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[Yantze]

DaeJi wrote...

Yantze wrote...

Paragons all over this place

I remember, when talking about Fable 2, that Peter Molyneux said something like 89% of Fable players were good guys. People like being heroes. Also, people are posting their main Shepards. I have a male renegade sentinel that I didn't post because my girl is who I play the most.

I know there mains. Im just saying everybody loves being Paragon as their main. I was in the 11% for Fable haha. I base all my choices off how I would personally. I end up with full Renegade but still a very large chunk of paragon.

[CmdrFenix83]

After playing through ME2 with my pure paragon characters, I have to say, they've *really* stacked the deck in making every major paragon choice the one that result in a better galaxy overall. It's a bit sickening that the purely idealistic characters never get bitten for their compassion at all.

[razerdoh]

Name: John  Shepard
Gender: Male
class: Soldier
History: Earth Born, Sole survivor

Alignment ME1: Paragon
Alignment ME2: Paragon

The Rachni: Lived
Wrex: Lived
Sacrificed on Vermire: Ashley
The Council: Lived
Human Councilor: Anderson

Tali: Isn't exiled
The Geth Heretics: Destroyed
The Collector's base: Destroyed
Casulties on suicide mission: None, all crew members survived
Love Interrest ME1: Liara
Love Interrest ME2: None

[Bootsykk]

Luc0s wrote...

Juneya wrote...

Luc0s wrote...

Juneya wrote...

Fate of the Krogans: Cured Genophage

Wait, you can actually cure the genophage in ME2? How!?!?!

Mordin's mission.

It never says specifically if you cured it... but you can take the cure created by Mordin's colleague and suggest that Mordin use it to help the Krogan.

Afterwards, in the mission log screen, it says that the Krogan could be useful against the reapers as shock troopers if they were to have enough numbers. So the cure is implied.

I took the cure data with me (though I support the genophage), but Mordin clearly said that his student's work was FAR from completed and there is still a LONG way to go before they can actually create a cure for the genophage.

I know. But the whole shock trooper thing is implied that by ME3 there is a high possibility that Mordin will have created a cure; or at least a way to limit the effects of the Genophage.

Did you choose the option, "You should help the Krogan"?

 A-ha. This is the dialogue option that gets you the 'Krogan Shock Trooper' mission log.

Modifié par Juneya, 17 février 2010 - 02:34 .

[Randy1012]

CmdrFenix83 wrote...

After playing through ME2 with my pure paragon characters, I have to say, they've *really* stacked the deck in making every major paragon choice the one that result in a better galaxy overall. It's a bit sickening that the purely idealistic characters never get bitten for their compassion at all.

I know, who would have thought that not being a **** to everyone would make things better?

People are more willing to follow a benevolent leader than one who rules through fear.

[kraidy1117]

Name: Joshua Shepard

Gender: Male

class: Soldier

History: Spacer, War-Hero



Alignment ME1: Paragon

Alignment ME2: Paragon



The Rachni: Lived

Wrex: Lived

Sacrificed on Vermire: Kaiden

The Council: Lived

Human Councilor: Anderson



Tali: Isn't exiled

The Geth Heretics: Re-programmed

The Collector's base: Destroyed

Casulties on suicide mission: None



Love Interrest ME1: Ashley

Love Interrest ME2: Miranda

[Internet Kraken]

CmdrFenix83 wrote...

After playing through ME2 with my pure paragon characters, I have to say, they've *really* stacked the deck in making every major paragon choice the one that result in a better galaxy overall. It's a bit sickening that the purely idealistic characters never get bitten for their compassion at all.

I have a bad feeling that the reprogramming of the heretics will come back to bite paragons in the ass.

[CmdrFenix83]

Randy1083 wrote...

CmdrFenix83 wrote...

After playing through ME2 with my pure paragon characters, I have to say, they've *really* stacked the deck in making every major paragon choice the one that result in a better galaxy overall. It's a bit sickening that the purely idealistic characters never get bitten for their compassion at all.

I know, who would have thought that not being a **** to everyone would make things better?

People are more willing to follow a benevolent leader than one who rules through fear.

I play diplomatic characters and almost entirely paragon ones.  I don't have a single Renegade, I can't stomach being a random ****** to everyone I run into.  However, some of these 'big choices' are essentially supporting the idealistic and naive.  Sometimes letting bad things live comes back to bite you in the ass.  Yet in ME2, zero of the paragon choices had a negative result.  Everything ended up with rainbows and flowers and happy, happy times. 

If it continues, come ME3, the pure-paragon characters(ones that blindly take the blue or top-right options each time) will have a galaxy that has every race sitting around singing 'Kumbaya' together.  They really penalyze you for taking any choice that isn't purely paragon, even if it's more prudent and realistic given the circumstances around it.

[Bootsykk]

Luc0s wrote...

Juneya wrote...

Luc0s wrote...

Juneya wrote...

Luc0s wrote...

Juneya wrote...

Fate of the Krogans: Cured Genophage

Wait, you can actually cure the genophage in ME2? How!?!?!

Mordin's mission.

It never says specifically if you cured it... but you can take the cure created by Mordin's colleague and suggest that Mordin use it to help the Krogan.

Afterwards, in the mission log screen, it says that the Krogan could be useful against the reapers as shock troopers if they were to have enough numbers. So the cure is implied.

I took the cure data with me (though I support the genophage), but Mordin clearly said that his student's work was FAR from completed and there is still a LONG way to go before they can actually create a cure for the genophage.

I know. But the whole shock trooper thing is implied that by ME3 there is a high possibility that Mordin will have created a cure; or at least a way to limit the effects of the Genophage.

Did you choose the option, "You should help the Krogan"?

I don't remember. But it ended something like: "I support the genophage, but it's better to not let this cure-data go to waste, it might come in handy later if ever needed."

 Here you go. This has the "You should help the Krogan" dialogue.
In the mission summary, it states that when a cure is found it could be used to gain the alleigance of the Krogan against the Reapers, and how their numbers would be useful against such a threat.

EDIT: and yeah, Mordin does say, "still years away from a cure", but since he survived I'm pretty sure that ME3 will have some note of persuading Mordin to research a cure.

2ND EDIT: Pause at 8:34, and you'll see what I mean.

Modifié par Juneya, 17 février 2010 - 02:39 .

[Randy1012]

CmdrFenix83 wrote...

Randy1083 wrote...

CmdrFenix83 wrote...

After playing through ME2 with my pure paragon characters, I have to say, they've *really* stacked the deck in making every major paragon choice the one that result in a better galaxy overall. It's a bit sickening that the purely idealistic characters never get bitten for their compassion at all.

I know, who would have thought that not being a **** to everyone would make things better?

People are more willing to follow a benevolent leader than one who rules through fear.

I play diplomatic characters and almost entirely paragon ones.  I don't have a single Renegade, I can't stomach being a random ****** to everyone I run into.  However, some of these 'big choices' are essentially supporting the idealistic and naive.  Sometimes letting bad things live comes back to bite you in the ass.  Yet in ME2, zero of the paragon choices had a negative result.  Everything ended up with rainbows and flowers and happy, happy times. 

If it continues, come ME3, the pure-paragon characters(ones that blindly take the blue or top-right options each time) will have a galaxy that has every race sitting around singing 'Kumbaya' together.  They really penalyze you for taking any choice that isn't purely paragon, even if it's more prudent and realistic given the circumstances around it.

I do kind of agree. I have four Shepards; one is pure Paragon and one is pure Renegade, while the other two are a little more ambiguous. One is mostly Paragon but has some slight Renegade tendencies (such as sacrificing the Council to save the Alliance fleet for Sovereign), while one is mostly Renegade but has some Paragon tendencies (such as saving the Council in order to preserve long-term galactic stability).

Modifié par Randy1083, 17 février 2010 - 02:42 .

[Vamp44]

Name: John Shepard
Gender: Male
class: Infiltrator
History: Earthborn; Ruthless

Alignment ME1: Renegade
Alignment ME2: Renegade

The Rachni: Died
Wrex: Lived
Sacrificed on Vermire: Kaiden
The Council: Died
Human Councilor: Udina

Tali:  Isn't exiled..turned in evidence
The Geth Heretics: Re-programmed
The Collector's base: Kept
Casulties on suicide mission: Tali

Love Interrest ME1: Ashley
Love Interrest ME2: Miranda

[dreman9999]

Meet Apollo Sheperd 1st Play through.

He's a Paragon soul survivor spacer with some roguish tendencies. A ladies man and trickster who's always charming.
His cl-ass is Vanguard and fight in a very strategic offencive **** He uses his high attack power to precisely crush his enemies.
Romance:First Liara. Currently:Tali.
.........
Asia Sheperd 2nd/Current Play though

She's a was renegade colonist with a ruthless reputation.(And yes she did take part it "Bring down the sky". She hates Bartarians.)Now she's balanced because she turned down the Illusive man. She was alway on the line of Paragon  and Renegade but always mostly Renegade.
She's a powerful Adept who uses he overwhelming force to crush her enemies from a distance. Many Krogan foolishly try to over run her only to find them selves flung over the nearest cliff.
She is a surprisingly kind person but with an intense anger issues which she constantly tries to control. (And many times fail.)
She a very straight up and frank woman.
Romance:1st Kaiden. Currently:Garrus.(Kaiden need to grow some, and a turian surprisely is a real man.)

[CmdrFenix83]

Randy1083 wrote...

I do kind of agree. I have four Shepards; one is pure Paragon and one is pure Renegade, while the other two are a little more ambiguous. One is mostly Paragon but has some slight Renegade tendencies (such as sacrificing the Council to save the Alliance fleet for Sovereign), while one is mostly Renegade but has some Paragon tendencies (such as saving the Council in order to preserve long-term galactic stability).

That's really my only point.  Why bother doing anything but taking the paragon options when they're *always* the better results?  No negative consequences came from a single one of them in ME1, none.

[Crackseed]

Name: Atasuke  Shepard
Gender: Male
class: Soldier
History: Earth Born, War Hero

Alignment ME1: Paragon
Alignment ME2: Paragon

The Rachni: Lived
Wrex: Lived
Sacrificed on Vermire: Kaidan
The Council: Lived
Human Councilor: Anderson

Tali: Isn't exiled
The Geth Heretics: Re-written
The Collector's base: Destroyed
Casulties on suicide mission: None
Love Interest ME1: Liara
Love Interest ME2: Tali

Modifié par crackseed, 17 février 2010 - 02:50 .

[Marilynn-22]

Name: Marilynn Shepard

Gender: Female

class: Infiltrator

History: Earthborn, Sole Survivor



Alignment ME1: Mixed

Alignment ME2: Mixed



The Rachni: Lived

Wrex: Lived

Sacrificed on Vermire: Ashley(Regret that)

The Council: Lived

Human Councilor: Anderson



Tali: Isn't exiled

The Geth Heretics: Re-programmed

The Collector's base: Destroyed

Casulties on suicide mission: None



Love Interrest ME1: None

Love Interrest ME2: Garrus

[jasonontko]

Name: Jason Shepard

Gender: Male

class: Soldier

History: Earth Born, Sole Survivor



Alignment ME1: Renegade

Alignment ME2: Paragon



Rachni: Dead

Wrex: Lived

Sacrificed on Virmire: Kaidan

Council: Lived

Human Councilor: Anderson



Tali: Not exiled

Geth Heretics: Reprogrammed

Collector Base: Saved

ME2 Casualties: None



ME1 Love Interest: Ashley

ME2 Love Interest: Miranda

[Akrylik]

Name: *stupid name goes here* Shepard

Gender: Male

class: Vanguard

History: Earthborn, Sole Survivor



Alignment ME1: Paragon

Alignment ME2: Paragon (but i will press RT, i can't resist)



Rachni: Lived

Wrex: Lived

Sacrificed on Virmire: Kaidan

Council: Died

Human Councilor: Anderson



Tali: Not exiled

Heretics: Reprogrammed

Collector Base: exploded

ME2 casualties: Grunt



ME1 LI: None

ME2 LI: Tali



aww cmon, you're all justa buncha of suicide mission cheaters...

[Shadow-Novus]

Name: Shane Shepard
Gender: Male
class: Infiltrator
History: Spacer, War-Hero

Alignment ME1: Paragon
Alignment ME2: Paragon

The Rachni: Lived
Wrex: Lived
Sacrificed on Virmire: Ashley
The Council: Lived
Human Councilor: Anderson

Tali: Isn't exiled
The Geth Heretics: Re-programmed
The Collector's Base: Destroyed
Casulties On Suicide Mission: None

Love Interrest ME1: None
Love Interrest ME2: Tali

Modifié par Shadow-Novus, 17 février 2010 - 03:13 .

[Urazz]

Here is my main Shepard that I will be transferring to ME3. I did a new playthrough with my level 60 ME1 Shepard before ME2 came out when I heard there were more love interests in it and didn't want to 'cheat' on Ashley (though with the way it was handled in ME2 I wouldn't call it cheating with the way she treated my Shepard when I used my very 1st ME1 playthrough.)



Name: John Shepard

Gender: Male

class: Soldier

History: Earthborn, Sole Survivor



Alignment ME1: Paragon (though I was a dick to people)

Alignement ME2: Paragon (I guess I did a balanced playthrough for the most part)



Rachni: Alive

Wrex: Lived

Sacrificed on Virmire: Kaiden

Council: Dead

Human Councilor: Anderson



Tali: Not exiled (used renegade persuasion choice)



Geth Heretics: Destroyed

Collector Base: Destroyed

ME2 Casualties: None



ME1 LI: none



ME2 LI: Miranda

[jasonontko]

CmdrFenix83 wrote...

Randy1083 wrote...

I do kind of agree. I have four Shepards; one is pure Paragon and one is pure Renegade, while the other two are a little more ambiguous. One is mostly Paragon but has some slight Renegade tendencies (such as sacrificing the Council to save the Alliance fleet for Sovereign), while one is mostly Renegade but has some Paragon tendencies (such as saving the Council in order to preserve long-term galactic stability).

That's really my only point.  Why bother doing anything but taking the paragon options when they're *always* the better results?  No negative consequences came from a single one of them in ME1, none.

 
Totally agree.  There is no second or third order consequences to Paragon choices in ME2 and its not looking good for ME3.  All the a Krogan knows is war, after the Reapers they will start fighting again no matter what the writers dream up.   The Rachni was utterly co-opted by the reapers and what is to prevent that again.  The Geth was reprogrammed once by the Reapers want is to prevent that again.  We do not have the tech at the end of ME2 to kill thousands of reaper yet the Paragon blow up the only tech we have now that could stop them, the only chance to research defenses against indoctrination, the only proof that can not be ignored by the council.  Now I can see all these events going both ways easily but the writers seem intent on protecting the Paragons from the consequences of their decisions.  

[GOINxPOSTAl]

Name: Marcus Shepard
Gender: male
class: sentinel
History: spacer, war hero

Alignment ME1: Paragon
Alignment ME2: Paragon

The Rachni: Lived
Wrex: Lived
Sacrificed on Vermire: Kaiden
The Council: Lived
Human Councilor: Anderson

Tali: Not exiled
The Geth Heretics: virused
The Collector's Base: Destroyed
Casulties On Suicide Mission: None

Love Interrest ME1: Liara
Love Interrest ME2: Tail

[DalishRanger]

(Used an ME1 screencap because I don't have ME2 on the PC, only Xbox)

Name: Hasani Shepard
Gender: Male
class: Infiltrator
History: Earthborn, Sole Survivor

Alignment ME1: 1/2 Renegade, 3/4 Paragon
Alignment ME2: 50% Renegade, 100% Paragon

The Rachni: Exterminated
Wrex: Lived
Sacrificed on Vermire: Kaiden
The Council: Died
Human Councilor: Anderson

Tali: Isn't exiled
The Geth Heretics: Destroyed
The Collector's base: Destroyed
Casulties on suicide mission: None

Love Interrest ME1: Ashley
Love Interrest ME2: Ashley/Stayed loyal

Modifié par DalishRanger, 17 février 2010 - 03:24 .

[Ashwraith]

Name: Vielle (“Vi”) Shepard

Gender: Female

class: Infiltrator

History: Colonist/Sole Survivor



Alignment ME1: Paragade

Alignment ME2: Renegade (with a few Paragon points; I’d say ‘Renagon’
but man does that sound lame.)



The Rachni: Freed ‘em.

Wrex: Alive and well.

Sacrificed on Virmire: Ashley

The Council: Lived

Human Councilor: Anderson (honestly, did anyone pick Udina?)



Tali: Was exonerated after I screamed in the Admiralty Board’s face for
a bit. Muahaha.

The Geth Heretics: Reprogammed

The Collector's base: Turned over to Cerberus

Casulties on suicide mission: Jack, on the first playthrough. No one, on the second.



Love Interrest ME1: None.

Love Interrest ME2: See above. At least in-game. In my head is another story.
....
No I'm not going to tell you. >.>

Modifié par Ashwraith, 17 février 2010 - 03:30 .

[luk3us]

Name:  Lara Shepard
Gender: Female
class: Vangaurd
History: Spacer, Ruthless

Alignment ME1: Renegade
Alignment ME2: Renegade

The Rachni: Lived
Wrex: Lived
Sacrificed on Vermire: Kaiden
The Council: Dead

Tali: Isn't exiled
The Geth Heretics: Re-programmed
The Collector's base: Kept
Casulties on suicide mission: None

Love Interrest ME1: Liara
Love Interrest ME2: None Kelly!