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[Skilled Seeker]

Please don't compare Docter Who to Mass Effect. Docter Who is low budget science fantasy for the plebs. Mass Effect is mature science fiction.

[wolfsite]

Skilled Seeker wrote...

Please don't compare Docter Who to Mass Effect. Docter Who is low budget science fantasy for the plebs. Mass Effect is mature science fiction.

Well when Mass Effect is around for almost 50 years come back and say told you so.

Doctor Who has gone back forth in terms of Maturity and family friendly but has always brought something to the table that everyone can enjoy.  Hell if the BBC gave Doctor Who the budget it deserved in the original run I doubt it would have been put on Hiatus in 89.

And thank you for taking the time to insult Doctor Who fans everywhere, I'm sure we really appreciate it.

[Skilled Seeker]

Well if Docter Who got mature and dumped the kids, had science that was at least believable not f*cking space whales and moving statues that come out of video tapes, and had some proper special effects then I might enjoy it. Oh and dump the Daleks already and think up a new adversary. How can the Daleks even build stuff without arms?

Modifié par Skilled Seeker, 05 mai 2010 - 03:56 .

[wolfsite]

Skilled Seeker wrote...

Well if Docter Who got mature and dumped the kids, had science that was at least believable not f*cking space whales and moving statues that come out of video tapes, and had some proper special effects then I might enjoy it. Oh and dump the Daleks already and think up a new adversary. How can the Daleks even build stuff without arms?

It's Science..... FICTION.  Just sit back and enjoy the ride.  How can you have fun and enjoy if you spend all your time analyzing and complaining at every little detail.

Noy quite sure why you keep using "Mature" as your main problem since that word has been dragged threw the mud it lost it's main focus of meaning, are you refering to Mature as in blood sex and violence or Mature as in an intellectual story that challenges the audience and gives a different perspective of reality?  (I should go dig out some examples for the upcoming reply)

[GOYAFIDO]

Skilled Seeker wrote...

Please don't compare Docter Who to Mass Effect. Docter Who is low budget science fantasy for the plebs. Mass Effect is mature science fiction.

While Mass Effect is a good game with a good storyline it has nowhere near the length and breadth of material, backstory, (or the viewers) that Doctor Who has.

[Skilled Seeker]

GOYAFIDO wrote...

Skilled Seeker wrote...

Please don't compare Docter Who to Mass Effect. Docter Who is low budget science fantasy for the plebs. Mass Effect is mature science fiction.

While Mass Effect is a good game with a good storyline it has nowhere near the length and breadth of material, backstory, (or the viewers) that Doctor Who has.

Of course not because it hasn't been around for nearly as long. An ancient turd is still a turd though.

[Azint]

I would like to see mass relays making these noises.

[wolfsite]

Skilled Seeker wrote...

GOYAFIDO wrote...

Skilled Seeker wrote...

Please don't compare Docter Who to Mass Effect. Docter Who is low budget science fantasy for the plebs. Mass Effect is mature science fiction.

While Mass Effect is a good game with a good storyline it has nowhere near the length and breadth of material, backstory, (or the viewers) that Doctor Who has.

Of course not because it hasn't been around for nearly as long. An ancient turd is still a turd though.

I was wondering what that smell was when you posted.

[Skilled Seeker]

As I said Docter Who is FANTASY. It doesn't even try to give scientific explanations for all the crazy it has which science FICTION is supposed to.

[wolfsite]

Skilled Seeker wrote...

As I said Docter Who is FANTASY. It doesn't even try to give scientific explanations for all the crazy it has which science FICTION is supposed to.

I have Watched a lot of Doctor who and they do give explanations (yes in some cases it is rather far fetched but that is normally when they are dealing with a purely fictional concept).  I get the feeling you are suffering from selective memory in order to re inforce that your opinion has validity.

[Notho]

I like Dr Who. I also like Mass Effect. Also:



EXTERMINATE!! never gets old

[GOYAFIDO]

Skilled Seeker wrote...

As I said Docter Who is FANTASY. It doesn't even try to give scientific explanations for all the crazy it has which science FICTION is supposed to.

Hmm.  Star Wars.  Little or no tech that I remember.  I think maybe you watch too much Star Trek where they go into great detail as to how and why the diatic-thingywhatsis reverse hoodilates under various spectra of light in months beginning with the letter j in odd years in that repainted sharper image nose hair trimmer they use as a medical scanning device...

[wolfsite]

GOYAFIDO wrote...

Skilled Seeker wrote...

As I said Docter Who is FANTASY. It doesn't even try to give scientific explanations for all the crazy it has which science FICTION is supposed to.

Hmm.  Star Wars.  Little or no tech that I remember.  I think maybe you watch too much Star Trek where they go into great detail as to how and why the diatic-thingywhatsis reverse hoodilates under various spectra of light in months beginning with the letter j in odd years in that repainted sharper image nose hair trimmer they use as a medical scanning device...

It's Doctor Who, you just "Reverse the Polarity of the Neutron Flow"     (wow I'm really geeking out here)

[GOYAFIDO]

Skilled Seeker wrote...

GOYAFIDO wrote...

Skilled Seeker wrote...

Please don't compare Docter Who to Mass Effect. Docter Who is low budget science fantasy for the plebs. Mass Effect is mature science fiction.

While Mass Effect is a good game with a good storyline it has nowhere near the length and breadth of material, backstory, (or the viewers) that Doctor Who has.

Of course not because it hasn't been around for nearly as long. An ancient turd is still a turd though.

I and others appreciate you writing this.  I think we all need a good laugh sometimes.

Skilled Seeker wrote...

Please don't compare Docter Who to Mass Effect. Docter Who is low budget science fantasy for the plebs. Mass Effect is mature science fiction.

Making statements like the above without any sort of support is just mental drooling:

BRAWK!!! Please don't compare Docter Who to Mass Effect. Docter Who is low budget science fantasy for the plebs. Mass Effect is mature science fiction.  BRAWK!!!

Prove it.  No, a $10.00 word like "plebs" doesn't make up for all the empty space.
 
Beyond that, this is a silly assertion.

Mature science fiction?  Mature in what way exactly?  Because they don't use cheesy special effects?  What other differences are there?

Cast of odd, wacky characters each of whom is a hero in his/her own right?  Check.

Somewhat thought-provoking plot lines that deal with relationships, family, love, sacrifice, war, racism, killing, free thought, including a grail to retrieve and a dragon to slay and  even companion loyalty quests?  Check.  

Odd over-powered technology?  Check.

Butt stroking, shooting, blowing people up?  Check.

Drinking? Check.

Romance?  Check.

Feel free to fill in anything I missed.  Doctor Who has it.




   

Modifié par GOYAFIDO, 06 mai 2010 - 12:09 .

[KarmaTheAlligator]

Doctor Who is about the story, not the special effects, even if they did get a bit heavy in the latest series.



Back on topic, I'm not sure if the Reapers' weapons would do anything to the Daleks. Or vice-versa, really. They probably be stuck for ever in dark space trying to kill each other.

[kalpain]

Azint wrote...

I would like to see mass relays making these noises.

This...

[GOYAFIDO]

wolfsite wrote...

GOYAFIDO wrote...

Skilled Seeker wrote...

As I said Docter Who is FANTASY. It doesn't even try to give scientific explanations for all the crazy it has which science FICTION is supposed to.

Hmm.  Star Wars.  Little or no tech that I remember.  I think maybe you watch too much Star Trek where they go into great detail as to how and why the diatic-thingywhatsis reverse hoodilates under various spectra of light in months beginning with the letter j in odd years in that repainted sharper image nose hair trimmer they use as a medical scanning device...

It's Doctor Who, you just "Reverse the Polarity of the Neutron Flow"     (wow I'm really geeking out here)

Exactly.

[Kissamies]

Ah, arguing about the "hardness" in SF. I love that topic. Here's a good read:
http://tvtropes.org/...FictionHardness

That Time Lord technology is supposed to be so advanced that it's pretty much impossible to be very hard with it. It's still funny how the rules of time travel tend to change depending who's writing the episodes. Well, time is a big ball of wibbly-wobbly, timey-wimey stuff, meaning we are not supposed to take it so seriously.

Mass Effect tends to have some impressively hard concepts in the codex, but they are sometimes ignored when we see them in action. It's still pretty soft universe overall.

Not that I care that much if it's "soft" or "hard." Good story is a good story. What I don't like that much is when something pretends to be all scientific and realistic and it's not.

[HBC Dresden]

To the OP, I love British sci-fi (Well, mostly Doctor Who and Red Dwarf), and Moffat is Doctor Who's best writer!



To the post above, I love using tvtropes.org in analyzing shows and stuff.

[Sesshomaru47]

Lightice_av wrote...

No lovers of British sci-fi here, I see.

Yes and that wasn't the season finale it hasn't aired yet.

New Doctor is sweet too (didn't want to say how awsomely great looking he is). I don't miss Tennant, Mr. Teeth. As for the ME refference. No, it's Doctor Who, they're always going on about dark space, BioWare stole it from them.

[Bugsie]

I thought the new series music had a bit of ME flavour - during some scenes I could close my eyes and imagine me doing the suicide run!



I'm a huge fan of Brit Scifi - maybe someday they'll do an re-imagining of Blakes 7 (althought I guess some might argue firefly came close). I was a bit worried the new Dr might be a bit young - but I'm warming to him.

[Dean_the_Young]

Who is Doctor Who?

[Apollo Rising]

Notho wrote...

I like Dr Who. I also like Mass Effect. Also:



EXTERMINATE!! never gets old

I love the Daleks....EXTERMINATE...EXTERMINATE....cracks me up every time. Been a Dr. Who fan for over 30 years and the Daleks are still hysterical,

[Bugsie]

Dean_the_Young wrote...

Who is Doctor Who?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_Who

[Bogsnot1]

Buggirl70 wrote...

I thought the new series music had a bit of ME flavour - during some scenes I could close my eyes and imagine me doing the suicide run!

I'm a huge fan of Brit Scifi - maybe someday they'll do an re-imagining of Blakes 7 (althought I guess some might argue firefly came close). I was a bit worried the new Dr might be a bit young - but I'm warming to him.

Silly question, but have you tried www.blakes7.com ?