seriously, in the first game the romance mechanic was such a minor subplot to the actual game and didnt even really matter. that didnt stop people obsessing over characters overly creepy manner but i could deal i with it, a little bit of fandom never hurt anyone and people still talked about the games other features alot.
then the creepy tali and garrus obsessives finally got their dream and in the second game not only were they were possible romance options but also thane, miranda and jacob so the romance mechanic became more important and integral to the story and now conversation about the actual game mechanics is far outnumbered by freaking LI discussion.
theres 1060 goddamn pages discussing tali, filled to the brim with fanart, fanfiction and demanding that tali stays alive. its because of crap like this that theres no real story progression in ME2, nobody even has to die and its ridiculously easy to keep everyone alive. If tali, garrus or any other character dies THEN IT WAS SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN, its called a STORY.
same with old characters returning and people complaining about their changes, "WAAAH LIARA IS NO LONGER MY SWEET AND INNOCENT LOVE". the story changed her shes grown up, done things and changed. its called character progression.
bioware doesnt owe it to you to keep love interests the same, or give you more or make previous characters suddenly have romantic feelings towards you.
MASS EFFECT IS NOT A DATING SIM.
leave this creepy romantic feelings towards a virtual character to the JRPG and anime fans. stop demanding characters be kept around or be more important in the next game. stop demanding and asking that any recurring or somewhat important character be romanceable and LET BIOWARE TELL THEIR GODDAMN STORY.
I loved the fact that characters were always going to die in ME1 and you had to decide who live and who wouldnt and i have no doubt the reason its so easy to keep everyone alive in this game is just so they dont step on any creepy fantics toes. its a shame that what will possibly be one of the best trilogies ever will have its story telling watered down to allow people to keep every character they like.
yes, they do want you to be able to decide the outcome of your game but not to the degree where they cant force you to make any real gamechanging decisions just so you can keep getting alien tail.
now go ahead and dismiss this entire post and bump the the dedicated character threads up 5 more pages and make threads asking Dr.chakwas and joker to be LI in me3 or even ask for more graphic sex scenes some more.
this romance obsession NEEDS to stop.
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Posté 17 février 2010 - 09:20
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Romance discussions like this have been around since the days of Baldur's Gate.
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Posté 17 février 2010 - 09:20
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You paid for the game. Play it however you want. But you didn't buy my copy of the game, so I'll play it the way I want.
If someone finds the relationships the most compelling part of the game for them, there's nothing wrong with that at all.
If someone finds the relationships the most compelling part of the game for them, there's nothing wrong with that at all.
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Posté 17 février 2010 - 09:20
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If you don't like them, just ignore them geez, nobody's forcing you to make relationships in the game or read the threads.
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Posté 17 février 2010 - 09:23
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yeah, like i said dismiss this entire post. these were the reactions i was expexting "cool story bro" "whatever man". i wrote this more for me than anything else, i wasn't expecting any of you to actually try to argue back or say im wrong or prove that im wrong or agree with me and say why im right.
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Posté 17 février 2010 - 09:23
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Haters gonna hate.
The reason people are so dismissive of this post is because it's not the first, and each one always says the same thing (the inevitable "DATING SIM DERP" argument.) If you want a real discussion you may want to avoid using phrases like that; it's divisive.
That said, people discuss romances because interpersonal relationships resonate with the masses. Not everyone can be bothered to understand heatsink mechanics or discuss the philosophical quandaries of geth sentience, as fascinating as those things are. But everyone understands what a relationship is.
The reason people are so dismissive of this post is because it's not the first, and each one always says the same thing (the inevitable "DATING SIM DERP" argument.) If you want a real discussion you may want to avoid using phrases like that; it's divisive.
That said, people discuss romances because interpersonal relationships resonate with the masses. Not everyone can be bothered to understand heatsink mechanics or discuss the philosophical quandaries of geth sentience, as fascinating as those things are. But everyone understands what a relationship is.
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Posté 17 février 2010 - 09:24
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These anti-romance-obsession threads NEED to stop!
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Posté 17 février 2010 - 09:24
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Marschun wrote...
yeah, like i said dismiss this entire post. these were the reactions i was expexting "cool story bro" "whatever man". i wrote this more for me than anything else, i wasn't expecting any of you to actually try to argue back or say im wrong or prove that im wrong or agree with me and say why im right.
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Posté 17 février 2010 - 09:24
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Marschun wrote...
yeah, like i said dismiss this entire post. these were the reactions i was expexting "cool story bro" "whatever man". i wrote this more for me than anything else, i wasn't expecting any of you to actually try to argue back or say im wrong or prove that im wrong or agree with me and say why im right.
So the whole point was to get it off your chest? Should of wrote it on Notepad or dictated it :happy:
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Posté 17 février 2010 - 09:25
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It is alittle creepy and i mean that with a smile! But its understandable that they like a character.
And OP, you could just ignore the topic. Not like you have to read it. =/
And OP, you could just ignore the topic. Not like you have to read it. =/
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Posté 17 février 2010 - 09:25
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realistic in depth characterization is realistic and in depth, hence likable character is likable regardless of virtual existence That's how i attempt to understand it.
ME has a canon, but one of its shining qualities as an RPG is the fact that you are free to create your own as well, with just as much validity.
ME has a canon, but one of its shining qualities as an RPG is the fact that you are free to create your own as well, with just as much validity.
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Posté 17 février 2010 - 09:26
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Well.... I dont like "romance post" either... I also find them quite strange... But I would never write something like this. If these people want to play this game like this - let they play. Where is the problem? I didnt romance anyone in ME (I. and II.), because I believe, it is unprofesional (for my shep. In second playthrough I romanced Jack (only), just because It went well to my imagination of current Shepp... Still - dont see problem.
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Posté 17 février 2010 - 09:27
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aww, those sound like the words of a person scorned. did mordin turn you down? its alrite, call kelly up for some asari stripper dancing, that'll cheer you up!
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Posté 17 février 2010 - 09:27
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Marschun wrote...
yeah, like i said dismiss this entire post. these were the reactions i was expexting "cool story bro" "whatever man". i wrote this more for me than anything else, i wasn't expecting any of you to actually try to argue back or say im wrong or prove that im wrong or agree with me and say why im right.
There's nothing to argue. Its your opinion and you're entitled to it. Thats what opinions are.
But just because you have an opinion it doesnt mean that anyone who has a different one is wrong somehow. The beauty of games like Mass Effect is that they tailor themselves to the person playing it and how they choose to play. Your game isn't my game.
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Posté 17 février 2010 - 09:28
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I love it when people post stuff like this. It entertains me. 
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Posté 17 février 2010 - 09:28
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I support a Marschun romance option in ME3.
To be serious, though, I agree the obsession with romances sometimes gets a little...annoying. I don't mind them in game. They're optional and they aren't a major part of the game, but some people seem to talk about them as if the game should just become a dating sim.
To be serious, though, I agree the obsession with romances sometimes gets a little...annoying. I don't mind them in game. They're optional and they aren't a major part of the game, but some people seem to talk about them as if the game should just become a dating sim.
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Posté 17 février 2010 - 09:28
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SU37 wrote...
I love it when people post stuff like this. It entertains me.
Especially the responses to that kind of threads are hilarious!
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Posté 17 février 2010 - 09:28
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These sex discussions in Shakespeare need to stop!!!
My point is in every story there are fundamental elements that draw people. Action, drama, and of course romances are integral parts of most every story. Every action movie usually has a woman involved in some matter. Dramas revolve around romance, tragedies even more so. The need for romantic contact is a part of our nature and that is reflected in our entertainment and art. What would your rather us talk about? Wow, that biotic slam was so awesome, dropped that chick right into the ocean!!!!
Anyway, romances have always been in Bioware games. They are major plot points and usually are well written (moreso than other games) and rewarding. Stop the hate crimes!!!
My point is in every story there are fundamental elements that draw people. Action, drama, and of course romances are integral parts of most every story. Every action movie usually has a woman involved in some matter. Dramas revolve around romance, tragedies even more so. The need for romantic contact is a part of our nature and that is reflected in our entertainment and art. What would your rather us talk about? Wow, that biotic slam was so awesome, dropped that chick right into the ocean!!!!
Anyway, romances have always been in Bioware games. They are major plot points and usually are well written (moreso than other games) and rewarding. Stop the hate crimes!!!
