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[Masseffectftwyaboi]

HiJack the Normandy with Joker and EDI, and find your own new crew as well as going to planets and getting some old favorites.

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[NoUserNameHere]

No no no, no facial reconstruction, no geting separated from the Normandy. They played that card once. I doubt it would work near as well a second time.

[Zulu_DFA]

NoUserNameHere wrote...

No no no, no facial reconstruction, no geting separated from the Normandy. They played that card once. I doubt it would work near as well a second time.

Facial reconstruction absolutely necessary. I need a shave, and a new haircut!

Modifié par Zulu_DFA, 21 février 2010 - 10:37 .

[Talogrungi]

Zulu_DFA wrote...

NoUserNameHere wrote...

No no no, no facial reconstruction, no geting separated from the Normandy. They played that card once. I doubt it would work near as well a second time.

Facial reconstruction absolutely necessary. I need a shave, and a new haircut!

You can respec your skillpoints and bonus still, but one thing will always be true:

There are no barbers in space!

[RVonE]

So no one is in favor of my take?

[Zulu_DFA]

RVonE wrote...

So no one is in favor of my take?

Your "take" takes me back...

[Barrendall]

RVonE wrote...

So no one is in favor of my take?

For some reason it kind of sounds like I went down that road somewhere before, and recently......

[RVonE]

Zulu_DFA wrote...

RVonE wrote...

So no one is in favor of my take?

Your "take" takes me back...

lol

[Macq Daddy]

I could see EA/Bioware playing it both ways. If you start fresh, then you get to rebuild your face and choose your class. If you import, you hold what you've got. Plot progresses from there. It's not entirely uncommon for a Space Opera to start with a crew already in place.

Of course, another option could simply be that somewhere between ME2 and ME3 Shepard gets captured by the Reapers or their agents and had experiments of some kind performed on him (to try to figure out exactly how/why such an insignificant little thing could possibly screw over the Reapers' plans twice, so it can be avoided in the future), and the opening of the game is him breaking free/getting rescued...then you have to go track down your crew and save the galaxy again.

You could either have a couple old party members who were captured with you (or show up to rescue you...bonus points if it's a mix of ME1 and ME2 characters), or gain a couple new ones in the first mission by freeing them from the Reaper's clutches. Maybe Thane makes a heroic last stand/sacrifice to allow you to escape (coupled with heartfelt farewell if he was a LI) to give the prologue/opening some dramatic weight. Then when you arrive back in the galaxy proper the Reaper threat is in full swing and you get to make the triumphant "hero's return" and rally everybody to your side for the final battle.

Modifié par Macq Daddy, 22 février 2010 - 03:34 .

[kraidy1117]

Making all the squadmates from ME2 cameos and discontinuing the LI would be stupid and that would ruin the point of ME2. If Bioware did that crap I would not buy ME3, no matter how good the reviews are.

[stuffingam]

It turns out that the reapers never existed and you're a lunatic going crazy in a mental asylum, and the turian councillor was right all along. That would be the best way to end it all.

[Zulu_DFA]

stuffingam wrote...

It turns out that the reapers never existed and you're a lunatic going crazy in a mental asylum, and the turian councillor was right all along. That would be the best way to end it all.

After no spacesuits in space and high heels combat attire, that's is the most logical outcome. But this thread is about the eginning of ME3, not the ending.

Modifié par Zulu_DFA, 22 février 2010 - 04:01 .

[Madman17]

I'd like the opening sequence to be the citadel getting destroyed, very powerfull opening, lets you know what your up against, shepard shouldnt be anywhere near it. It could open with the council talking about Reapers sightings across the galaxy and possibly comming to the conclusion that shepard was right and they were all monumentally thick then BOOM in come the reapers wiping out the population of the citadel, fun fun fun. Of course this is all a complete waist of time, highly unlikely that anyone here will guess biowares opening , no wone would have guesed ME2 started with Shepards death a year before it came out.

[Von Verrikan]

CheesesackIII wrote...

I wouldn't say those are requirements at all. I'd personally hate it if all our ME 2 crew were reduced to cameos and simply ignored, just to make it 'easier' for Bioware.

This. The worst idea I can think of would be to get rid of your whole crew for sake of it being easier. If you wanted it to be easy by the third game, you wouldn't have crafted such a complex trilogy! They know what they're doing. We'll see whoever we saved return in proper form (Not cameos, you're kidding yourselves if you think cameos)

[ErWags]

kraidy1117 wrote...

Making all the squadmates from ME2 cameos and discontinuing the LI would be stupid and that would ruin the point of ME2. If Bioware did that crap I would not buy ME3, no matter how good the reviews are.

I agree, you spend 90% of the ME2 recruiting and getting their loyalty. I mean there are only 5 story missions (Freedom Progress, Horizon, Collector Ship, Reaper IFF, and Omega 4 base) compared to what 22 mission you do for the team. I feel the point of this installment was to get your crew. Now in ME3 the only crew you should be recruiting should be Liara and Ash, however I getting the feeling this may be handed with some DLC expansion at some point. So that leaves the entire ME3 with; finding the history about the reapers, doing missions that unite the galaxy to fight them, and finding a way to stop them. Also, some other points raised in ME2 that could be used in ME3; why are the reapers so interested in Shepard and Humanity (I could see a plot twist coming) and what's up with the dark engery at Haestrom's sun.

Modifié par ErWags, 22 février 2010 - 04:51 .

[Zulu_DFA]

ErWags wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

Making all the squadmates from ME2 cameos and discontinuing the LI would be stupid and that would ruin the point of ME2. If Bioware did that crap I would not buy ME3, no matter how good the reviews are.

I agree, you spend 90% of the ME2 recruiting and getting their loyalty. I mean there are only 5 story missions (Freedom Progress, Horizon, Collector Ship, Reaper IFF, and Omega 4 base) compared to what 22 mission you do for the team. I feel the point of this installment was to get your crew. Now in ME3 the only crew you should be recruiting should be Liara and Ash, however I getting the feeling this may be handed with some DLC expansion at some point. So that leaves the entire ME3 with; finding the history about the reapers, doing missions that unite the galaxy to fight them, and finding a way to stop them. Also, some other points raised in ME2 that could be used in ME3; why are the reapers so interested in Shepard and Humanity (I could see a plot twist coming) and what's up with the dark engery at Haestrom's sun.

20 missions for the team. You don't need to recruit Miranda and Jacob. => exactly 80% for recruiting, 20% actually fighting Collectors.

[JMA22TB]

It would make sense for TIM to sever ties with you because either you cost him the Collector Base or you've done your part and now he has what he needs. Who's to say he's not the one that turns you in? You'll go to the Council right after ME2 and walk right into the situation or if you're renegade, TIM will set you up so you're out of the way. He knows you could stop him if you want to and that isn't healthy for his plans.

[gneissguy2003]

Personally, the idea of Shepard being put on trial seems rather lame. We're talking about Shepard... possibly the most dangerous, well-equipped, and notorious person currently in the galaxy who's flying around with a bunch of bad-a**es in a stealth ship. That, and with as many contacts as he has (such as Liara) no one is going to be putting out a warrant for his arrest or anything else without him finding out about it.

Modifié par gneissguy2003, 26 février 2010 - 12:50 .

[Zulu_DFA]

JMA22TB wrote...

It would make sense for TIM to sever ties with you because either you cost him the Collector Base or you've done your part and now he has what he needs. Who's to say he's not the one that turns you in? You'll go to the Council right after ME2 and walk right into the situation or if you're renegade, TIM will set you up so you're out of the way. He knows you could stop him if you want to and that isn't healthy for his plans.

Pal, I'm 100% loyal to TIM, and I don't have a sister to mess about. Why would he set me up?

gneissguy2003 wrote...

Personally, the idea of Shepard being put on trial seems rather lame. We're talking about Shepard... possibly the most dangerous, well-equipped, and notorious person currently in the galaxy who's flying around with a bunch of bad-a**es in a stealth ship. That, and with as many contacts as he has (such as Liara) no one is going to be putting out a warrant for his arrest or anything else without him finding out about it.

Lame is the way to think so. 1st of all, you're actually dead, and all you see around you (stealth ship, her crew and badass squadmates) and that you see it with (your body) is TIM's creation. He put all that together. Yours is maybe your so called "soul". I don't intend to put you in the mood that you owe TIM something, but clearly, if Cerberus could do that, they are probably able to undo that too. Much more so goes to any particular major government (Alliance, Union, Hierarchy, Republics) or their coalition (AKA Citadel Council). Alliance already has a line of "Normandy-class" frigates, didn't you know? And shepard does go ashore, right?

Anyone can be taken down, trapped, deceived. Take 5 another Alliance lieutenant commanders, make them spectres, give them "Normandy class" frigates, with highly trained crew, access to fresh intelligence and proper funding, and they'll corner Shepard, in a month, especially if he is on his own. And they won't put a warrant to get shepard arrested. He is not a pickpocket. They'll set up a special operation (a "suicide mission" maybe, ha-ha) to apprehend a dangerous rogue agent.

Come on, in ME2 Shepard can nearly kick it by drinking a posioned soda in a bar!!! How many times did you reload the autosave due to "critical mission failure" on your 1st playthrough?

Modifié par Zulu_DFA, 26 février 2010 - 01:27 .

[PandemicFear]

gneissguy2003 wrote...

Personally, the idea of Shepard being put on trial seems rather lame. We're talking about Shepard... possibly the most dangerous, well-equipped, and notorious person currently in the galaxy who's flying around with a bunch of bad-a**es in a stealth ship. That, and with as many contacts as he has (such as Liara) no one is going to be putting out a warrant for his arrest or anything else without him finding out about it.

This

And having Shepard on the run from his enemies? Shouldn't it be the other way around?

[glacier1701]

Lets say you are starting a new Shepard from scratch. Then what could be done is 'dream sequence' in which you 'relive' the beginning of ME2 in the Cerberus lab. That is you get to design your character, choose a class and run through the tutorial. When you leave the station you wake up on the Normandy in the present time. And start the game from there.

If you import basically you are asked if you want to make some changes to your face or class if there are changes that might make you want to because of changes to class/graphics by the time of ME3. In this case you just get taken into the lab for facial reconstruction and class choice. Then you wake up on the Normandy.

Its possible that if combat has changed enough that they might run you through a simulation to get you up to speed on the new combat but if it has not changed much then its straight into the game.

[Zulu_DFA]

PandemicFear wrote...

gneissguy2003 wrote...

Personally, the idea of Shepard being put on trial seems rather lame. We're talking about Shepard... possibly the most dangerous, well-equipped, and notorious person currently in the galaxy who's flying around with a bunch of bad-a**es in a stealth ship. That, and with as many contacts as he has (such as Liara) no one is going to be putting out a warrant for his arrest or anything else without him finding out about it.

This

And having Shepard on the run from his enemies? Shouldn't it be the other way around?

Only in your dreams about being tough and powerful.

[KnotEngaged]

TIM activates EDI's 'restricted functions' and **** hits the fan. Everyone dies except you.

[Zulu_DFA]

KnotEngaged wrote...

TIM activates EDI's 'restricted functions' and **** hits the fan. Everyone dies except you.

Not bad, not bad.

[Brijenieve]

My suspicion is that a large part (if not all) of ME3's plot has been written and decided, and that ME2 was made in light of that, as the bridge between the first and final chapters. I don't think there will be a huge disconnect between ME2 and ME3 - like "That was fun, but let's go THIS way now!" At the very end of ME2, after Shep is back on board (if he/she survived, obvi), it seems like the crew have developed a bond and respect for their commander - they all nod at him/her as he/she walks past the coffins (if there are any) in the cargo hold (or whatever), as though to suggest that "we're all in this together." I don't think that means they will all automatically be squaddies in ME3 (given that any of them can die, as has been mentioned), but I would be surprised if everything started all over again for the third game. Of course you'll be back to noob status somehow (with bonuses for your high level imported shep, of course), but I don' t think you'll start completely from scratch when it comes to a team. My impression is that ME2 is a foundation on which to build the final chapter, not just a filler. You may have to find some of your team again (like if you're put in prison or something), but if they were loyal, they'll be loyal already, etc. Know what I mean?



Just a thought