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[zMessenjah]

Daneres wrote...

Oh I forgot to mention, In my game since I had a "relationship" w/ Morrigan the whole game.... No matter if I did the dark deed at the end or not she was still prego.

So, if my guy is with her, but doesn't do the dark ritual, she still ends up pregnant in the end? Hmm. Either she cheated on my guy with Riordan or Alistair, or she just ends up preganant with a, what...normal child. Interesting.

Even though my character died in that game...at the very end it said that she was w/child & there was talk that the child was to her lover (my character,Logan) & was seen traveling through the Frost Back Mountains.
So that sorta rules out it is to Allistar or Riordan, atleast in  my mind, & she leaves right after you turn her down so I really doubt it is to either of those guys.
It also made me wonder, since I died in that game.. is someone in particular going to bring me back to life??? meaning Morrigan? My guy is in possession of the ring she gave me that supposedly lets her find me? I assume that works weather I'm dead or alive? But,Maybe that is wishful thinking.
When I found out she was still prego & rumors say it is to my guy..I was like... Hmm?? This is a normal kid to carry on my name/an heir to the Couslands?  I find that very interesting too. 

However I see sooo many more possibilities & questions in the story line with the Dark Deed Ending.
I have a save of both games & will play them both on the expansion & future DA2 just to see what happens.
I am sooo Anxious to find out where this story line goes ... I feel like a lil' kid waiting for Christmas morn.

Modifié par zMessenjah, 21 février 2010 - 12:05 .

[Jackimole]

No, because not everyone choose to have the baby. So half of the players wouldn't have anything to fight...

[Veritasinpersonam]

The only problem with the Riordan as the daddy theory (presuming she seduces him or manipulates him with blood magic) is that in-game the slaying Warden STILL dies. The Warden would not die unless the archdemon transfers into him so characters would still know that something isn't on the up and up.

[JBC4733]

Jackimole wrote...

No, because not everyone choose to have the baby. So half of the players wouldn't have anything to fight...

Do you really think they'd ignore something like a god baby? I know there's a huge inconsistency there, but that just has suspicious/plot twist written all over it.

[Wowlock]

If what Morrigan said was true ( which I believed her that time ) then she wont raise the child as a threat. Maybe the child will become a companion or PC's character for later games.



Possibilites, Possibilities.



But I dont think a child from Morrigan wont be that ugly as ''The Children'' or darkspawn.

[Dudalizer]

Dethanos wrote...

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Morrigan's awesomeness can only fit in a full 70 hour sequel.

Is that why we didn't see any of it in Origins?

Zing!

But seriously, I can't help but feel that the baby is going to be the protagonist for a future Dragon Age game.  That or a big focus of the storyline. 

[Feraele]

Maybe Morrigan has ulterior motives and is going to use the Old God child against the Chantry?

[Daneres]

I have a new wonder. If you do the dark ritual with Morrigan at the end of the game, but you don't actually take her with you to fight the Archdemon, does that mean that your character still dies, even with the ritual? I assume she would have to be present in your party when you kill the Archdemon for her child to capture its soul? So...how does that work? Has anyone ever tried this scenario in the end. I also do find it a little amusing that after all that you would leave pregnant but not with the soul she wanted for her child. lol

[WilliamShatner]

If it's anything like ME2 it will be wrapped up in a five minute subquest that has no relation to the main story whatsoever.

[Maria Caliban]

Daneres, the ritual guides the essense of the old god to Morrigan's baby. You don't need her in the party.

[Eudaemonium]

Really? I always take her whenever I choose this option. It seems more appropriate. Plus she gets that bit of extra dialogue if you talk to her during the last level.

[Behindyounow]

What baby? I told her to get lost.

[Sabriana]

Indeed, what baby? No baby here. In none of my play-throughs did she get her wish. All of my PCs are female, so there's not even a 'normal' baby.



If she did something sneaky with Loghain/Alistair/Riordan, then Loghain/Alistair would not die when they do the sacrifice, so that makes no sense.



So the devs have to either force a canon on us non-baby people, or drop the issue. Unless Morrigan gets a god-soul into a baby any other way. If the devs planned a "Morrigan's god-baby" game/add-on, then the ritual should've been mandatory and not a player choice.

[contown]

If we never get to continue this Morrigan plotline with the current PC, I'm gonna be really dissapointed.

[Efesell]

It seems unlikely to be dropped completely..



But man, lot of variables there.

[rizla1888]

theyl be saving the previous companions as well as the morrigan story for a game in orlais or the free marches or the tevinter imperium

[Ponce de Leon]

I'm quite sure the next game will be in the Imperium (simply because of their accent). So we're likely happen to see Wynne, Shale, Sten, Alistair (Weisshaupt is there no?) and why not Morrigan (hopefully as a foe). After all, these companions are likely to be there for some reason.

[rizla1888]

and oghren if he doesnt find another wife in awakening

[Feraele]

Daneres wrote...

I have a new wonder. If you do the dark ritual with Morrigan at the end of the game, but you don't actually take her with you to fight the Archdemon, does that mean that your character still dies, even with the ritual? I assume she would have to be present in your party when you kill the Archdemon for her child to capture its soul? So...how does that work? Has anyone ever tried this scenario in the end. I also do find it a little amusing that after all that you would leave pregnant but not with the soul she wanted for her child. lol

I've left Morrigan at the city gates, in some run-throughs and others I have her with me.   The ritual works, once it is set in place.   Doesn't matter if she's in your party or not.

[Feraele]

Sabriana wrote...

Indeed, what baby? No baby here. In none of my play-throughs did she get her wish. All of my PCs are female, so there's not even a 'normal' baby.

If she did something sneaky with Loghain/Alistair/Riordan, then Loghain/Alistair would not die when they do the sacrifice, so that makes no sense.

So the devs have to either force a canon on us non-baby people, or drop the issue. Unless Morrigan gets a god-soul into a baby any other way. If the devs planned a "Morrigan's god-baby" game/add-on, then the ritual should've been mandatory and not a player choice.

That would be kind of the same scenario as me killing Loghain off for 12 play-throughs,  if he suddenly shows up unscathed, I am gonna be a little miffed.

[Sabriana]

Well, Feraele, he didn't *really* die. He was just a little bit dead.

But seriously, he never got to live past the archdemon in my play-throughs, and once he got beheaded by Alistair.

There is just no way that my PCs will ever allow that ritual, there are too many reasons against it for them. I watched the 'ritual' on YouTube. Holy....! I wouldn't do that to Alistair. Heck, I wouldn't even do it to Loghain. Alistair looks stricken, but Loghain looks terrified.

I have nothing against Morrigan. My PCs were all friends with her, until she split. But no ritual. Never. Sorry Morri.

Btw, Weisshaupt is in Anderfels, not Tevinter.

Modifié par Sabriana, 21 février 2010 - 02:41 .

[Feraele]

So I guess along with the walking dead warden, its possible we'll see a walking dead Loghain?



*shudders* ...well only if he puts his head back on.



Alas poor Loghain..I knew him well.

[Brockololly]

Sabriana wrote...
So the devs have to either force a canon on us non-baby people, or drop the issue. Unless Morrigan gets a god-soul into a baby any other way. If the devs planned a "Morrigan's god-baby" game/add-on, then the ritual should've been mandatory and not a player choice.

Given how Bioware has been tracking player choices, this is the one big choice that I would love to know how many people decided to either do or not do.

That said, even if you didn't do the Dark Ritual with Morrigan and let her run off, she still is obsesssed with the Old Gods and seemingly not one to just give up with whatever she was trying to do with the Old God Baby. Perhaps the Old God Baby is just a means to an end and she can achieve this end someway else? In my pure speculation, it just seems too convenient that the Architect wants to kill all the Old Gods and conveniently Morrigan wants to seemingly save an Old God....conflict brewing?

But given how it seems Bioware is allowing a bit of hand waving with the lack of story repercussions  for those who did the Ultimate Sacrifice, what is to say they won't do the same with the Dark Ritual? I just wish if they were going to eventually force canon choices on a player, they would just make the choice mandatory in the first place instead of giving the player the illusion of a meaningful choice with consequences.

Modifié par Brockololly, 21 février 2010 - 03:10 .

[Sabriana]

Oh, I figured it out. Between Feraele's and Brockololly's input it did indeed.

See, Morrigan didn't really run of. She waited and then she snuck into Loghain's bedroom, did some witch stuff and got impregnated. The guy never knew. Het hought he just had a wet dream or something.
She then gave him a witch-herb (somehow) and he fell into a dead-like trance right after killing the archdemon. He got buried and stuff, but then he woke up.

Why did she do that?
Don't bother me with technicallities, ok?
We have to keep him alive for his cameo, so don't be so sodding pedantic. Go with the flow.

Now for the solution of the headless horseman ah, Loghain. *Ponders* I got it. Morrigan snuck into the place where they put the corpse, superglued his head back on, gave him joining juice that she stole from Riordan, and got herself pregnant before he had a chance to wake up completely. She then told him to hide until the archdemon was dead.

What?
Again with the why's and how's?
Nitpicker, pffft. What do you mean why did Alistair die then? He..., he slipped on a banana peel and cracked his head open when he yanked the sword back out of the archdemon. Fruit can be deadly you know.

Modifié par Sabriana, 21 février 2010 - 03:36 .

[Feraele]

Brockololly wrote...

Sabriana wrote...
So the devs have to either force a canon on us non-baby people, or drop the issue. Unless Morrigan gets a god-soul into a baby any other way. If the devs planned a "Morrigan's god-baby" game/add-on, then the ritual should've been mandatory and not a player choice.

Given how Bioware has been tracking player choices, this is the one big choice that I would love to know how many people decided to either do or not do.

That said, even if you didn't do the Dark Ritual with Morrigan and let her run off, she still is obsesssed with the Old Gods and seemingly not one to just give up with whatever she was trying to do with the Old God Baby. Perhaps the Old God Baby is just a means to an end and she can achieve this end someway else? In my pure speculation, it just seems too convenient that the Architect wants to kill all the Old Gods and conveniently Morrigan wants to seemingly save an Old God....conflict brewing?

But given how it seems Bioware is allowing a bit of hand waving with the lack of story repercussions  for those who did the Ultimate Sacrifice, what is to say they won't do the same with the Dark Ritual? I just wish if they were going to eventually force canon choices on a player, they would just make the choice mandatory in the first place instead of giving the player the illusion of a meaningful choice with consequences.

Heh wouldn't that be something..if an epic battle broke out between Morrigan's Old God child and the next tainted Old God aka Archdemon.    I could really see that one.