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[krasnoarmeets]

On the other hand Ohgren may be a compulsory inclusion like with certain missions in DAO.... especially given that this is looking to be turning into a tedious deep roads excursion. I don't know about other people, but the deep roads/Orzammar portion of DAO, was one of my least favourite parts.

[mandiexile]

What people seem to forget is that it's an EXPANSION...basically a longer DLC. It's not part 2...so I hope. I can't have too many complaints. I'm really glad that they're bring Urtha back from The Calling. I'm really interested to visually see some parts of the books come to life. As dissappointed as I am that I won't have Alistair at my side, and that I won't be able to romance Anders...I'll live. I'm more interested in the story that David Gaider has created. What I want to know is if some of my questions from the books will be answered...like the story behind Maric's death...I really want to know exactly how he died. Anyway...most of the people who are complaining probably never read the books, and don't care about the WHOLE story. I just hope to be jaw dropped surprised with the story line. That or a new book needs to come out.

[Waage25]

Well NO reason for me to buy this.

The story line in Bioware games tend to be okay, but to generic for my taste and only the romance and character interaction helps me to play these games.

Now no romance is not so bad if they had not posted it in the middle of every thing and stomping there foot down on what could be a interesting development between you and a NPC.

Well no buy from me until it hits bargain bin like the old bioware games.

Now i am Looking forward to the next Mass effect though becaus at least it manges to move the romances along and the story liens along at a good pace with out pulling the "Alternate universe" bull**** and playing redcon with my choices.

5 bucks say they rip off Mask of the Betrayer again like they did in Mass Effect 2 and you will now be cut of from your freinds on a secret mission.

[Catalyst38]

i like to feel something for the people in my party love hate like or tolerate. I dont mind the romances not carrying over and now have new ones is fine by me although i think there should be something for though of us who became king and queens. Are significant other should have just bumped there heads and forgotten us. what i worry about is what makes bioware games so good is the integration with the part what you do matter because the people watching your back might not like your choice. if they took back on party development to push main story then why give me a party just give me 3 characters that dont talk and just hit things or heal.

i hope that the no romance thing is just that the sex scenes get old after some time....i personally like the basila/raven(spelled her name wrong i know.) one the best. it was pure emotion and you felt it throughout the whole game not just when you where in camp/on the ship.

Modifié par Catalyst38, 24 février 2010 - 06:06 .

[HugThePiggy]

I agree! I don't like the new Characters that much. I am attached to the old ones, and the elf mage looks like a rip off of Morrigan only she REALLY hates you, and the Human Mae looks like a less cool version of Alistair!

I at least think you should have a choice to bring back one of your personal favorites. I liked Sten the most, and I really don't know if I want to play Awakening if Sten or any of your old Companions aren't there. I really liked some of the characters, but not others. So if we could have a choice of who to go adventure to Amaranthine with, it would make everyone happy.

[Howser27]

Why do I see more rocks falling on my party's heads circa NWN2...

[Reaverwind]

Howser27 wrote...

Why do I see more rocks falling on my party's heads circa NWN2...

And then you wake up and discover you've somehow become a soul-sucking Abomination circa MotB?

[Howser27]

except this time you can only cure yourself by defeating diablo, I mean, uh, darkspawn. sorry, it seems I have the new expansion confused with a simple hack'n'slash. silly me.

[grieferbastard]

DragonDefender wrote...
 Well obviously Carlo people actualy are very pissed at this happening to them in the new DA:A among other things they have screwed us on. So yes you probably see 5-8 new negative posts everyday about this happening until people realize Bioware just doesnt care or Bioware starts listening to what the people " PAYING" for their titles want. If they keep  doing the former they will be like every other game company who has made it big and done the same thing, we will watch them fall to the wayside then disappear.

This is never not funny to me. It's an expansion that has nothing to do with your love interests. It's about, you know, the core story of Dragon Age - fighting the Darkspawn. Most likely Dragon Age 2 will focus on Morrigan and the idea that the Dark Ritual was canon. For the main character or someone else. This is an expansion. Not a full game. It's a comperatively short storyline. Not an epic 120 hour drama, like the consequences of the Dark Ritual would be.

BioWare has been around for about 15 years, doing amazingly well and based on the stunning successes of Dragon Age and Mass Effect will continue to do amazingly well.

What I find true comedy is the 'this is happening to them in the new DA:A' comment. Like this is something BioWare is doing to them just to upset them. Like in between eating kittens and slapping under privileged children around they try to think of what they can do to upset people. Are you serious? Genuinely, I've got to ask, is this what you really think? No. They did not make an entire expansion around the hero of the story pursuing their romance options of choice. You want to talk about an expansion idea doomed to failure. Being an expansion it's got a drastically smaller budget and they focused it on the true core story of the series -

The Darkspawn and the Grey Wardens fight against them.

Why the choices they made came out has been explained by BioWare representatives a few times and all of it's perfectly logical, largely based around cost vs content produced. The idea that somehow you didn't get the Barbie Dream Car not because of cost or something else but specifically because mommy doesn't love you enough really borders on the wacky though.

Sorry if this comes off as some sort of direct attack, DragonDefender I have no idea who you are as a person nor do I have any right or intent to somehow judge you but the comments you made reflect a certain mindset that's common on the forums and I really want to call it into question.

[Catalyst38]

i just want to feel a part of the world like only bioware can do. other single player rpgs make you feel more like you wandering or moving through the world i.e fallout3.

[lazuli]

Reaverwind wrote...

And then you wake up and discover you've somehow become a soul-sucking Abomination circa MotB?

And then you wake up again to realize that Bioware didn't create Neverwinter Nights 2, nor its expansion set.

You probably already know this, but it doesn't hurt to bring it up.

[worksa8]

I can deal with some things, but I'm starting to agree it's like they are not even trying now.

-No Romances.

-Romances do not carry over.

-No DLC items carry over

-No new killing blows, or adding them to golems and such (Right now they just lamely swing at the air after they die, some finisher o.O)

-1/3rd new content, but mroe then half the reatil price of the original game.

-Like less then half, maybe even 1/4th the playtime. (20 hours with all side quests, before it was like 80 or 40, I forget.)

- Companions cut

-etc...

Some are reasonable and such, but they do add up after a while...and more "No's" keep coming in...

[Archereon]

On this thread and other complaining threads: A good portion of the posters here are either fanboys or anti-fanboys, blindly following bioware or cursing the ground they walk on for the sake of doing it...

[Koralis]

bluebullets wrote...
a romance in Origins, does it carry over into Awakening? (Back to top)

Romances do not carry forward in Awakening, because you are away from your previous life fighting a new threat.

1.8 – Who can I romance in Dragon Age: Origins - Awakening? (Back to top)

There are no romances options available in Awakening. The story is focused more on the mission at hand and the new threat to Ferelden.


Lets get this straight.. You cannot romance anybody... (Okay, this is tolerable)
BUT your past romances do not carry over? WTF!!!!

Your romantic partner isn't THERE.  Unless you had a crush on Ohgren.

Pretend to pine if you like.

[bluecuban]

Honestly, if you play with Oghren, talk with him, do his personal quest, and really become friendly with him, he is one of the best friends you will ever have. When I found out he would be returning in Awakening, I did another play-through in Origins just to work with him more. Oghren is hands-down a closer friend and comrade than Alistair, Sten, or any of the others can become.

[Blue_dodo]

DragonDefender wrote...

The main thing I am really annoyed, I cant really call it mad or upset because the emotions are not that strong is the DLC content not coming over. Yes I did have fun with it when I played through it, however I was under the assumption that our decisions and gear would be coming with us.

And am I no way telling anyone to do what I did and go get a full refund for those who pre-ordered it like I did.

And I will agree with Shedevil, I can respect anyone who wants to play DA:A I think I just want to sit back and let my peer's review it before I decide to go spend my money on an expansion is all now.

it's only the promotional items, RtO iteksis still there, you still get you PoB talents...I don't see what the issue is most of the promotional stuff was  nice early but was replaced later.

as for romance ? does really matterr weather you get to fondle that chick ? it's the story that matters.

[Blue_dodo]

Waage25 wrote...

Well NO reason for me to buy this.

The story line in Bioware games tend to be okay, but to generic for my taste and only the romance and character interaction helps me to play these games.

Now no romance is not so bad if they had not posted it in the middle of every thing and stomping there foot down on what could be a interesting development between you and a NPC.

Well no buy from me until it hits bargain bin like the old bioware games.

Now i am Looking forward to the next Mass effect though becaus at least it manges to move the romances along and the story liens along at a good pace with out pulling the "Alternate universe" bull**** and playing redcon with my choices.

5 bucks say they rip off Mask of the Betrayer again like they did in Mass Effect 2 and you will now be cut of from your freinds on a secret mission.

1. good for you but remember the world doesn't stop because you want it too

2. see aboe ^

3.dao is still about 50 dollers,it will be a long time before it hits "the bargain bin". which means oh an about 4 or five years

4. how is it reconning ? your charecter  was killed, can't really go very far with seeing as you ARE DEAd.I mean if you want you charecter to not be "retcon" the for the love of jebus dont import your charecter

5.bioware did not develop neverwinter nights 2 obsidion did...

[Bratt1204]

bluecuban wrote...

Honestly, if you play with Oghren, talk with him, do his personal quest, and really become friendly with him, he is one of the best friends you will ever have. When I found out he would be returning in Awakening, I did another play-through in Origins just to work with him more. Oghren is hands-down a closer friend and comrade than Alistair, Sten, or any of the others can become.

I'm sorry, I cannot agree with that statement.

[Karlojey]

I think it's not too much of a disappointment given that it is only an expansion. I'm sure BioWare will pleasantly surprise us when DA:O 2 (and 3 hopefully?) comes out. The expansion aims to show our warden busy building up the Grey Wardens. As for my thoughts on the common complaints about the coming expansion:

1. Why Oghren? Why not
I agree with most of the people that posted here. Not just because some of us doesn't like Oghren it means that he's the worst companion to be brought back. I for one would like to have Leliana, Dog or Alistair, but bringing back Oghren won't be a deal breaker for me. As for Morrigan, I think it's too soon to bring her back. If the devs are planning to make this into a trilogy (a la Mass Effect) then wouldn't it be better if she came out in the finale? It would be the climax of the franchise IMO. Furthermore, out of all the companions, Oghren joined the warden out of gratitude for helping him find Branka, unlike the other companions who has their own mission against the Blight which is why they joined the Warden (ex. Sten wanted to know what the Blight is, Leliana was told by the Maker to help the Warden, etc.). So given that, we weren't able to see much of Oghren's story so it's nice for him to get a chance here in Awakenings.

2. No relationships?
The Warden had to go to Amaranthine (spelling?) to rebuild the Grey Wardens. If we had any relationships in DA:O which I'm sure a majority of us have, I personally think it would be difficult for the relationship to prosper while the Warden is busy. Similar to soldiers that go to war, they don't bring their GF/Wife with them right? As for having no relationships with the coming companions, maybe they're not interested? Hehe I guess we'll see but still it's not a deal breaker for me.

3. My dead Warden is alive even if I sacrificed myself?!
DA:A will probably give some weird explanation why this happened like maybe one of your companions used the ashes of Andraste or something similar to the Lazarus Project on ME2.

Just my two cents guys. Let's wait for the game before we judge if it's crap.

Modifié par Karlojey, 07 mars 2010 - 04:59 .

[kennyme2]

Bioware wants to tell a different story. They also want to simplify their job when making DA:O 2. No new romances means more time given to ones that already exists. I get your disappointment but please try to understand it like this: Bioware wants to tell the story with a different tone and no romance+new characters is part of that tone.



Like in Full Metal Panic. Season 1 was fighting, season 2 was all comedy, season three is back to fighting. The the devs a chance to try something new.

[FieryDove]

Karlojey wrote...


2. No relationships?
The Warden had to go to Amaranthine (spelling?) to rebuild the Grey Wardens. If we had any relationships in DA:O which I'm sure a majority of us have, I personally think it would be difficult for the relationship to prosper while the Warden is busy. Similar to soldiers that go to war, they don't bring their GF/Wife with them right? As for having no relationships with the coming companions, maybe they're not interested? Hehe I guess we'll see but still it's not a deal breaker for me.

Just my two cents guys. Let's wait for the game before we judge if it's crap.

Most wives/gf's are not assassins/templars/bards no?

In all my playthroughs when I ended with rebuilding the GW's Lel, Zev and Ali stayed with me to do it, only it mentioned Alistair leaving a short time to do duncan's memorial which he did and hurried back. So it will be interesting to see what is said if anything why they are not there.

I think the best thing might have been to just have an orleisian warden period, no tranferring of the "hero" for this expansion. But that's just me...

As to DLC I was just worried that so many of my characters will start out with many empty slots, there has been nothing said we will get replacement gear right away and hand-waving isn't very threatening to most enemies. imho

I just wish they would have announced this sooner so I could have planned better, I will not go back and replay all those characters and try to run around and re-buy all the extra gear I sold. I should have sold it mostly at camp, but alas I did not.

I do believe it will be a great game filled with varied and interesting characters. However...
I will say it again...I will miss my puppy.

[Default137]

Why was this bumped?



They already said if you were in a romance, it will be mentioned by your partner.



They already mentioned that old companions will be making a cameo, including Dog.



And they've already brought back the RtO DLC items, and have mentioned they may do the WK stuff to.



Really, what did people expect with the old companions? None of them really stood out as someone who would stick with the Wardens after the Blight ended, other then 3 small romance options, Dog, and Loghain, who nobody saved.



And yet people seem surprised that Sten won't just drop everything to come help you rebuild the Wardens, or that the Preggers Morrigan won't just get up and run around Ferelden some more with you? Or how about King Alistar, I'm sure he can drop everything on a whim to help you fight intelligent Darkspawn armies and possibly die horribly like his predecessor .



The only possible reason they would stick with you is if Alistar, Leliana, and Zevran came with you to help rebuild, and in that case, rebuilding doesn't always mean running into the Deep Roads swords held high screaming, Alistar and Loghain would be much more useful as trainers for the new Wardens, as both are at that point powerful Warriors in their own right, Zevran and Leliana are scouts, spies, or probably recruiters, as they are both very good at sneaking around, and finding out whats going on.



Just because they won't be in your party doesn't mean they won't be there.



But yeah, I will miss Dog >_>

[MassEffect762]

I really want to see how they write off a romanced Leliana that is committed to defeating the blight with her warden. The explanation for that one will be interesting or lame, I just can't see a middle ground.

Modifié par MassEffect762, 07 mars 2010 - 06:51 .

[Bratt1204]

Karlojey wrote...

I think it's not too much of a disappointment given that it is only an expansion. I'm sure BioWare will pleasantly surprise us when DA:O 2 (and 3 hopefully?) comes out. The expansion aims to show our warden busy building up the Grey Wardens. As for my thoughts on the common complaints about the coming expansion:

1. Why Oghren? Why not
I agree with most of the people that posted here. Not just because some of us doesn't like Oghren it means that he's the worst companion to be brought back. I for one would like to have Leliana, Dog or Alistair, but bringing back Oghren won't be a deal breaker for me. As for Morrigan, I think it's too soon to bring her back. If the devs are planning to make this into a trilogy (a la Mass Effect) then wouldn't it be better if she came out in the finale? It would be the climax of the franchise IMO. Furthermore, out of all the companions, Oghren joined the warden out of gratitude for helping him find Branka, unlike the other companions who has their own mission against the Blight which is why they joined the Warden (ex. Sten wanted to know what the Blight is, Leliana was told by the Maker to help the Warden, etc.). So given that, we weren't able to see much of Oghren's story so it's nice for him to get a chance here in Awakenings.

2. No relationships?
The Warden had to go to Amaranthine (spelling?) to rebuild the Grey Wardens. If we had any relationships in DA:O which I'm sure a majority of us have, I personally think it would be difficult for the relationship to prosper while the Warden is busy. Similar to soldiers that go to war, they don't bring their GF/Wife with them right? As for having no relationships with the coming companions, maybe they're not interested? Hehe I guess we'll see but still it's not a deal breaker for me.

3. My dead Warden is alive even if I sacrificed myself?!
DA:A will probably give some weird explanation why this happened like maybe one of your companions used the ashes of Andraste or something similar to the Lazarus Project on ME2.

Just my two cents guys. Let's wait for the game before we judge if it's crap.

I don't think there will be a continuation of almost anything from DA:O in a DA:2 (sequel), save a few references. Very few RPGs have directly carried over over stories smoothly in sequels. Usually they are set years after or before the original game, and only reference what was. If Bioware plans to do several expansions to DAO as they claim, then that is where we should expect to see a direct continuation of our PC's storyline from DA:O. I'm afraid to say if we do not see a proper storyline extension in Awakening, I doubt we will again. What a shame. 

Modifié par Bratt1204, 07 mars 2010 - 01:47 .

[Bratt1204]

Default137 wrote...

Why was this bumped?

They already said if you were in a romance, it will be mentioned by your partner.

They already mentioned that old companions will be making a cameo, including Dog.

And they've already brought back the RtO DLC items, and have mentioned they may do the WK stuff to.

Really, what did people expect with the old companions? None of them really stood out as someone who would stick with the Wardens after the Blight ended, other then 3 small romance options, Dog, and Loghain, who nobody saved.

And yet people seem surprised that Sten won't just drop everything to come help you rebuild the Wardens, or that the Preggers Morrigan won't just get up and run around Ferelden some more with you? Or how about King Alistar, I'm sure he can drop everything on a whim to help you fight intelligent Darkspawn armies and possibly die horribly like his predecessor .

The only possible reason they would stick with you is if Alistar, Leliana, and Zevran came with you to help rebuild, and in that case, rebuilding doesn't always mean running into the Deep Roads swords held high screaming, Alistar and Loghain would be much more useful as trainers for the new Wardens, as both are at that point powerful Warriors in their own right, Zevran and Leliana are scouts, spies, or probably recruiters, as they are both very good at sneaking around, and finding out whats going on.

Just because they won't be in your party doesn't mean they won't be there.

But yeah, I will miss Dog >_>

You seem to forget that a HNF can marry Alistair (if made King) and become Queen. That is not a simple romantic distraction, it is a very important plot element to those who chose this ending. What I am concerned about is how it will be portrayed in Awakening and future expansions.