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[Zulu_DFA]

ResidentNoob wrote...
'It has weight.'

Like someone already posted in this thread, everyone loves a good prison break.

[toddx77]

I like the idea. As for characters I think Bioware will make so every character who survived the suicide mission will be on your team. For each character that died there will be a new character to replace them. The more original team members on your team, the greater chance you would have of surviving your fight with the reapers. Even if you have all your team members you would still come into contact with the new characters. Bioware could make it so you have the choice to recruit the new character or the old one. Also depending on how many characters lived throguh the suicice mission could determine how the new characters see Shepard. For example if 6 characters died than the new characters might not see Shepard as that great and may not be as loyal to him as opposed to keeping the entire team alive and seeing him as someone who knows what he is doing. That may sound a litttle harsh but that would make the suicide mission all the more epic since how well you did is affectint how your going to save the galaxy in ME3. So I am thinking there will be 2 teams total. Shepards team and the new character team. The teams can be mixed or be all previous characters on Shepards team and all new characters on the other team. In the end to get no one left behind this team you will have to keep both teams alive.

[Hulk Hsieh]

The Reapers are near, and Shepard needs to get as many allies possible to join the war in short time. It is not really a good time to stay low profile but to utilize the fact that he is "the" commander Shepard.

[Zulu_DFA]

Hulk Hsieh wrote...

The Reapers are near, and Shepard needs to get as many allies possible to join the war in short time. It is not really a good time to stay low profile but to utilize the fact that he is "the" commander Shepard.

In fact, Shepard still doesn't know squat about the Reapers. Including how near they are. And how many there are. and how tough they are. So, "gathering the allies" is a waste of Shepard's time at the moment.

[kennyv217]

Since Kasumi and Zaaed are DLC, they will probably give us a story that they left Shepard's squad to pursue other things. (Zaeed wants to track Vido down;Kasumi wants to continue being a thief)

[kennyv217]

As for the squad:



Miranda-Since she is loyal to Shepard and has pretty much resigned from Cerberus(bring her to fight the Human Reaper), she will stay with Shepard.



Jacob-Same as Miranda



Garrus-His he good friend of Shepard's. He will definately stay.



Mordin-Maybe, maybe not.



Jack-She has nowhere else to go and she is loyal to Shepard. I bet she'll stay.



Grunt-Shepard is his battlemaster, so he will probably stay. Then again me might go to Tuchanka and join a clan.



Samara-She was bound to Shepard until the mission was over. It is over, she will probably leave and be bound by The Code again.



Tali-Same as Garrus.



Thane-Will probably stay with Shepard, but might die of his disease over the course of the game. (If he didn't die in the Suicide Mission)



Legion-Might leave Shepard and stay with the Geth, but he it's possible he will stay.



Zaeed-Since he is DLC, we will probably get a story that he left Shepard to track down Vido.



Kasumi-Since she is DLC, we will probably get a story that she left Shepard to continue being a thief.

[Zulu_DFA]

kennyv217 wrote...
Zaeed wants to track Vido down

Which Vido? The one that burned on Zorya?

Zaeed is the best war-pal of *my* Shepard and has no reason to leave, since on Shepard's team he will have plenty of suicide missions to go into, and TIM will continue to reimburse his bounty huntilg self heartily, since *my* Shepard has no reason to leave Cerberus.

[skcih-deraj]

I say some thing a little like this.
http://www.fanfictio...he_Galaxy_Needs

Modifié par skcih-deraj, 27 juin 2010 - 03:29 .

[kennyv217]

Zulu_DFA wrote...

kennyv217 wrote...
Zaeed wants to track Vido down

Which Vido? The one that burned on Zorya?

Zaeed is the best war-pal of *my* Shepard and has no reason to leave, since on Shepard's team he will have plenty of suicide missions to go into, and TIM will continue to reimburse his bounty huntilg self heartily, since *my* Shepard has no reason to leave Cerberus.

Alright, I'M JUST SAYING, if you went the paragon route on Zaeed's loyalty mission, that's how it might happen and what's with the * * around every my in "my Shepard"?

[Zulu_DFA]

kennyv217 wrote...

Zulu_DFA wrote...

kennyv217 wrote...
Zaeed wants to track Vido down

Which Vido? The one that burned on Zorya?

Zaeed is the best war-pal of *my* Shepard and has no reason to leave, since on Shepard's team he will have plenty of suicide missions to go into, and TIM will continue to reimburse his bounty huntilg self heartily, since *my* Shepard has no reason to leave Cerberus.

Alright, I'M JUST SAYING, if you went the paragon route on Zaeed's loyalty mission, that's how it might happen and what's with the * * around every my in "my Shepard"?

There are so many "routes" that any speculation about "who's back and who's leaving" based on the "reasons" they have is pointless. Actually, it's a sublte "I played ME2 this way, and demand it is made canon" statement.

1. Every ME2 squadmate may be dead, as a result of the "suicide mission".
2. Some ME2 squadmates may die outside of the "suicide mission".
3. Every ME2 squadmate may have "reason" to leave, due to non-completion of their "loyalty" mission.
4. Some ME2 squadmates may have "reason" to leave due to "wrong" choices that accomplished their "loyalty" mission.
5. Some squadmates may have not been recruited at all.
6. There has to be the room for several new squadmates for the new standalone ME3 game.

So unless BioWare makes every one of the 17 squadmates returning as recruitables in ME3 plus a whole team of substitutes for the dead/"unloyal" squadmates, which is commercially questionable, the chances are that all ME2 squadmates will be cameo-d or DLC-d for ME3. And there is also another, the only and enough reason for that.

Modifié par Zulu_DFA, 30 juin 2010 - 12:02 .

[Zulu_DFA]

All right, I'm casting a necromancer's spell on this thread with an update.

To supplement the core (on-disk) ME2's news blurb about Shepard "surrounding himself with criminals, killers, mercenaries and other dangerous elements" we now have a lot of new data.

From Admiral Hackett's profile in the Shadow Broker's database we know, that some dickheаds in the Alliance considered taking Shepard into custody, after he resurfaced on Omega. And in "Cerberus Daily News" of today (normally, I don't follow them, but this one is particularly interesting) there is a mentioning that the Council was considering suspending Shepard as early as weeks after the Battle of the Citadel (instead, they sent him off to be killed). But, most importanly, no matter what Shepard did by way of the "Big choices", whether was reinstated as Spectre, what's his carma/alignment, and the Council's own state, one thing brings undeniable culpability: Shepard killed Tela Vasir - a Spectre on duty. Shepard is rogue!

So, the question "On what charges will Shepard be tried?" has been given a proper answer. Vasir's "murder" will be minimally sufficient to lock Shepard up, but other events and decisions Shepard made can be brought up during the trial as aggravations (best example - the Rachni Queen - no matter what you did, it was "wrong").

And I bet, blowing up the Baria Frontiers' office will be slapped on Shepard as well. Multiple witnesses (the cops, hotel patrons) will confirm that Shepard "was following" Vasir. Shadow Broker's troops "were obviously" Shepard's own troops - see the Galactic News. And BTW, with Liara becoming the Shadow Broker, it's sort of true!

Modifié par Zulu_DFA, 17 septembre 2010 - 04:22 .

[vkt62]

What if ME3 was more of recruiting fleets and not team members? You go to the Rachni and convince them to join you. You go to the Salarian STG, the turians, the asari, the Krogans and convince some of their fleets to join you? Also looking through ruins of pre Prothean civilizations to find something which would help. If you look at ME1 and ME2, the core elements of ME2 were there in ME1 also such as the planet where the weapon that killed the dead reaper hit.

[FuturePasTimeCE]

what? sheperd a convict? that's stupid.

[Zulu_DFA]

What if ME3 was more about fictious science that makes it possible to defeat the uber-mighty Reapers? Something the Rachni and Krogans can't possibly help with AT ALL?

[Zulu_DFA]

FuturePasTimeCE wrote...

what? sheperd a convict? that's stupid.

All right you asked for it. Here's some MASSIVE MASS EFFECT 3 SPOILERS!!!


It starts with Anderson getting drunk.

Kahlee Sanders has been indoctrinated and the Reapers are about to invade.

Then Shepard shows up in his N7 armor, which he never can change to the casual outfit now...

He spent last 9 years in jail after the Turians arrested him in the wake of Anderson's anti-Cerberus stampede.

But Shepard is ready to forgive Anderson for the old times' sake and makes him a business proposition.

They go on missions to collect pieces of a Prothean artefact that'd supposedly kill all Reapers instanteneously, as they arrive to the Milky Way.

At some point Joker tells Anderson that Shepard's N7 armor is a death trap, that'd shut down all his cyber-zombie implants if given a specific command.

In the end they find dehuskified Kahlee and Shepard takes aim at her saying that TIM bailed him out of jail on the condition that he kills Kahlee. Anderson says "We all got our choices to make" and shoots Shepard in the face.

Modifié par Zulu_DFA, 30 septembre 2010 - 10:10 .

[Fiery Phoenix]

I seriously doubt the gap between ME2 and 3 will be so significant, Zulu. If I had to guess, it will be several months, or a year at most.

[Zulu_DFA]

FieryPhoenix7 wrote...

I seriously doubt the gap between ME2 and 3 will be so significant, Zulu. If I had to guess, it will be several months, or a year at most.

Um, seriously, if the "Big Choices" have to have any significant impact, even if only cosmetical, on the Galaxy, it better be some time for them to take root. For Tali to make an Admiral, Grunt to have babies and stuff.

[vkt62]

I don't understand why everyone assumes that any relic that exist which can kill the reapers would have to be Prothean. The cycle has been going on for millions of years and the Protheans did their part for ME1. Some other civilization did theirs for ME2 (reaper IFF). So some older civilization (could be from around the start of the Reapers) might be the key. In ME1, they mention a planet where some Volus finds a planet which could have artifacts (something to do with beings of the light) which could be relevent.

[Fiery Phoenix]

Zulu_DFA wrote...

FieryPhoenix7 wrote...

I seriously doubt the gap between ME2 and 3 will be so significant, Zulu. If I had to guess, it will be several months, or a year at most.

Um, seriously, if the "Big Choices" have to have any significant impact, even if only cosmetical, on the Galaxy, it better be some time for them to take root. For Tali to make an Admiral, Grunt to have babies and stuff.

Yeah, well, you should be proud that your escaped convict theory is actually hinted on in LOTSB.

[Hopefire]

Zulu_DFA wrote...

FuturePasTimeCE wrote...

what? sheperd a convict? that's stupid.

All right you asked for it. Here's some MASSIVE MASS EFFECT 3 SPOILERS!!!


It starts with Anderson getting drunk.

Kahlee Sanders has been indoctrinated and the Reapers are about to invade.

Then Shepard shows up in his N7 armor, which he never can change to the casual outfit now...

He spent last 9 years in jail after the Turians arrested him in the wake of Anderson's anti-Cerberus stampede.

But Shepard is ready to forgive Anderson for the old times' sake and makes him a business proposition.

They go on missions to collect pieces of a Prothean artefact that'd supposedly kill all Reapers instanteneously, as they arrive to the Milky Way.

At some point Joker tells Anderson that Shepard's N7 armor is a death trap, that'd shut down all his cyber-zombie implants if given a specific command.

In the end they find dehuskified Kahlee and Shepard takes aim at her saying that TIM bailed him out of jail on the condition that he kills Kahlee. Anderson says "We all got our choices to make" and shoots Shepard in the face.

Throw in a sequence where Garrus shows up to tell Anderson about what he's been up to, and how Sovereign was actually a good guy who had no other choice, and tells Anderson that it's crucial that Kahlee Sanders be allowed to live.

Alternatively, it can be EDI that needs to be rescued rather than Kahlee, and Liara can join Anderson's crew as the hot science chick with glasses looking for a cure to indoctrination. . .

[StarcloudSWG]

Character resets are boring. It would be nice to *not* have one for ME 3.

[Zulu_DFA]

FieryPhoenix7 wrote...

Zulu_DFA wrote...

FieryPhoenix7 wrote...

I seriously doubt the gap between ME2 and 3 will be so significant, Zulu. If I had to guess, it will be several months, or a year at most.

Um, seriously, if the "Big Choices" have to have any significant impact, even if only cosmetical, on the Galaxy, it better be some time for them to take root. For Tali to make an Admiral, Grunt to have babies and stuff.

Yeah, well, you should be proud that your escaped convict theory is actually hinted on in LOTSB.

Yeah, .

If it's played out with enough sophistication, Shepard's imprisonment may also be presented as a really machiavellian slap in the face to Admiral Anderson, for his betrayal. Anderson himself is beyond touch, but his protege Commander Shepard is his soft spot, so to say. Not only Shepard gets locked up for own false "treason", but also it comes as a direct consequence of Anderson's actions in Retribution, that are much more questionable and less justified than anything Shepard can be charged with. Both Shepard and Anderson will know what and who's real mistakes is it that Shepard's paying for, making the things stirred up beyond belief.