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[Lancer24]

i think most people are upset with the fact that femshep is the one being direct(and horny)and not the male love interest.

[Sialater]

Mox Ruuga wrote...

There were threads about FemShep not acting / sounding "feminine" enough on the old forums.

Perhaps wrecking FemShep's refreshingly professional soldier demeanor was Bioware's misguided attempt at catering to those interests?

I always thought femShep sounded fine.  I prefered the subtletly of the romance, not this pr0n star schmooze.  

[Spectre_Shepard]

horizon sucked for us ashley/kaidan guys. and I'm sure if youre into liara youre not happy either.



but horizon really, really sucked

[RiouHotaru]

OfficerDonNZ wrote...

I'm glad I'm not the only one who went 'Oh god, no.' It's just the way Jen Hale says that line to Jacob. It turned me right off talking to him as a FemShep. I've been playing a MaleShep (whose going after Tali) and so far even when he's talking to Maranda or Jack he don't come out with anying as cringe worthy.

I don't know if Garrus or Thane's roamnces are better for a FemShep. But no we're staying clear of Mr Talyor.

The sad part?  Jacob isn't a bad person.  He actually tries to get Shepard to slow down.  His line between romance dialogs is "We've got a good thing Shepard, let's not push it."  He wants to take it slow, but no, FemShep wants it fast.   And hard.   Against that lovely window with the view of the drive core please.

Although I am a bit of a hypocrite because during the Garrus Romance her hitting on him goes right over his head the first time, so she has to make an even worse analogy for him to realize she wants to do the horizontal tango with him.   And his reaction is adorable.

[Mondo47]

Legbiter wrote...

No objective criteria exists, too subjective.

Well, except "wow, you look amazing" is more romantic than "is it in yet?"

I just spat tea on meself. Bravo

[Llandaryn]

Tyreal42a wrote...

HAGA NAGA wrote...

Tyreal42a wrote...

I find most romantic dialogue to be a little cringe-worthy, but I feel that way about such talk in real life as well. I also have not played a fem shep or seen any of dialogue, so perhaps I shouldn't be commenting on this, but...what's wrong with being direct, regardless of gender? She is meant to be a 29-31 year old, world-weary military commander, after all. Not a shy teenager blushing at a high school prom.

the problem is Femshep being all flirty with jacob from the get go whether you romance him or not.

This, it seems, is a problem with both male and female Shepard and all romantic interests though. Jack was telling me to 'F off if you're with Tali' before I knew I was even romancing her! Despite the fact I never had any intention of doing so or selected any lines that seemed remotely suggestive.

The femShep dialogue lines are really bad, me. You'd think that Shepard was a space-hooker, rather than an ex military commander.

[HAGA NAGA]

Mondo47 wrote...

"I'd rather just talk for a while..." nudge nudge wink wink say no more. 

LOL!!!

i just threw up in my mouth. seriously, it's F***ing hideous that they did that to Femshep. ugh. jacob. ugh.........

[WilliamShatner]

The romances in ME2 seemed like they were written by a 15 years old. Jacob.. Ugh. Garrus is a teen sex comedy. Miranda amounts to "You look hot." "Let's do it in the engine room." Even Thane, which at a point looked like it was going to be a bit more mature has female Shepard verbally hopping on him with "I want you."



ME1 romances weren't deep conversation wise but the but it was played out more like a serious bond between to people than just wanting to hop into bed.

[MutantSpleen]

Shepard: It sounds like your carying some tension. Maybe I could help you get rid of it.



Garrus: I didn't think you'd feel like sparring Commander.



Shepard: What if we skipped right to the tiebreaker? We could test your reach..and my flexability.



Garrus: Oh! I didn't..huh. Never knew you had a weakness for men with scars.



I was seriously waiting for the "Bow chickka wow wow" to start playing in the background.

[Mox Ruuga]

Sialater wrote...

I always thought femShep sounded fine.  I prefered the subtletly of the romance, not this pr0n star schmooze.  

So did I. But there were periodical complaint threads where people were whining about FemShep being too manly and stuff. And devs noted, even participated in those discussions.

Perhaps making FemShep OTT horny was a way of degrading her too "masculine" professional soldier decorum, or something?

[jlb524]

I agree. It was awful!!! FemShep's Jacob 'flirting' expecially makes me cringe.



My FemShep tries to stay away from all the ME2 romances but the only way to avoid coming off flirty to Jacob is to avoid talking to him. Even a lot of the options you have for answers seem overly flirty.

[Sialater]

Lancer24 wrote...

i think most people are upset with the fact that femshep is the one being direct(and horny)and not the male love interest.

THAT has nothing to do with it.  I think the boot-to-the-head flirtations show no respect for the object(s) of her affections.  I don't flirt thinking I'm going to get the guy's pants off in two seconds.  The initial convos were awkward, especially given that I waited till after Horizon to engage in them.  

Unless they were trying to show that she was being that cheesily aggressive because she was that badly hurt? 

[HAGA NAGA]

Lancer24 wrote...

i think most people are upset with the fact that femshep is the one being direct(and horny)and not the male love interest.

Not me. Again, i don't care if Femshep gets all "sexy" & "aggressive" but i would like to decide with whom and when.

[KainrycKarr]

But she still has that feigned masculinity thing going on. Except now she sounds a bit like a hoor.



of course, maleshep had his moments...



"C'mere.."

[RiouHotaru]

MutantSpleen wrote...

Shepard: It sounds like your carying some tension. Maybe I could help you get rid of it.

Garrus: I didn't think you'd feel like sparring Commander.

Shepard: What if we skipped right to the tiebreaker? We could test your reach..and my flexability.

Garrus: Oh! I didn't..huh. Never knew you had a weakness for men with scars.

I was seriously waiting for the "Bow chickka wow wow" to start playing in the background.

See, except I found that cute...and then the next convo Shepard mellows out almost immediately and is comforting to him.  I was like "WHERE WAS THAT LIBIDO YOU HAD ONE MISSION AGO?!"

[sergio71785]

LI: "I love you!"

Shepard: "I know"

[WilliamShatner]

Tyreal42a wrote...

I find most romantic dialogue to be a little cringe-worthy, but I feel that way about such talk in real life as well. I also have not played a fem shep or seen any of dialogue, so perhaps I shouldn't be commenting on this, but...what's wrong with being direct, regardless of gender? She is meant to be a 29-31 year old, world-weary military commander, after all. Not a shy teenager blushing at a high school prom.

My character is supposed to be in love with Liara that's big issue number one.  

[Mondo47]

Here's to Shep finally getting to say "Gimme some sugar, baby"

[Sialater]

Mox Ruuga wrote...

Sialater wrote...

I always thought femShep sounded fine.  I prefered the subtletly of the romance, not this pr0n star schmooze.  

So did I. But there were periodical complaint threads where people were whining about FemShep being too manly and stuff. And devs noted, even participated in those discussions.

Perhaps making FemShep OTT horny was a way of degrading her too "masculine" professional soldier decorum, or something?

But I don't get that argument.  I thought she always sounded fine.  Perhaps because I speak like she does?  But then, there's feminine and there's drunken chearleader on prom night.  (It's not helped by the fact that my femShep LOOKS like a chearleader, either.)

[Tyreal42a]

Llandaryn wrote...

Tyreal42a wrote...

HAGA NAGA wrote...

Tyreal42a wrote...

I find most romantic dialogue to be a little cringe-worthy, but I feel that way about such talk in real life as well. I also have not played a fem shep or seen any of dialogue, so perhaps I shouldn't be commenting on this, but...what's wrong with being direct, regardless of gender? She is meant to be a 29-31 year old, world-weary military commander, after all. Not a shy teenager blushing at a high school prom.

the problem is Femshep being all flirty with jacob from the get go whether you romance him or not.

This, it seems, is a problem with both male and female Shepard and all romantic interests though. Jack was telling me to 'F off if you're with Tali' before I knew I was even romancing her! Despite the fact I never had any intention of doing so or selected any lines that seemed remotely suggestive.

The femShep dialogue lines are really bad, me. You'd think that Shepard was a space-hooker, rather than an ex military commander.

Pfft, me and romance go together like Homer Simpson and sock puppets, but have you seen the male romance dialogue as well? Some of it makes Captain Kirk look like Romeo.

Anyway, I decided to go watch some of the Jacob romance dialogue and 'hahahahaha' was pretty much my response. Yeah, that's pretty...weird. It also makes her come across as kind of a jerk the way she treats him. The Thane and Garrus ones weren't as terrible, I thought.

I've only done the Tali romance in game, and I thought it was pretty cheesy, but watching the other 5, I think it might have been the best, which isn't saying much, or IS saying a lot, but perhaps not in a positive way.

Jacob's was the worst, in my opinion, but let's not pretend the male Shepard romance dialogue is some shining example of flirting in comparison.

[sheridanmovieguy]

This was one of my problems...although it was only with Jacob. Every line she said to him sounded like she was hitting on him (even the starting conversation line "I'm more interested in just...talking for a bit"), no wonder he got ideas. And I didn't want him to get ideas.

[OfficerDonNZ]

RiouHotaru wrote...

The sad part?  Jacob isn't a bad person.  He actually tries to get Shepard to slow down.  His line between romance dialogs is "We've got a good thing Shepard, let's not push it."  He wants to take it slow, but no, FemShep wants it fast.   And hard.   Against that lovely window with the view of the drive core please.

Although I am a bit of a hypocrite because during the Garrus Romance her hitting on him goes right over his head the first time, so she has to make an even worse analogy for him to realize she wants to do the horizontal tango with him.   And his reaction is adorable.

Yeah that's sad alright.

Hehe, well Garrus is turian so I guess FemShep can be a little more over the top. Hmm I think my FemShep will have to romance Garrus when I get around to it.

[HAGA NAGA]

Mox Ruuga wrote...

Sialater wrote...

I always thought femShep sounded fine.  I prefered the subtletly of the romance, not this pr0n star schmooze.  

So did I. But there were periodical complaint threads where people were whining about FemShep being too manly and stuff. And devs noted, even participated in those discussions.

Perhaps making FemShep OTT horny was a way of degrading her too "masculine" professional soldier decorum, or something?

the Sh***y thing about that is, most of those "Femsheps voice is too raspy"-threads were full of people trying to trash Femshep. in other words, they had no interest in ever playing femshep regardless of what her voice sounded like.

[RiouHotaru]

KainrycKarr wrote...

But she still has that feigned masculinity thing going on. Except now she sounds a bit like a hoor.

of course, maleshep had his moments...

"C'mere.."

Is it really that bad?  Apparently people think Meer's delivery of that line is incredibly creepy, but I thought it worked fine.  I mean, Meer as Shepard is confident.  He's showing Tali that's he's okay with what they're going to do.  But that might be me just talking out my ass.

[Mighty_BOB_cnc]

RiouHotaru wrote...

MutantSpleen wrote...

Shepard: It sounds like your carying some tension. Maybe I could help you get rid of it.

Garrus: I didn't think you'd feel like sparring Commander.

Shepard: What if we skipped right to the tiebreaker? We could test your reach..and my flexability.

Garrus: Oh! I didn't..huh. Never knew you had a weakness for men with scars.

I was seriously waiting for the "Bow chickka wow wow" to start playing in the background.

See, except I found that cute...and then the next convo Shepard mellows out almost immediately and is comforting to him.  I was like "WHERE WAS THAT LIBIDO YOU HAD ONE MISSION AGO?!"

Haha, that one was funny, but I agree with the general consensus that you're sort of forced into a few of these romances and can't simply talk to your crewmates just to be friends with them.  I especially have no intentions to jump Jacob's bones (well, with another character just to see the content, but not with my current character or the next few ME1 import characters either).