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Did anyone compile any/all characters that could die in ME2 while still capable of beating the game?  Im curious to see who will probably be in ME3.  I think characters that "could" die while still beating the game probably are not going to be written into ME3 as a squadmate. 

[Keithhy]

Tali will live. I guarantee it. Or she will if you're even halfway decent. But as to what you asked, anyone except Joker and EDI can die, but Shepard will survive so long as at least one other team-mate does.

Modifié par Keithhy, 17 février 2010 - 08:40 .

[Cutlass Jack]

Everyone 'could' die in ME2 except Joker & EDI. Even Dr. Chakwas could die.

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either tali or legion could die in the engine explosion. so if your tali lives I doubt she'll be your squadmate. Just like kaiden or Ashley in ME1

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could you beat the game with everyone dead?? and just you joker and edi? haha if thats the case then none of your squadmates will probably make it on your squad in ME3

[Cutlass Jack]

EA_BiowareAccount wrote...

could you beat the game with everyone dead?? and just you joker and edi? haha if thats the case then none of your squadmates will probably make it on your squad in ME3

You can't beat the game with everyone dead. You die if none of your other squadmates survive. But any of your squadmates can die based on your bad decision through the course of the game. Not one of them is 100% guaranteed to live.

[HomicidialFrog]

Liara will be in there, she's played a huge role in the story so far:

Without Liara, Shepard would be screwed because he wouldn't know where the Conduit is and Saren would then succeed in releasing the Reapers and BAM! Theres goes all organic life, just like that.

Without Liara, Shepard would still be dead since it was her who didn't give up on him/her while the rest of the crew just moved on as if nothing happened. And once again BAM! just like that the Reapers take over and the Collecters was never destroyed.

She seems to have become an incredibly powerful biotic in ME2 so she'll be a valueable squadmate.an die

And she is the only squaddie in ME1 and ME2 that can't die no matter what, every other squadmate no matter who they are can die, so she will be in everyone's game in ME3 and ME2.

Any Liara fans like myself can be assured Liara is definatly a squaddie in the next game since she's like the 2nd most important character in the story.

Modifié par HomicidialFrog, 17 février 2010 - 08:40 .

[DarthCaine]

Everyone can potentially die

[Cutlass Jack]

Lets not get into the Liara importance argument here again. Wasn't really what the OP was asking since she wasn't a squadmate on the Suicide mission.

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I agree, I think Liara is an obvious squadmate for ME3.

DarthCaine: Thanks, I know everyone can die but if shephard dies then no port to ME3.

I guess I would want to know the spoilers for how all the characters can die? and if there was anyone who beat the game losing their entire squad?  And if all squadmates are potential deaths than I highly doubt they will be squadmates in ME3.

Cutlass Jack answered my question tho, thanks

Modifié par EA_BiowareAccount, 17 février 2010 - 08:50 .

[Cutlass Jack]

EA_BiowareAccount wrote...

I guess I would want to know the spoilers for how all the characters can die? and if there was anyone who beat the game losing their entire squad?  And if all squadmates are potential deaths than I highly doubt they will be squadmates in ME3.

Killing them is easy. Just make stupid choices. Like not upgrading your starship kills off random people before you even land at the base. Put a non-techie in the tube, or poor leader for the Fire Team and more people die. Pick a weak biotic to do the shield? More deaths.

Shepard dies if the whole squad dies though. Since they're all dead, Joker has to try and pull you onto the Normandy. That goes poorly. Death by Vrolik's Syndrome. So at least one other squadmate has to survive.

[themightyshephard]

Liara has a job to do, she's tracking down the shadowbroker and i expect a big confrontation in Mass effect 3, She will have probably join your squad and take him on together.

[stillnotking]

Every potential squadmate in both games, EXCEPT Liara, can die. She is the most likely to return as a squadmate in ME3 (although most of them will likely return in cameo roles, like Wrex's in ME2, assuming they are not dead in your game).

Modifié par stillnotking, 17 février 2010 - 08:58 .

[ComTrav]

You cannot import ME2 to ME3 if Shepard dies.



I've seen saves with only two loyal squadmates, so that seems to be the minimum.

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I might try and beat the game with minamal amount of ship upgrades (or none) and team mates on normal difficulty

[enormousmoonboots]

I'd put highest odds on Tali and Garrus returning, thanks to their fan favorite status; not to mention, Garrus has literally nothing else to do but go fight some Reapers with you. Most everyone else has some kind of racial/familial/professional obligation that could potentially send them somewhere else, but not Garrus. He's a bro like that.

[tykfa1990]

Agreed, actually from ME2 normandy only Joker surviwes everything ( of course if you move him fast enough in the 2-nd normandy attack, if not, watch youtube ). But I strongly belive that the ME3 Squad would be compiled by the player himself. I mean, everyone from the ME1 and ME2 survivors would be able to join team. But probably we could not take them all anyway. I think BW will do it that way: you have to recruit everyone who you did not in ME2, then youll probably chose the ultimate squad of your choice to join Normandy, and the others will also do their role, but from the 2-nd ground of the story, alike if you choose grunt for Normandy's team, then Wrex will lead Urdnot's to fight, or quite opposite. What do you think about that?

[Alamar2078]

I like the idea of choice. Being able to recruit any former teammate would be great but also having some tradeoffs as other posters have mentioned. Sure you could recruit Wrex but who is going to lead the Krogan? If you don't choose Legion then who is going to be the Geth Ambassador or at least give the Geth data to build a consensus that you'd like to see ....

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tykfa1990 wrote...

Agreed, actually from ME2 normandy only Joker surviwes everything ( of course if you move him fast enough in the 2-nd normandy attack, if not, watch youtube ). But I strongly belive that the ME3 Squad would be compiled by the player himself. I mean, everyone from the ME1 and ME2 survivors would be able to join team. But probably we could not take them all anyway. I think BW will do it that way: you have to recruit everyone who you did not in ME2, then youll probably chose the ultimate squad of your choice to join Normandy, and the others will also do their role, but from the 2-nd ground of the story, alike if you choose grunt for Normandy's team, then Wrex will lead Urdnot's to fight, or quite opposite. What do you think about that?

I really like your idea but I think it isnt feasible to do.  That is a lot of lines of dialogue for characters who might not be in your ME3 universe.  It was convienient for Morinth to be able to speak like Samara to save on one line of character dialogue while in combat or on planets.  The game designers would have to make all the possible movements of characters as well as art designers making details on each character.  Thats why my theory is that any charcter that could die will not be your squad mate in ME3

[Talogrungi]

My theory:

There will be a canon of survivors for a fresh (no import) ME3 game.
Those who survive in an import but die in the canon will get Wrex-style cameos.
Those who die in an import but survive in the canon will simply be unrecruitable.
There will be new squadmates to round out the team.
Liara will return as a squadmate.
The Virmire survivor will return as a squadmate.
All the plot characters (Joker, EDI, Anderson, etc) will return.

[AddoExAtrum]

EA_BiowareAccount wrote...

tykfa1990 wrote...

Agreed, actually from ME2 normandy only Joker surviwes everything ( of course if you move him fast enough in the 2-nd normandy attack, if not, watch youtube ). But I strongly belive that the ME3 Squad would be compiled by the player himself. I mean, everyone from the ME1 and ME2 survivors would be able to join team. But probably we could not take them all anyway. I think BW will do it that way: you have to recruit everyone who you did not in ME2, then youll probably chose the ultimate squad of your choice to join Normandy, and the others will also do their role, but from the 2-nd ground of the story, alike if you choose grunt for Normandy's team, then Wrex will lead Urdnot's to fight, or quite opposite. What do you think about that?

I really like your idea but I think it isnt feasible to do.  That is a lot of lines of dialogue for characters who might not be in your ME3 universe.  It was convienient for Morinth to be able to speak like Samara to save on one line of character dialogue while in combat or on planets.  The game designers would have to make all the possible movements of characters as well as art designers making details on each character.  Thats why my theory is that any charcter that could die will not be your squad mate in ME3

Bah, its not like the Normandy is going to get blown up again and everyone spaced. I think your going to have the same crew from ME2 with possibly 2 characters from ME1 being added Ash/Liara or Kaiden/Liara depending on if you imported your ME1 to ME2 and then ME2 to ME3 or if your just starting a fresh ME3 char. I highly doubt they are going to add any new crew thou just bring back the ME1 guys that left yer crew.

[Gill Kaiser]

I suspect that Bioware will pick and choose a few of the characters from ME2 to reappear, based upon their popularity. They'll probably also bring back Liara (almost certain), and maybe Ash/Kaidan. Add to that one or two new squadmates and you have a viable team no matter how terribly you did on the suicide mission.

[Cutlass Jack]

Gill Kaiser wrote...

I suspect that Bioware will pick and choose a few of the characters from ME2 to reappear, based upon their popularity. They'll probably also bring back Liara (almost certain), and maybe Ash/Kaidan. Add to that one or two new squadmates and you have a viable team no matter how terribly you did on the suicide mission.

That's my theory as well. At the very least they'd be highly stupid to not have Tali/Garrus as potential squadmates. Would really hurt their sales. But a chance to get the 'old team' together would be a huge selling point.

I personally think they should also have all other LI's back as well. Just good business sense. And would make for some truly memorable scenes when your ME1 LI comes back. They'd be fools to pass up that drama.

[ScriptDiver]

The problem is, and I think it has been mentioned before, the amount of developer work that goes into the creation of a squadmate. They already have Kaidan/Ashley and if they want him/her as a squaddie in ME3 they already have dual the workload.



In ME2 everyone can die, and so keeping them all, or even a few of them, as recruitables in ME3 will quadruple the workload or even worse. I'm not putting it beyond BioWare, but I find it extremely unlikely. No matter what the fanbois cry.



Creating a canon that says "these guys survived" (except for Shepard ofc) goes against the whole concept of the game and I sure hope they stay far, faaaar, away from that.



I would almost bet my right arm that the only thing we'll see ME2 squadmates in ME3 is as Wrex-style cameos.

[ScriptDiver]

Double post. Sorry.
 

Modifié par ScriptDiver, 17 février 2010 - 10:01 .