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[Skilled Seeker]

AC is a good game and I am disappointed at Ubisoft's approach. This will only ENCOURAGE pirating since cracked copies won't need to be connected to the internet all the time. Its really a crazy idea.

[Skilled Seeker]

Arbiter Libera wrote...

It's gonna get cracked or avoided in some other way days after release, we all know it... I just don't get it how come some companies fail to understand that quality games are the only effective anti-piracy measures. If someone wants to buy the game, he WILL buy it irrelevant of the fact if he first tries it via some other method, pirates won't buy the game in any case.

Concentrate on rewarding your honest buyers, not treating them like scum.

QFT

[Zhaosen]

update...



http://arstechnica.c...tm_campaign=rss

We reached out to Ubisoft to see how accurate this account was. "As long as you do not quit the game, the game will continue to try to reconnect for an unlimited time. Once the game is able to reconnect, you will immediately be returned to your game," Ars was told. What about your progress?



"Where exactly you are reconnected in the game may differ from title to title. Settlers 7 reconnects at the exact point where the connection was lost, AC2 reconnects you at the last checkpoint (and not the last auto save, as indicated in the CVG article). There are many checkpoints so you're back to the point where you got disconnected in no time."



We were assured that only happens if the disconnection is lengthy. If you're cut off for just a second or two, the game simply pauses and continues on. Ars was also told that nothing will happen if your connection slows down. "Our online services platform will require a maximum of 50kbps of available bandwidth, so even with the slowest connection, gameplay won’t be affected."



Since upcoming Ubisoft PC games will require you to be connected to the Internet through your entire gaming session, members the armed forces may have a hard time playing games on their laptops. If you're flying, you'll have to pay for onflight Internet or not play. If your Internet goes out in your house, you can't play, and if you were playing while it happened, you could lose progress.

[Nitrox6]

Yes, this is ridiculous duh... I'm happy that i have xbox 360 so i will not have problems like this with Assasins creed 3, but in my opinion Ubisoft is joking so much with Theirs later games.

[invert180]

I can understand wanting to protect your software from piracy.  Developers want (and deserve) the money they get for quality titles.  As an example, I'd never pirate a BioWare game.  I happily shovel money to their doorstep in order to support their continued awesomeness.  People nowadays, for the most part, know and understand that video games don't grow on trees.  If you want great game developers to continue to exist, you've got to support them.  Plain and simple.

But come on... the people at Ubisoft can't seriously believe this will prevent piracy.  They've been making fantastic games for a long time now, so they have to be smarter than that.  It'll be cracked on day one.  Or even before the game officially releases, as is the case for nearly all titles.  DRM is such a waste of money.  Then, while the pirates are enjoying their DRM-free gaming experience, individuals who actually purchased the game will be fuming about how they can't play because their internet crapped out.

In the end, moves like this is what supports and encourages piracy.  Why the hell would I want to purchase something that relies on some unpredictable variable to be active at all times?  If a developer wants to treat me like a pirate, I'll happily behave like a pirate.

[wrexingcrew]

I intend to boycott Ubisoft releases across all platforms (I own a 360, PS3, and decent PC because I'm a gaming-addicted moron) as long as this DRM policy continues. I enjoyed the first AC and meant to pick up AC2. I was intrigued by the new Splinter Cell. Now, I can't in good conscience send any money Ubisoft's way. More importantly than a boycott, though, Alec Meer (over at RPS) points out:

"That energy you’re intending to spend on leaving a comment about how much you despise Ubisoft for this? Don’t waste it here, squandered on hate that goes nowhere but your keyboard. Go spend it on calmly explaining what it really means to someone who might unwittingly buy one of these games. Let those potential customers who don’t instantly pick up online scandal, or who aren’t web- or tech-savvy enough to know how to comb through the surface screaming and find the meat of the argument know why this system will prevent them from enjoying something they’ve paid for. That’s what this is about."

Meer's probably understating the importance of internet feedback, but his point about spreading our knowledge is an excellent one, I think.

Modifié par wrexingcrew, 19 février 2010 - 10:42 .

[Rubbish Hero]

This will fail.

[Doug84]

wrexingcrew wrote...


I intend to boycott Ubisoft releases across all platforms (I own a 360, PS3, and decent PC because I'm a gaming-addicted moron) as long as this DRM policy continues. I enjoyed the first AC and meant to pick up AC2. I was intrigued by the new Splinter Cell. Now, I can't in good conscience send any money Ubisoft's way. More importantly than a boycott, though, Alec Meer (over at RPS) points out:

"That energy you’re intending to spend on leaving a comment about how much you despise Ubisoft for this? Don’t waste it here, squandered on hate that goes nowhere but your keyboard. Go spend it on calmly explaining what it really means to someone who might unwittingly buy one of these games. Let those potential customers who don’t instantly pick up online scandal, or who aren’t web- or tech-savvy enough to know how to comb through the surface screaming and find the meat of the argument know why this system will prevent them from enjoying something they’ve paid for. That’s what this is about."

Meer's probably understating the importance of internet feedback, but his point about spreading our knowledge is an excellent one, I think.

I'm going to definately boycott Ubisoft games on PC for now, and I'm tempted to extend that to XBox. As for spreading the word, I don't really have any gamer friends to spread it too.

[eriaa]

I was planning on getting AC2 when it came out for PC, but now I will most likely not. I can borrow my brothers PS3 and rent it. I don't have an issue with being online, but it's the principle of it for me, I just can't support it. Also, I cannot support the 59.99 price tag for a PC game. Sure it comes with the recent DLC, but PC gamers also had to wait months to get it.

Also, the arguement that developers should just make better games, and people won't pirate is null. People will pirate no matter what...even if it's the best game ever.

[Giubba]

Skilled Seeker wrote...

Arbiter Libera wrote...

It's gonna get cracked or avoided in some other way days after release, we all know it... I just don't get it how come some companies fail to understand that quality games are the only effective anti-piracy measures. If someone wants to buy the game, he WILL buy it irrelevant of the fact if he first tries it via some other method, pirates won't buy the game in any case.

Concentrate on rewarding your honest buyers, not treating them like scum.

QFT

QQFT

[Mordaedil]

Worst part of this deal isn't if you have a good connection or not. It's entirely dependent on THEIR servers and your uplink to THEM. If your connection is too slow to provide the constant stream of data for approval, they are going to kick you out of the game.



This is one DRM solution that made me draw the conclusion that I will not buy Assassin's Creed 2, unless they fix this.

[MtnSloth]

And does anyone really believe that they will patch the game so it works without the servers before they shutdown said servers? Yeah. Me neither.

[mass_addict]

I quit PC gaming about 2 years ago... As for this DRM bs, it's killing PC gaming even more imho. Being required to have an internet connection to play a single player game is rediculous. I can see the merit in it, especially since pirating is a problem, but this isn't the way to battle it -- not by making the legitmiate user go through hoops to enjoy his or her game. I'm sure this will be incredibly buggy, not to mention, as many people suggested in this thread already, ISP's aren't reliable AT ALL, at least not in Canada. It almost seems like they are TRYING to kill the PC market... which for the record, I don't have any problem with. Not anymore anyway since I've been enlightened by gaming consoles which are CHEAP, more efficient, more portable, etc. PC's are costly to maintain, driver issues with hardware/software, big, loud, the list goes on. I miss the mouse and keyboard at times, but all the extra maintenance for what? The freedom to surf the web and check your email? I can use my laptop for that... or my phone even (or you can pick up a cheap netbook). The market for high end PC's is dying, people need to realize that.

Modifié par mass_addict, 28 février 2010 - 02:13 .

[Sloth Of Doom]

At first I thought that this would make me want to boycott ubisoft games, just on principal. My internet connection is great, and has only dropped once that i know of in the last 5 years, but that is not the point at all. Why should I have to worry about it? What if I want to game on my laptop? What if I don;t want to waste the bandwidth so ubisoft can have a finger up my arse as I play? The whole thing just pisses me off.



So you may ask, why am I not boycotting ubisoft games if I am so upset by this? Simple: It isn't enough. I'm the type of person that enjoys irony. Wouldn't be ironic if anti piracy measures drove more people to pirate things? treating legitimate customers like the enemy is a surefire way to make them become the enemy. If I am going to be treated like a pirate I might as well go get an eyepatch and start buckling some swashes.

[MerinTB]

I'm just lucky Ubisoft doesn't make games I like.

[Sloth Of Doom]

MerinTB wrote...

I'm just lucky Ubisoft doesn't make games I like.

This is true, most ubisoft games are rated M for "Meh"

[Arbiter Libera]

It would indeed appear that Ubisoft simply doesn't get it and this whole thing has been yet another who-knows-how-many millions of dollars down the drain. Latest news; game gets updated to version 1.01 even before it's release and Ubisoft denies rumors (or facts with proof, if you mingle with the right people) that their DRM has already been cracked.

kotaku.com/5485359/ubisoft-making-emergency-changes-to-pc-drm

Modifié par Arbiter Libera, 04 mars 2010 - 08:09 .

[MtnSloth]

Ubisoft's DRM servers have been down most of the day. I feel bad for the gamers this is impacting, but can't help but think that this is the sort of thing that Ubisoft has brought on itself.

www.rockpapershotgun.com/2010/03/08/ubisofts-drm-servers-broken-all-day/

Modifié par MtnSloth, 08 mars 2010 - 06:03 .