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[Nic-V]

Ceridraen wrote...

After all, even if you choose the US ending (which they seem to be disavowing with this exp), she seems to be pregnant at the end. (maybe that's the point of Riordan? An excuse as to how she found a tainted man at the last minute? Annoying, if so, in that she could have slept with *him* - too old though she said he was - rather than my elf's boyfriend! But that would be possible.

As far as I know she is not pregnant if you haven't:
A. Romanced her
or
B. Done the dark ritual

[Krocodyle]

Id like to see the Return of the Tevinter Imperium I liked fighting all those Revenants

[Elanareon]

Choices from ME1 to ME2 wasn't that many. And frankly there was almost no difference at all. Dead council or allive council? Heck its still Anderson you talk to LOL. They just add some small tidbits here and there.

[Vuokseniska]

it won't be about the grey wardens but about a normal rogue, mage or warrior in the service of.... <entry other country> to fight off Morrigans son or something else

[Behindyounow]

Hopefully nothing to do with Morrigan, and nothing to do with the Blight.



Morrigan is a cow, and not everyone took her up on her offer.



Regarding wanting another Blight... why? Thats what DA1 is about. I'm hoping for the Qunari or the Tevinter Imperium to be the villains in the next game.

[Kats_RK]

It would probably be about Morrigans kid & She'll have twins
& how she ends up using them,to try to get into the fade maybe Black city ? Like the Tevinter mages.

[7th_Phoenix]

I have no idea but definitely something outside of Fereldan... maybe something more dangerous than the darkspawn and the Blight. Morrigan's child/children...? Like I said, don't really know. :|

[Nhadalie]

Elanareon wrote...

Wow, i think Morrigan's baby as a companion is really interesting. There is someone else as a protagonist, you are just a friend helping out, or something like that.

It would be easier than trying to explain how Morrigan gave birth to someone of a different race. I think it's more likely than the PC being her child. Because according to how it works in DA, any race + human = human.

Unless of course they made it so you could only play a human character.

[Onyx Jaguar]

Behindyounow wrote...

Hopefully nothing to do with Morrigan, and nothing to do with the Blight.

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I agree, I'd rather start with a new storyline or MAYBE the characters from the first (granted engine problems would most likely prevent that) in a different setting away from Ferelden and what went on there.

[Super_Cat]

It will probably have something to do with the notes of Arl Foreshadow...



----------Notes of Arl Foreshadow-----------------------



Books to pursue for future endeavors.



Lost countenance: Ferelden to Orlesian Phrase Book



-Must not offend the potential landlords



Raising Spirits: Offsprings and the Fade



-Terrible two's indeed!



Forest Fall: Truth and Legend in the Search for Arlathan



-Survivors? poppycock!



The Origin of Theses: Knowing more than Everyone without Looking Like a Jackass



-Never get the time to read this. Maybe there's a stage play?



--------------------------------------------------------





So.... time travel and predestination paradoxes will be the main theme of Dragon Age 2.

[Phantom_1]

Big_Chief wrote...

Phantom_1 wrote...

casedawgz wrote...

I'm sure that a suitable amount of time will pass so as to render all choices moot. With ME2 it was doable, but there's just way to much stuff for DA2 to deal with importing.

Dont think is that hard to implement.
They would need to base DAO2 on canon ending and assume our warden did accepted dark ritual.
They would need to return main characters of game:
So Morrigan would be there as possible returning romance or new Flemeth
Leliana could return  same with Alistair/ Loghain if they are alive.

For all others they could make just notes in game like :
Zevran died from hands of assasins,  Sten becommed chief of his tribe, Wyne passed etc and just make new characters.

Yes, but that would be terrible! Why on earth would they make a canon ending? Speaking as someone who's main character definitely did not go with Morrigan's ritual, I'd rather not see everything I did in the first game retconned. I don't see why it would be so hard to pull a Mass Effect and import your choices.

Well DAO2 could have entire new story also but they would need to close the holes in  ending of current DAO in expansion.
If you chossed that your warden refused Dark ritual as i see it for that warden game ended ,  youre buried in ground what you expect more,    there is not much story for game to continue.

And  for Dark ritual part there is big hole left to close it,    what will be with Morrigans child ,   will be evil or not, etc.

So yeh Dark ritual story will continue sooner or later either in expansion or in DAO 2 ( thats why i see it as canon ending )

Modifié par Phantom_1, 04 mars 2010 - 05:23 .

[Nhadalie]

If you go by the notes of Arl Foreshadow. It sounds more like an adventure in Orlais with Morrigan's child. Or perhaps the Warden has to go to Orlais for some reason, and more people end up pregnant and having children.

[Aybeden]

shedevil3001 wrote...

i hope that whatever they do, that they include more romance options maybe a happy ending and for god sake return our companions along with some new faces

Agreed!

[Thalorin1919]

Personally I want more expansions that will continue the story of Origins. Such as Morrigan, cleansing the deep roads of darkspawn, stuff like that.



I think it would be better if they set DA2 in a new place, and dealing with something else. I dont want to deal with darkspawn all the time. Maybe war bewteen countries, or stuff like that. Plus I dont see how the writers could possibly transfer characters from DA to DA2 with all the possible different endings.

[Big_Chief]

Phantom_1 wrote...

Big_Chief wrote...

Phantom_1 wrote...

casedawgz wrote...

I'm sure that a suitable amount of time will pass so as to render all choices moot. With ME2 it was doable, but there's just way to much stuff for DA2 to deal with importing.

Dont think is that hard to implement.
They would need to base DAO2 on canon ending and assume our warden did accepted dark ritual.
They would need to return main characters of game:
So Morrigan would be there as possible returning romance or new Flemeth
Leliana could return  same with Alistair/ Loghain if they are alive.

For all others they could make just notes in game like :
Zevran died from hands of assasins,  Sten becommed chief of his tribe, Wyne passed etc and just make new characters.

Yes, but that would be terrible! Why on earth would they make a canon ending? Speaking as someone who's main character definitely did not go with Morrigan's ritual, I'd rather not see everything I did in the first game retconned. I don't see why it would be so hard to pull a Mass Effect and import your choices.

Well DAO2 could have entire new story also but they would need to close the holes in  ending of current DAO in expansion.
If you chossed that your warden refused Dark ritual as i see it for that warden game ended ,  youre buried in ground what you expect more,    there is not much story for game to continue.

And  for Dark ritual part there is big hole left to close it,    what will be with Morrigans child ,   will be evil or not, etc.

So yeh Dark ritual story will continue sooner or later either in expansion or in DAO 2 ( thats why i see it as canon ending )

The only real problem with that is that my warden isn't buried in the ground. Loghain took the final blow and died, and my character is still alive. For those who took Morrigan's offer, sure, that plot element will probably be big in the future, but there are characters that didn't go through with it and still have a character alive at the end. All I'm saying is I want to see my own choices reflected as much as you want yours.

[Aybeden]

shedevil3001 wrote...

i hope that whatever they do, that they include more romance options maybe a happy ending and for god sake return our companions along with some new faces

Agreed!

We also need to properly take forward and complete those parts of the Origins story that remain before we jump too far into the future. At the same time we can be developing a new but linked storyline to take us into the future, but with the start of the new story overlapping with the old and ensuring some continuity. What I personally don't want to see is a sudden jump into the future involving a time gap and/or the abandonment of everything to date. The loss of our companions and the key element of romance from Awakening has been a huge disappointment to some of us and while it is just an expansion it has made me for one keen to see things put right again. It is hopefully going to be DA2, not distant cousin of DA.

As for specifics, I'll try to toss a few rough-and-ready quick ideas in now and maybe add more later. I'm sure some could be combined into a bigger story:

Extended completions:

* The Morrigan and Child story - which might also be a lead into a new story.

* Visit to Orlais with Lelianda to prove that she was framed and isn't a traitor - catch up with Marjolaine - confrontations with asassins and/or chevaliers.  Be nice to see Val Royaux too. Later in story perhaps have child who will eventually grow up to be a new hero we play in a future sequel or an important character - could even lead on to DA3. No forced separations please in view of what the epilogue says regarding surviving romanced characters and Leliana in particular. Not too much religion, and in any case there was the option in Origins to convince her via dialogue after her personal quest  to be herself and forget the Chantry.

* Visit Antiva with Zevran etc. etc.

* Visit Qunari homeland with Sten etc.

* Trevinter Imperium with Shale and/or Wynne - and a quest to save Wynne's life etc.

* Rebuilding of The Circle and reconciling the Templars one way or another.

* Add the new Awakening companions (or some of them) to the surviving Origin ones and make them equally romanceable.

* New warden bases - rebuilding etc.

New:

Morrigan's child - maybe meet up with successor to Darkspawn who enter to fill the space left by their defeat - or return of Darkspawn - on th eother hand maybe the child won't necessarily be all bad and being half-human (or elf or...) be another Morrigan type character as it grows up - maybe have morrigan protecting it  at first, so it can grow up?

New dark invasions, return of blight or something entirely new.

Modifié par Aybeden, 04 mars 2010 - 07:35 .

[Phantom_1]

Big_Chief wrote...

Phantom_1 wrote...

Big_Chief wrote...

Phantom_1 wrote...

casedawgz wrote...

I'm sure that a suitable amount of time will pass so as to render all choices moot. With ME2 it was doable, but there's just way to much stuff for DA2 to deal with importing.

Dont think is that hard to implement.
They would need to base DAO2 on canon ending and assume our warden did accepted dark ritual.
They would need to return main characters of game:
So Morrigan would be there as possible returning romance or new Flemeth
Leliana could return  same with Alistair/ Loghain if they are alive.

For all others they could make just notes in game like :
Zevran died from hands of assasins,  Sten becommed chief of his tribe, Wyne passed etc and just make new characters.

Yes, but that would be terrible! Why on earth would they make a canon ending? Speaking as someone who's main character definitely did not go with Morrigan's ritual, I'd rather not see everything I did in the first game retconned. I don't see why it would be so hard to pull a Mass Effect and import your choices.

Well DAO2 could have entire new story also but they would need to close the holes in  ending of current DAO in expansion.
If you chossed that your warden refused Dark ritual as i see it for that warden game ended ,  youre buried in ground what you expect more,    there is not much story for game to continue.

And  for Dark ritual part there is big hole left to close it,    what will be with Morrigans child ,   will be evil or not, etc.

So yeh Dark ritual story will continue sooner or later either in expansion or in DAO 2 ( thats why i see it as canon ending )

The only real problem with that is that my warden isn't buried in the ground. Loghain took the final blow and died, and my character is still alive. For those who took Morrigan's offer, sure, that plot element will probably be big in the future, but there are characters that didn't go through with it and still have a character alive at the end. All I'm saying is I want to see my own choices reflected as much as you want yours.

I can understand your point ,   but well Morrigan child theme could continue coz is open story and unfinished yet with or without warden which accepted Dark Ritual.
I dont see point of continuing story for GW without doing dark ritual coz as story goes i think all was said in first part of DAO.

[Lady Jess]

Ceridraen wrote...

Given how they're handling this expansion, I'd guess it somehow involves Morrigan's demon baby, & a 'next generation' set of players/npcs, rather than any of those we currently have. Sometime in about 20-30 years, game time. (iow, when the demon seed hits The Age of Interest) You might even BE Morrigan's baby, I suppose. Not a horrible idea, actually - the next generation of Grey Wardens. After all, even if you choose the US ending (which they seem to be disavowing with this exp), she seems to be pregnant at the end. (maybe that's the point of Riordan? An excuse as to how she found a tainted man at the last minute? Annoying, if so, in that she could have slept with *him* - too old though she said he was - rather than my elf's boyfriend! But that would be possible.

Morrigan will be the New Flemeth. That's my guess. I'd love her to be the mother of the next PC - but that's probably too much to hope.

Atually she isn't always with child in the epilogue. if you play a female and refuse the ritual, play a male and never sleep with her (and refuse the ritual) theres no mention of a child in the end.

[darkmax1974]

Things I would love to see in DA2



1. A higher rating. I know for sure many playing the games aren't even of the age required.



2. Morrigan + baby. Who said anything about the baby being a demon? Morrigan was the poster girl for DA:O, so there should be a closure on her side of the story.



3. Orlais. I am sick of Ferelden, please send us somewhere else, like Orlais or further North.



4. Leliana. Well, this one is for the rest of the fanboys and girls. Personally I do not favor her, like Oghren.



5. Dragons. Would love to see and fight more dragons.



6. Sea adventure. Would love to at least be adventuring a short section in the waters between the lands.



7. Bringing in more histories of the lands.

[Giltspur]

It's true that there's an ending where she isn't with child. In that ending she is in Orlais though. No matter what, she's moving toward or is in Orlais. Orlais is the region that has the most connection to Ferelden. So it would be pretty surprising if DA2 is anywhere other than Orlais.



Whether it picks up with the Warden or skips forward a bit is harder to predict. Personally I'd prefer to keep the current Warden and have some of the DAO characters cross paths again.



I focus on Morrigan because she seems to be the one with the most potential for future character development.

[darrylzero]

I wonder how well the Grey Wardens, Flemeth, or anyone else really understands what actually happens when a Grey Warden kills an archdemon that is different from when someone else does. I think one of the great strengths of Thedas is that no one has a monopoly on interpreting these events. Is it about a soul? Who is to say that either archdemons or Grey Warden's possess souls? We have trouble answering questions like this in the real world, and Thedas is supposed to be similar in that regard.



Now, I see no real reason to question Morrigan's account of what the Dark Ritual will do, but I wonder if this might leave them some room for establishing a canon ending that doesn't run totally roughshod over those who chose the Ultimate Sacrifice ending. In my opinion, it would be a colossal waste not to use Morrigan's child as a plot point in a future game or expansion, but some ambiguity over whether or not this child in fact possesses the soul of an Old God, whatever that means, might be helpful.



Recall this: Morrigan leaves before the battle if you do not agree to the Dark Ritual. If she has a backup plan, perhaps involving Riordan or perhaps involving a more intensive or dangerous ritual, she may not know exactly what happens in the final showdown with the archdemon. Moreover, she may not be entirely sure of the results of the Dark Ritual, either. She may know that no Warden was destroyed when the archdemon was killed, but how sure can she really be that this means that her unborn child now has the soul of an Old God? How much can she trust Flemeth's interpretation?



In fact, I can't see her being 100% sure in either case. Moreover, who is to say she would explain any of this to the child? So, I hope we see Morrigan's baby, and I hope it's not entirely clear whether or not this individual has the soul of an Old God. My preference would be for the child to be a companion, whose own reliability, trustworthiness and "goodness" are a little unclear. I think there is a lot of space for a well-crafted, ambiguous backstory and a very interesting, flawed, dangerous companion there.