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Personally Morrigan is one of my favs. I love the mystery surrounding her character & found it interesting how she does not know how to deal w/her feelings when it comes to love & the feelings she has for my guy.

In my game my guy did the "dark deed" & had a more than friends relationship w/her practically the whole game so doing the dark deed was not a task for my guy. lol

* I'm praying that the kid is not pure evil or that Morrigan isn't going to use the kid for evil purposes.

*Maybe the kid will hold the key for us Grey Wardens overcoming the fate that possessing the taint in our body does (the dying in 30 yrs) or since the kid has our tainted blood, & the "essence of an old God" maybe this will be some freaky rebirth of Griffons??? That is the most radical thought I have on the kid.

Either way there are soooo many directions that this Morrigan "entanglement" can go....I anxiously await the game that lets me find her. However I will be shocked out of my mind if she is in Awakening.


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Oh I forgot to mention, In my game since I had a "relationship" w/ Morrigan the whole game.... No matter if I did the dark deed at the end or not she was still prego.



However, In my hubbys game, he played a girl & at the end of his game Morrigan wants Allistar to do the "dark deed" If he did the deed she was prego at the end. If he didn't do the deed she wasn't prego.

So...to me... that leaves out any speculation that it could have be Rheordans (sp?) kid.

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Herr Uhl wrote...

No, no and a no.

And it is Loghains kid.


WHAT? You can have Loghain undergo the ritual with Morrigan if you spare his life? Is that what I'm getting from this? OMG It would make it almost worth it to have Alistair hate my girl for letting Loghain live if I didn't have to watch that scene with Alistair and Morrigan ever again. Without killing my girl, that is.

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whatever113 wrote...

Anyone else think that maybe the new Darkspawn enemy is the baby that Morrigan had? Wouldnt that be a trip having to kill your kid.


I wondered that, too, myself. Hell, if it's evil enough, be it my guy's kid or Alistair's I will gladly kill it. And her if given the chance. Though, I doubt that will ever be the case. Sorry. I'm just not a Morrigan fan. :)

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dark-lauron wrote...

It's not like time passes that fast, no? But maybe we'll have to kill the baby. Hopefully.


No, time doesn't pass that fast for natural births. But Morrigan's baby has the soul of an ancient dragon God, who gave mankind magic in the Dragon Age world to begin with. So, you never know, it might move that fast under those circumstances. And hey, did anyone else catch that this particular Archdemon you killed was the corrupted God of Beauty? I found that interesting since they said that Flemeth despairs over her "lost beauty" and Morrigan wishes to keep her youth and beauty. I don't think things will turn out good for this kid in the end. I'm pretty sure it's going to be devoured, if they don't use to increase their power in other ways.

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Daneres wrote...

dark-lauron wrote...

It's not like time passes that fast, no? But maybe we'll have to kill the baby. Hopefully.


No, time doesn't pass that fast for natural births. But Morrigan's baby has the soul of an ancient dragon God, who gave mankind magic in the Dragon Age world to begin with. So, you never know, it might move that fast under those circumstances. And hey, did anyone else catch that this particular Archdemon you killed was the corrupted God of Beauty? I found that interesting since they said that Flemeth despairs over her "lost beauty" and Morrigan wishes to keep her youth and beauty. I don't think things will turn out good for this kid in the end. I'm pretty sure it's going to be devoured, if they don't use to increase their power in other ways.


Who knows...maybe when they bring back Morrigan and her...unnatural child...your character's task might actually be to protect it from her.

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Ceridraen wrote...

I thought it seemed pretty obvious that Morrigan's demon seed baby is supposed to be important in DA2. I also suspected that's why they stick Riordan in - despite the fact she says he's too old, he's a convenient, 'oh, btw, he wasn't THAT old' option, in case you didn't sleep with her. I understand she's seen as pregnant whether you had some sleep with her or not.


My ending when I didn't do the ritual said that she just went on her way and insinuated herself in the Empress of Orlais' court. Nothing about her being pregnant. I didn't think Riordan was too old either, but she said she needed someone who the taint hadn't been in for very long.

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 Morrigan's child, the prototype 

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That... is a terrifying thought.  Might as well stab myself to death now, before my kid gets to go Irenicus on my ass.


You make a very good point.

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Archereon wrote...

Its quite possible that Bioware might take inspiration from one of their old storylines and make Morrigan's child the PC, or a plot vital party member perhaps, in DA2.


I thought that too, myself. As I said earlier, it could be possible in the future that your character, be it this one or a whole new generation of Grey Warden, might actually end up having to protect the child from Morrigan and Flemeth. I'm sure Morrigan didn't want this child for any motherly reason. I, personally, don't even think Morrigan is entirely human. Her eyes are yellow - that's not a human thing. 

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Malanek999 wrote...

I was under the impression that Flemeth wanted the ritual so she could inhabit the body of an extremely powerful being. Which meant she possibly wasn't ever intending to possess Morrigan. Morrigan is now undecided, she could become a god but can she bring herself to devour the baby of the man she loved. She has time to think about it. Very interesting story line.

However it won't be in the awakening, not enough time has passed plus it would require a cannon ending.


If that is the case, and Morrigan lied to my PC about Flemeth wanting to take her body, fooling me all along,  I will DEFINITELY kill her myself with a great deal of pleasure.

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The baby won't be back till the second game. I feel that since the darkspawn are drawn to the old gods that Morrigan will seek out your help for protection. This is all assumption, but i doubt any appearance of Morrigan and if it is it will be very small. VERY VERY SMALL.

Heh, if she came to me for help I would toss her to the darkspawn.Image IPB


Me too! :)

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nilamu wrote...

xzxzxz701 wrote...

nilamu wrote...

The baby won't be back till the second game. I feel that since the darkspawn are drawn to the old gods that Morrigan will seek out your help for protection. This is all assumption, but i doubt any appearance of Morrigan and if it is it will be very small. VERY VERY SMALL.

Heh, if she came to me for help I would toss her to the darkspawn.Image IPB

Well i am assuming something bad happens when the darkwspawn find an old god. I beleive that is what starts blights. So maybe helping her would be benficial.


But if the darkspawn are drawn to the old Gods and Morrigan's child now has the soul of an old God, wouldn't it just be better to rid the world of the kid? That way the darkspawn couldn't find her child and begin a new blight. Quite frankly, the idea that this ancient dragon God being in the body of a human child, able to disguise itself that way and walk amongst humans is greatly disturbing. The damage it could do wouldn't be noticeable until it was way, WAY too late. Hmmm...maybe that IS the story. Morrigan betrayed you, why not her child in the future too, if it is an active party member in the sequel.

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_purifico_ wrote...

The events of the add-on take place roughly 3 months after the events of the original game. So I guess it won't even have been born yet, unless of course it's some kind of supernatural magic baby.
Oh, wait...


Exactly. :)

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News of the hour. Morrigan is giving birth to her child to gain access to some power. She's same as Flemeth! Writer Sheryl Chee however goes in her defense. But I don't believe it!



It's all written in the toolset. Be it the current thought of what BioWare thinks we'll do, or be it just a concept, it's still something. Oh, and Morrigan, or at least her concept, is 30 years old.

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1) 6 months for a baby ? Someone's been drinking Oghren's ****** ale a little bit too much, it takes 9 months to fully develop a baby, 6 months the baby is missing some essentials to live properly.



2) Morrigan won't be appearing, she made it clear she didn't want to be found.

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Alandros wrote...

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I've recently taken to NOT doing the ritual with her at all. I think my favorite ending is "Anora/Alistair marry, Loghain joins the Grey Wardens and redeems himself slaying the archdemon."


Interesting since that ending is impossible.


Sure it's possible.. if you harden Alistair he can marry Anora and still leave Loghain alive.  Hence Loghain then take the kill on the Archdemon and die.


I heard he totally despises your character at the end if you do that, though. Ick, Anora, don't like her. She's practically as evil as Morrigan and Flemeth. You'd think after her husband, who she claimed to love, is killed, by her own father, she would be angry and grieving more instead of desperately trying to keep her throne. A throne that is only hers through marriage and not blood. Ugh, I don't like her.

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zMessenjah wrote...

Personally Morrigan is one of my favs. I love the mystery surrounding her character & found it interesting how she does not know how to deal w/her feelings when it comes to love & the feelings she has for my guy.
In my game my guy did the "dark deed" & had a more than friends relationship w/her practically the whole game so doing the dark deed was not a task for my guy. lol
* I'm praying that the kid is not pure evil or that Morrigan isn't going to use the kid for evil purposes.
*Maybe the kid will hold the key for us Grey Wardens overcoming the fate that possessing the taint in our body does (the dying in 30 yrs) or since the kid has our tainted blood, & the "essence of an old God" maybe this will be some freaky rebirth of Griffons??? That is the most radical thought I have on the kid.
Either way there are soooo many directions that this Morrigan "entanglement" can go....I anxiously await the game that lets me find her. However I will be shocked out of my mind if she is in Awakening.


Ooh, interesting. The rebirth of the griffons. I never thought of that. :)

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Technically speaking, her husband was killed by an Ogre. And given the charge time, my guess is that the king would have died anyway. Ultimately, it's the PC's fault. You should have gone faster through the tower....



Still, I did a perfect ending once, with everyone alive. Hopefully that being my favorite ending. Alistair isn't really hating you if you let Loghain live. He's more like a kid, when you steal his favorite toy.

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Oh I forgot to mention, In my game since I had a "relationship" w/ Morrigan the whole game.... No matter if I did the dark deed at the end or not she was still prego.



So, if my guy is with her, but doesn't do the dark ritual, she still ends up pregnant in the end? Hmm. Either she cheated on my guy with Riordan or Alistair, or she just ends up preganant with a, what...normal child. Interesting.

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Technically speaking, her husband was killed by an Ogre. And given the charge time, my guess is that the king would have died anyway. Ultimately, it's the PC's fault. You should have gone faster through the tower....



Sorry. I should've said set up and left to die by her own father instead.

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I think she gets pregnant in the many nights passed at doing a little something... More interesting would be a romance without the sex scene. If hypothetically it would give the same pregnant ending, then this means she cheated on you, pretty much so... Which removes another + point from Morrigan for me. God, and I thought I could not hate her more....

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yeah right, if you actually had a night with Morrigan and make this ending with her. The darkspawn is simply changing into an ork-like tribe.

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dark-lauron wrote...

I think she gets pregnant in the many nights passed at doing a little something... More interesting would be a romance without the sex scene. If hypothetically it would give the same pregnant ending, then this means she cheated on you, pretty much so... Which removes another + point from Morrigan for me. God, and I thought I could not hate her more....


It might not even be Riordan or Alistair...I don't take her with me everywhere I go, after all, so it could be any of your male companions who are in a holding pattern at party camp for all we know. lol

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whatever113 wrote...

Anyone else think that maybe the new Darkspawn enemy is the baby that Morrigan had? Wouldnt that be a trip having to kill your kid.


The child need to be born first..then grow up..determine what kind of character he/she is..good or evil.

Seems to me Morrigan stated it would not have the taint, so folks calling it a "demon child" or something similar, is not correct.

I think this is a big piece of story...probably going to take a whole expansion itself perhaps..

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Daneres wrote...

zMessenjah wrote...

Personally Morrigan is one of my favs. I love the mystery surrounding her character & found it interesting how she does not know how to deal w/her feelings when it comes to love & the feelings she has for my guy.
In my game my guy did the "dark deed" & had a more than friends relationship w/her practically the whole game so doing the dark deed was not a task for my guy. lol
* I'm praying that the kid is not pure evil or that Morrigan isn't going to use the kid for evil purposes.
*Maybe the kid will hold the key for us Grey Wardens overcoming the fate that possessing the taint in our body does (the dying in 30 yrs) or since the kid has our tainted blood, & the "essence of an old God" maybe this will be some freaky rebirth of Griffons??? That is the most radical thought I have on the kid.
Either way there are soooo many directions that this Morrigan "entanglement" can go....I anxiously await the game that lets me find her. However I will be shocked out of my mind if she is in Awakening.


Ooh, interesting. The rebirth of the griffons. I never thought of that. :)


The rebirth of the griffons..or the finding of a remote isolated nest somewhere,  with surviving babies and parents. 

THAT is one of my wishes...griffons are part of the lore.   After all, if the dragons could be hunted to the brink of extinction and STILL come back, my thinking is..same could work for the griffons.

But we'll see what the writers have planned I guess. :)