ME3 Theory Time: Shepard, escaped convict. - ME3 opening plot twist (& facial reconstruction).
#276
Posté 07 avril 2011 - 07:45
#277
Posté 07 avril 2011 - 07:52
#278
Posté 07 avril 2011 - 03:33
Akizora wrote...
For facial reconstruction I'd more or less consider a jailbreak with someone breaking you out in this case, so they enter a computer to find your cell and it goes into "Searching for prisoner..." and you fill in the details and face and it finds Shepard.
I've imagined it like some kind of gradual awakening after prison stasis: choosing gender, class, appearance. Between these scenes we play as rescuing team shutting down prison defence systems in order to release Shepard.
#279
Posté 07 avril 2011 - 07:14
The whole prison thing is just stupid. Bioware can easily give us a reason for Facial/class changes with out resorting to throwing Shepard in jail.Wizz wrote...
Akizora wrote...
For facial reconstruction I'd more or less consider a jailbreak with someone breaking you out in this case, so they enter a computer to find your cell and it goes into "Searching for prisoner..." and you fill in the details and face and it finds Shepard.
I've imagined it like some kind of gradual awakening after prison stasis: choosing gender, class, appearance. Between these scenes we play as rescuing team shutting down prison defence systems in order to release Shepard.
Mass Effect 3 should start with the Reaper Invasion.
Modifié par M8DMAN, 07 avril 2011 - 07:16 .
#280
Guest_Saphra Deden_*
Posté 07 avril 2011 - 07:17
Guest_Saphra Deden_*
That is so dumb.
#281
Posté 07 avril 2011 - 07:22
Saphra Deden wrote...
Why do we even need an in-game reason to change our class or appearance? Or to explain our level?
That is so dumb.
Because newcomers can't start with a mass amount of skillpoints to assign to various skills, they need to be eased into it so they aren't overwhelmed and scared away from game...because yes, even newcomers deserve to enjoy the game.
Modifié par Akizora, 07 avril 2011 - 07:22 .
#282
Guest_Saphra Deden_*
Posté 07 avril 2011 - 07:24
Guest_Saphra Deden_*
Akizora wrote...
Because newcomers can't start with a mass amount of skillpoints to assign to various skills, they need to be eased into it so they aren't overwhelmed and scared away from game...because yes, even newcomers deserve to enjoy the game.
You completely missed the point.
This is very frustrating for me, but I'm going to forge on ahead and try to explain this in simpler terms.
Shepard's appearance, class, and skill level, are not part of the story. Thus they need no explanation in the narrative. Just start the game, immediately begin with the character creation tool, and then start the story.
#283
Posté 07 avril 2011 - 07:26
Saphra Deden wrote...
Akizora wrote...
Because newcomers can't start with a mass amount of skillpoints to assign to various skills, they need to be eased into it so they aren't overwhelmed and scared away from game...because yes, even newcomers deserve to enjoy the game.
You completely missed the point.
This is very frustrating for me, but I'm going to forge on ahead and try to explain this in simpler terms.
Shepard's appearance, class, and skill level, are not part of the story. Thus they need no explanation in the narrative. Just start the game, immediately begin with the character creation tool, and then start the story.
But if newcomers start as anything other than level 1 they would be confused, as for your point about not needing an ingame reason to set the appearance and class and starting skill - I agree, it isn't necessary.
#284
Guest_Saphra Deden_*
Posté 07 avril 2011 - 07:28
Guest_Saphra Deden_*
Akizora wrote...
But if newcomers start as anything other than level 1 they would be confused, as for your point about not needing an ingame reason to set the appearance and class and starting skill - I agree, it isn't necessary.
Oh please, somebody shoot me now. Make the pain stop. I can't take this much longer.
START THE NEWCOMERS AT LEVEL 1 AND THE VETERANS AT LEVEL 5 OR SOME OTHER LEVEL, IT DOESN'T MATTER!
The point is, we don't need a story explanation for Shepard's level. That is gameplay. Gameplay and story are separate.
#285
Posté 07 avril 2011 - 07:32
Saphra Deden wrote...
Oh please, somebody shoot me now. Make the pain stop. I can't take this much longer.
START THE NEWCOMERS AT LEVEL 1 AND THE VETERANS AT LEVEL 5 OR SOME OTHER LEVEL, IT DOESN'T MATTER!
The point is, we don't need a story explanation for Shepard's level. That is gameplay. Gameplay and story are separate.
Still 'cinematic' changing of appearance is the style of Mass Effect. It's good for immersion.
#286
Posté 07 avril 2011 - 07:33
Saphra Deden wrote...
Akizora wrote...
But if newcomers start as anything other than level 1 they would be confused, as for your point about not needing an ingame reason to set the appearance and class and starting skill - I agree, it isn't necessary.
Oh please, somebody shoot me now. Make the pain stop. I can't take this much longer.
START THE NEWCOMERS AT LEVEL 1 AND THE VETERANS AT LEVEL 5 OR SOME OTHER LEVEL, IT DOESN'T MATTER!
The point is, we don't need a story explanation for Shepard's level. That is gameplay. Gameplay and story are separate.
I was assuming you meant start as the same level you were in ME2.
#287
Posté 07 avril 2011 - 07:34
It is more entertaining when they are.Saphra Deden wrote...
Shepard's appearance, class, and skill level, are not part of the story.
#288
Guest_Saphra Deden_*
Posté 07 avril 2011 - 07:36
Guest_Saphra Deden_*
#289
Posté 07 avril 2011 - 07:47
The trial is a very good twist. But BioWare is going to screw it up.
#290
Posté 07 avril 2011 - 07:52
Saphra Deden wrote...
Akizora wrote...
But if newcomers start as anything other than level 1 they would be confused, as for your point about not needing an ingame reason to set the appearance and class and starting skill - I agree, it isn't necessary.
Oh please, somebody shoot me now. Make the pain stop. I can't take this much longer.
START THE NEWCOMERS AT LEVEL 1 AND THE VETERANS AT LEVEL 5 OR SOME OTHER LEVEL, IT DOESN'T MATTER!
The point is, we don't need a story explanation for Shepard's level. That is gameplay. Gameplay and story are separate.
Hey, nobody's making you post here. If you can't handle other people's opinions - leave.
#291
Posté 07 avril 2011 - 07:52
I would like to know why you think BioWare is going to screw it up, Zulu.Zulu_DFA wrote...
That's a whole another matter.
The trial is a very good twist. But BioWare is going to screw it up.
#292
Posté 07 avril 2011 - 07:52
Zulu_DFA wrote...
That's a whole another matter.
The trial is a very good twist. But BioWare is going to screw it up.
Methinks you need some rose-colored sunglasses.
#293
Guest_Saphra Deden_*
Posté 07 avril 2011 - 07:57
Guest_Saphra Deden_*
Zulu_DFA wrote...
That's a whole another matter.
The trial is a very good twist. But BioWare is going to screw it up.
I agree, but I'm just saying the trial is useful for reasons that have nothing to do with resetting Shepard's appearance, level, or class.
It is far more important as a means of leaping forward in time a ways, or at least giving the writers the option.
#294
Posté 07 avril 2011 - 07:58
It's also an excellent way of recapping your previous actions and filling in the newbies.Saphra Deden wrote...
I agree, but I'm just saying the trial is useful for reasons that have nothing to do with resetting Shepard's appearance, level, or class.Zulu_DFA wrote...
That's a whole another matter.
The trial is a very good twist. But BioWare is going to screw it up.
It is far more important as a means of leaping forward in time a ways, or at least giving the writers the option.
#295
Posté 07 avril 2011 - 08:08
Because it seems they have married the idea of the trial to the idea of "visiting Earth at some point", which is a plot hole for the sake of fan service. This is about as bad as it can get... But in can get even worse. They'll probably use it to "amp things up" by making the Reapers invade during the trial (so no imprisonment among oter things).Fiery Phoenix wrote...
I would like to know why you think BioWare is going to screw it up, Zulu.Zulu_DFA wrote...
That's a whole another matter.
The trial is a very good twist. But BioWare is going to screw it up.
There is a thread I started about this. Must be on the first page.
#296
Posté 08 avril 2011 - 06:52
Zulu_DFA wrote...
Because it seems they have married the idea of the trial to the idea of "visiting Earth at some point", which is a plot hole for the sake of fan service. This is about as bad as it can get... But in can get even worse. They'll probably use it to "amp things up" by making the Reapers invade during the trial (so no imprisonment among oter things).Fiery Phoenix wrote...
I would like to know why you think BioWare is going to screw it up, Zulu.Zulu_DFA wrote...
That's a whole another matter.
The trial is a very good twist. But BioWare is going to screw it up.
There is a thread I started about this. Must be on the first page.
Yep.And Cerberus is out to kill Shepard. http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/103/index/6975892/14
Modifié par JamieCOTC, 08 avril 2011 - 06:52 .
#297
Posté 08 avril 2011 - 07:31
That's actually OK... as long as the explanation is given, why Cerberus wants to all of a sudden kill Shepard, and, more importantly, why doesn't TIM simply invite Shepard for a (poisoned) drink, which, for instance, *my* Shepard would be a lot more glad to come to, instead of a trial on the stupid Earth.JamieCOTC wrote...
Yep.And Cerberus is out to kill Shepard. http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/103/index/6975892/14Zulu_DFA wrote...
Because it seems they have married the idea of the trial to the idea of "visiting Earth at some point", which is a plot hole for the sake of fan service. This is about as bad as it can get... But in can get even worse. They'll probably use it to "amp things up" by making the Reapers invade during the trial (so no imprisonment among oter things).Fiery Phoenix wrote...
I would like to know why you think BioWare is going to screw it up, Zulu.Zulu_DFA wrote...
That's a whole another matter.
The trial is a very good twist. But BioWare is going to screw it up.
There is a thread I started about this. Must be on the first page.





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