The_Rev09 wrote...
Hey all,
Great thread filled with good info and better attitudes!
I recently upgraded my motherboard and graphics card to run DA:O. I did a complete reinstall of Win 7 Ultimate 64-bit, downloaded Steam and purchased DA:O. Found that after about 10 minutes in-game, the PC would simply shut down.
I've upgraded the BIOS, the chipset drivers, and have the latest and greatest ATI and Creative drivers.
So far the only thing that's made the game even remotely stable is using ATI's CCC app to turn the GPU clock and memory down to their lowest settings, which will give me a few hours of solid gameplay. However, shutdowns continue at the busiest cut-scenes, and at other random times for no apparent reason.
I took a look at the CPU and GPU temps, and they appear to be fine, topping out at around 45c for the CPU and 50c for the GPU.
Also noticed that PC would reboot occasionally if I ran 3dMark vantage or 3dMark06, or other GPU-heavy games. I assumed it was the GPU, so I scheduled an RMA from NewEgg. I swapped out the card for my old x1950XT and guess what? Almost immediate shutdown when I launched DA:O. I cancelled the RMA and reinstalled the card. As the X1950Xt is a DX9-only card, it did seem odd...
I tried something else; I opened every program I could on my PC; all MS Office 2007 apps, 35 Ie/Firefox/Chrome windows, Dreamweaver, PS Pro, etc. Then I launched DA:O and it immediately shut down.
I've been monitoring the 3,5, and 12v rails and they appear to be fine, but it's hard to tell with DO:A in the front, and there's nothing to see when the PC shuts down.
I'm still thinking that it's a power supply issue, though; a Thermaltake 650 watt ps should be enough, but if I push the GPU mem and clock speeds up anywhere above their lowest settings, I can get it to shut down; the higher the settings, the faster the crash.
Thoughts?
System Specs:
Win 7 Ultimate 64-bit
ASUS P5N-D mobo
8 gigs Crucial RAM
Sapphire HD 5770
Core2 Duo E 6420
Sound Blaster X-Fi XtremeGamer
Thermaltake toughpower W0104RU 650W ATX12V
Hey Guys,
Take a look at Rev 09's hardware. The common links between mine and theirs are:
Catalyst Drivers (They haven't mentioned which version)
Creative X-Fi Extreme Gamer
Windows 7 64 bit.
I am not so sure the Power Supply is the culprit here because the symptoms and possible cures (underclocking) seem to help. Underclocking wouldn't actually drop voltage/current required for a grapics card to run. Also the 5770 is actually requires LESS than it's predecessors due to a drop in die size to 40nm which means less voltage/current requirement.
Underclocking seemed to help me for a while but what got me thinking that this wasn't the actual problem was as you have said temperatures seemed fine (if it is undervolted or has insufficient amps, it would actually overheat). If it was truly an overheating problem the card would also fall over after roughly the same amount of time (e.g. after 30 mins) and this would be pretty consistent, which wasn't happening on my machine as the crashing was very sporadic. Also when I have had overheating problems in days of yore, when a graphics card or cpu for that matter got a bit too hot, the whole machine would lock up, not just the game or app I was using at the time, as was happening with Dragon Age.
Firstly I would suggest the full uninstall of your existing ATi Catalyst Drivers (as discussed in previous posts) and then reinstall the latest Catalyst 10.2 drivers. I think what might be quite telling is that you also have a Creative X-Fi card as well. I did actually notice that there is a new version of Alchemy available which I have downloaded via the Creative Update application (and forgot I had!) which may explain why my machine is now behaving itself. Bear in mind what I was saying about X-Fi cards and Vista/Windows 7 in my earlier posts. It's also telling that Dragon Age doesn't actually support EAX or Miles positional audio (as a lot of games do) and therefore must be using Direct3D sound so maybe, just maybe it's soundcards implementation of Direct3D that is the issue here.
I am actually hedging towards the problems stemming from Audio drivers and DX10/DX11. You might also want to try disabling your X-Fi and using your onboard sound (but use the OEM chipset drivers rather than Asus' version) to see if that helps at all.
Creative's drivers and speed of updates to rectify problems has always been a source of complaints for many years, in part because we very rarely find out that they are causing problems. Take a look at this thread, we are all very quick to blame Dragon Age or Graphics cards and we may be barking up the wrong tree.
I think the fact that we have identical Graphics Card (in terms of drivers), Windows 7 64bit and sound cards
would seem to suggest that the problem may lie in one of those areas. As some nVidia owners are reporting similar issues, I guess it's starting to narrow the field to two culprits.
Modifié par greyhavens24, 24 février 2010 - 07:02 .
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Does this Driver Sweeper Program cost anything, either up front, or subscription-wise? It doesn't say.
Better to bugger this puder, then my new puder build.
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