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Tali and Legion both die as tech specialist


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Mario Serrano

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 No matter what they both die doing the tech job and idk why. I cant avoid it.

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Alamar2078

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Are you not getting to the heat release valves quick enough? Are both of them loyal?? Where are they dieing at [that should tell us what the issue is]

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Mario Serrano

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they get shot in the face trying to close the door and they are both loyal.

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Colinissile

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Its the leader of the second team, then. Pick Garrus (I think the other right choice is miranda?).

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Mario Serrano

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I'm also playing on hardcore if that makes any difference

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D.Shepard

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Someone said it may depends on the leader of the second team... Who did you choose to lead the second team?

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I advocated loyalty and fast closing of the valves.

But apparently there's this case of the choice of sqd leaders. Miranda or Jacob is a good choice. I personally used Jacob, maybe that's why nobody died.

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Mario Serrano

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I picked miranda

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Pick an effective team leader for the second group. Garrus or Miranda

Edit: I see you picked Miranda, was she not loyal?

Modifié par marshalleck, 17 février 2010 - 04:35 .


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Mario Serrano

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Ill try it with garrus and see what happens

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Are you sure they're loyal, you didn't lose their loyalty when they had their argument?

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Mario Serrano

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Garrus worked. I just ran through and hit all the buttons without shooting enemies. I think miranda might of not been loyal.

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Mario Serrano

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Thanks for the help guys

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sorry double post

Modifié par Mario Serrano, 17 février 2010 - 04:40 .


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Mario Serrano wrote...

Garrus worked. I just ran through and hit all the buttons without shooting enemies. I think miranda might of not been loyal.

Then you should avoid to add her to your team during the last missions, if you want to keep her alive.

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Mario Serrano wrote...

Garrus worked. I just ran through and hit all the buttons without shooting enemies. I think miranda might of not been loyal.


Kinda sucks if this is true that it depends on the 2nd squad leader if the tech specialist survives or not. The 2nd squad leader is doing nothing in this cutscene if i remember right. If they wanna punish the player for choosing a character who isn't fit for being the 2nd squad leader they should let one 2nd squad die instead of the tech specialist which was chosen correctly. 

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Nakorson wrote...

Mario Serrano wrote...

Garrus worked. I just ran through and hit all the buttons without shooting enemies. I think miranda might of not been loyal.


Kinda sucks if this is true that it depends on the 2nd squad leader if the tech specialist survives or not. The 2nd squad leader is doing nothing in this cutscene if i remember right. If they wanna punish the player for choosing a character who isn't fit for being the 2nd squad leader they should let one 2nd squad die instead of the tech specialist which was chosen correctly. 


I was thinking the same thing. I guess everything has to be perfect then lol.

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Mario Serrano wrote...

Nakorson wrote...

Mario Serrano wrote...

Garrus worked. I just ran through and hit all the buttons without shooting enemies. I think miranda might of not been loyal.


Kinda sucks if this is true that it depends on the 2nd squad leader if the tech specialist survives or not. The 2nd squad leader is doing nothing in this cutscene if i remember right. If they wanna punish the player for choosing a character who isn't fit for being the 2nd squad leader they should let one 2nd squad die instead of the tech specialist which was chosen correctly. 


I was thinking the same thing. I guess everything has to be perfect then lol.

I think team members survival is not affected by "difficulty level" and I'm pretty sure it is not even affected by member's powers or weapons.
I suppose the second team is responsible for aiding the tech expert and this explains why the two choices are connected. Just an opinion.

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I thought it was because the second team leader was giving fire support when the tech expert is closing the door.

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GCreature wrote...

I thought it was because the second team leader was giving fire support when the tech expert is closing the door.


In my last playthrough i used Legion which didn't tried to close the door with pushing. He hacked all the time. Shepard was praising him "i knew i could count on you" and wasn't praising my 2nd squad leader. 

Since i used thane on my first playthrough and the same squad leader on both playthroughs and thane died while trying to close the door while pushing it through it was clear for me that i made the wrong choice for a specialist. 

Modifié par Nakorson, 17 février 2010 - 05:01 .


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GCreature

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Yeah, but while the tech was hacking the second team was at the doorway with Shepard's team, firing at the Collectors. If the second team wasn't being lead well enough, then they weren't providing enough fire support, so the tech gets a rocket to the face.

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GCreature wrote...

Yeah, but while the tech was hacking the second team was at the doorway with Shepard's team, firing at the Collectors. If the second team wasn't being lead well enough, then they weren't providing enough fire support, so the tech gets a rocket to the face.


So how should the player know why the tech expert died? Because he chose the wrong tech expert or the wrong 2nd squad lead, since both lead to the same outcome ...

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Nakorson wrote...

GCreature wrote...

Yeah, but while the tech was hacking the second team was at the doorway with Shepard's team, firing at the Collectors. If the second team wasn't being lead well enough, then they weren't providing enough fire support, so the tech gets a rocket to the face.


So how should the player know why the tech expert died? Because he chose the wrong tech expert or the wrong 2nd squad lead, since both lead to the same outcome ...


Well both those choices are pretty obvious, imo. Tali and legion are by far the best techs you have and Miranda is adamant you pick her. Choosing Garrus is slightly more esoteric, but his whole backstory is built around him being a squad leader.

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Edit: Double post.

Modifié par GCreature, 17 février 2010 - 05:14 .


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Its actually the first team leader that matters for tech specialist survival.

Heres a list on what to do to get the best results
1. Do all the loyalty missions
2. Buy all the ship upgrades
3. Only do Legions loyalty mission after you pick him up if you want Kelly and the crew to survive. Get his mission BEFORE you go click on the galatic map.
4. Kill the eye thing and do the infilitrator and biotic things as fast as you can.
5. Choose Tali, Mordin or Legion for the Tech Specialist. Legion is most recommended.
6. Choose Miranda, Jacob or Garrus for the Leaders both times.
7. Choose Mordin or Thane as the person to bring everyone back
8. Choose Samara, Mornith or Jack for the biotic swarm part.

Modifié par SmilingMirror, 17 février 2010 - 06:07 .