japan Only]
Mana Series

Quite a lot of original IPs. And there's more. The problem however? They are largely ignored in favour of the big three [Dragon Quest, Final Fantasy, Kingdom Hearts]

Read my sentence again, I said hit. Largely ignored is quite a synonyme for me as not being a hit.

Are you nuts?! Most of those games were massive hits! Just because you don't like them doesn't mean they didn't do extremely well.

Modifié par the_one_54321, 17 février 2010 - 02:13 .

[Chrono Mizaki]

Oh and...



Parasite Eve was a 'hit'. After all, it spawned a 'sequel'. And it does have its cult fanbase, which is why The 3rd Birthday is in development.