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[didymos1120]

mrsph wrote...

Besides. The asari are the most blatant fanservice in the games anyway.

Yep.  They were even deliberately modeled on previous "hot alien babe" fanservice.

[PlumPaul93]

Yes, although it might have been better and made it not look like fanservice if ya know the fact that humans can romance turians or quarians was made apparent in ME1.

[Saberchic]

Marta Rio wrote...

Saberchic wrote...

Holy Thread-necro Batman! lol

Not that this isn't a fun topic to discuss (Yes, yes they were absolutely fan service but I don't care because they were awesome!), but how in the heck are people finding these threads to necro?  When I try searching for anything I just end up giving up in frustration...

I feel your pain, but some people are just thread-searching ninjas... or they posted in a thread ages ago and looked it up in their older posts.

[Someone With Mass]

I didn't care that much about Tali's people before she came back in ME2. I'm glad that changed.

[Vormaerin]

MajesticJazz wrote...

Again, LOTSB was a DLC that continued a subplot in ME2. Not really fanservice.

You have a strange definition of fanservice.  There's nothing that makes fanservice inimical to the plot.   It just means "something done specifically to please the fans"   Gratuitious Renegade Interrupts are fan service, too.  It doesn't advance the plot any for me to humiliate some random guy standing in a bar or corridor who you never see again.  Its just there to please Renegade players who like to be bullying types.

The entire concept of romances is pure fan service.  They get disproportionate attention because that's what the fans want.  Even though most of them are borderline ridiculous.    The only two in ME2 that I thought were believable interactions were  Tali and Kelly.     Miranda just seemed to fall out of the sky.   Which does happen, granted, but is rather dull.  And Jack... well, I guess I'm tired of the long string of "bad girls who want to be loved" in BW games.

[AdmiralCheez]

Ah yes, "necros."

Anyway, I picked up ME1 at the same time as ME2 and played them back-to-back. As a relative newcomer to the series, I didn't know about the forums or the fanbases or anything. The Garrus/Talimances did not seem, to me at least, to be any different than the others. They didn't stand out as being tacked on for the sake of appeasing anyone.

Unlike Thane and Miranda. Seriously, it took me half a minute to realize that they were designed to be romance bait. Jacob and Liara sort of were as well, come to think of it.  They weren't bad characters, per se, but it was obvious that the writers were hoping you found them sexy.

Yeah, Tali comes across as a bit of a fangirl. However she, like Garrus, was your friend long before your LI. The trust and respect came first, and that, I think, made their romantic subplots hit a little closer to home for me.

To be honest, I never considered any of the romances tacked-on or sloppily written. Yeah, Jacob's was weird because Shepard does all the flirting, and yeah, ME1's got a little annoying with how you could talk to 'em once and they thought you were in a relationship (not to mention the dialogue loops with Liara), but it never once felt like anyone was breaking character because The Fans Demand It.

Modifié par AdmiralCheez, 21 avril 2011 - 01:11 .

[gosimmons]

Found the romance based on friendship paths to be some of the most naturally personally.

didymos1120 wrote...

mrsph wrote...

Besides. The asari are the most blatant fanservice in the games anyway.

Yep.  They were even deliberately modeled on previous "hot alien babe" fanservice.

Why I'm hoping that if we see more Asari, they're written more like Tela Vasir.

Modifié par gosimmons, 21 avril 2011 - 01:11 .

[Seboist]

gosimmons wrote...

Found the romance based on friendship paths to be some of the most naturally personally.

didymos1120 wrote...

mrsph wrote...

Besides. The asari are the most blatant fanservice in the games anyway.

Yep.  They were even deliberately modeled on previous "hot alien babe" fanservice.

Why I'm hoping that if we see more Asari, they're written more like Tela Vasir.

I want some Aria T'Loak bad girl lovin for my Sheploo in ME3.

[AdmiralCheez]

Seboist wrote...

gosimmons wrote...

Found the romance based on friendship paths to be some of the most naturally personally.

didymos1120 wrote...

mrsph wrote...

Besides. The asari are the most blatant fanservice in the games anyway.

Yep.  They were even deliberately modeled on previous "hot alien babe" fanservice.

Why I'm hoping that if we see more Asari, they're written more like Tela Vasir.

I want some Aria T'Loak bad girl lovin for my Sheploo in ME3.

I think you missed the point.

[Zubie]

michaelrsa wrote...

Tali and Garrus are only different that they are the most tastefully done out of both games.

subjective

[TomY90]

easygame88 wrote...

michaelrsa wrote...

Tali and Garrus are only different that they are the most tastefully done out of both games.

subjective

I agree with you on it being subjective its all to a matter of opinion granted the romance scenes were really tame compared to the others especially Jacob and Miranda but they do lack the emotions compared to others like Miranda and Jack (I have only done the maleshep love interests but seen the femshep options online)

but was definetly done as a fan service you can tell it was an after thought

Modifié par TomY90, 21 avril 2011 - 01:35 .

[aDuck]

Fanservice? Yes.
But coming from someone who played ME2 first, I think they did their romance as well as they did the others (in ME2). They overcame their hardship and learnt to rely and respect Shep. Garrus' romance could've been better (although I LOVE their romance scene), instead of just saying everything MaleShep would say and including a "Lets do it" option with no growth. Tali, you can actually see her fidget around you, and you get a bit more depth in the romance (the awkward dance).

[AdmiralCheez]

TomY90 wrote...

but was definetly done as a fan service you can tell it was an after thought

Subjective.  I felt they were incredibly well-done and had quite a bit of depth.

[Zulu_DFA]

Yes, it was fanservice, that totally ruined both the characters for me, and contributed to the ruination of ME2 in general.

Modifié par Zulu_DFA, 21 avril 2011 - 01:47 .

[AdmiralCheez]

SmokePants wrote...

The writers definitely embraced the idea of a Tali romance, whereas with Garrus, it's clear that they were mocking that fanbase.

"You want to do what to me, Sheperd?"

"Huh."

"No, no, I'm just trying to imagine how that would work."

"I'm not physically attracted to you in the slightest and you might as well be a male human, but what the Hell. Beats jacking off, I guess."

"I'll bring the booze."

This post may be a year old, but this is actually one of the reasons why the Garrusmance is my favorite: I could tell the writers were teasing me the whole way.

Those goofballs.

Modifié par AdmiralCheez, 21 avril 2011 - 02:03 .

[Zulu_DFA]

michaelrsa wrote...

Zulu_DFA wrote...

Yes, it was fanservice, that totally ruined both the characters for me, and contributed to the ruination of ME2 in general.

You've got to be a bit more stingy with your proclamations of ruination. If the information on ME3 is accurate you're going to run out of ruination less than an hour into it.

I've already run out of ruination, since Shepard's trial has been confirmed to take place on Earth. Friggin' fan service.

[lovgreno]

Sure Tali and Garrus was fanservice, just like basicaly everything else in ME2. It's easier and cheaper to keep old costumers than make new ones.

But I'm okay with this as long as it's done well and in my opinion it was. Considering the popularity of Garrus and Tali many agree. Some say fanservice has RUINED mass effect but I'm sure the profits will help BioWare and EA deal with the critics.

So there is a good chance we will see many of the LIs again in ME3. It's realy just up to what the writers decides will be a good story. Some say they must be excluded for "fairness", personal opinions, variables and so on. Some say this is all impossible because of things like variables and even if it was possible it will inevitably make ME3 bad. This is what Garrus has to say about that:

Modifié par lovgreno, 21 avril 2011 - 02:16 .

[LadyJaneGrey]

The only time I felt irritated that Garrus or Tali turned into potential LI was repeatedly hearing the "calibrations" line. Shepard should not have to bang her best friend to access so much of his dialogue.

But that's not really a strike against a particular romance's fanbase. They didn't ask for the friend interactions to feel so short.

[didymos1120]

Zulu_DFA wrote...


I've already run out of ruination, since Shepard's trial has been confirmed to take place on Earth. Friggin' fan service.

Then why do you even bother investing so much time into ME?

[Zulu_DFA]

didymos1120 wrote...

Zulu_DFA wrote...

I've already run out of ruination, since Shepard's trial has been confirmed to take place on Earth. Friggin' fan service.

Then why do you even bother investing so much time into ME?

ME1 was amazing.