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[vhatever]

calzone > colonic

[Chromie]

The Black Ghost wrote...

I dont know where you're coming from, unless you are comparing Mass Effect 2 to the Avatar video game. Seriously, one is a movie, one is a video game.

Try to condense Mass Effect 2 into a 2.5 hour movie and beleive me, Avatar will come out on top because despite everything--Avatar has a better main plot. I mean, seriously, can you really see a movie about bugs and a giant human robot as being that great a movie? (hint: I think we have plenty of movies like that already). True Mass Effect 2 has much better character development and side-story that most movies and games, but it also takes many many hours to show that to the player, where a movie has to do it in a limited amount of time.

Mass Effect 1 would work as a much better standalone movie because the plot is just more unique and better paced. Even that--I dont think it would be at the same level of beleivablily to the audience as Avatar.



This is a stupid comparison

Mass Effect 1 OR 2 condensed into a movie would alot better than Avatar. Avatar is just a scifi version of Pochantas!

[J HG T]

Avatars biggest weakness is (surprise, surprise) it's story. Dances with the wolfs and Pocahontas in space. Apart from that, I like it. It was nowhere near the quality and originality of District 9 but I still like it.



Mass Effect 2 and District 9 have been my Scifi of choice in recent months. Love them both.

[Endurance_117]

Avatar > Mass Effect

[Johndoex9112]

[Kajan451]

Oh i think Avatar does have a lot in common with smurfs too:



http://www.weregeek.com/2010/02/10/

[gotthammer]

Avatar was so-so. I mean, the Marines should have won.

(you can set up a facility like that on another world, but you can't 'glass' your opposition from orbit? gah...)

While ME2 wasn't perfect in the plot/story dept., it was better, IMHO, than Avatar's 'eco/native-friendly' story. I hope someone else does the sequel...and kills off the blue buggers.

[Luke Pearce]

addiction21 wrote...

Luke Pearce wrote...

I agree with you on everything.

District 9 is also better than Avatar...but comparing District 9 to Mass Effect is apples and oranges.

But its fine to compare Avatar and ME is not apples to oranges?

Hey like or dislike what you want but at least attempt to stick to your own standards.

Both Avatar and Mass Effect are set in the future and around fairly similar time periods (2100's), both have blue-skined human-like aliens and they are both set on a different planet from Earth. So theres similarities...

District 9 is set on Earth, in modern day times and with an alien race much different to any alien species in Mass Effect...almost no similarities whatsoever.

[Chuvvy]

Damn it,nvm

Modifié par Slidell505, 18 février 2010 - 11:24 .

[wowpwnslol]

It's really sad that movies don't even have to have a decent plot/story these days. Just impress the average mouthbreather with mediocre computer generated crap and it will be an instant hit.

[Toxik King]

Yeah, Avatar had no real story.
WTF was unobtanium (are they working with special pandas or something?) and why didn't the Jake guy tell them about the big explosions (until they were about to blow them up). Oh yeah, cuz as totally hooking up with that blue-spotted-tailed-magical haired-wierd nosed chick.

I still liked it cuz of the explosions and stuff

[Luke Pearce]

yeah...Avatar was overrated.



James Cameron was better in the 80's-mid 90's. Terminator 2, Aliens, True Lies all good (Terminator 2 was ****ing fantastic!). Then he did Titanic...the most predictable and overrated movie ever. Now, after 12 yrs Avatar which is mostly only popular cos it got hyped up so much because its been 12 yrs since the last 'James Cameron' movie.



Cameron is NOT the best director in the world...no matter what he claims.

[Costin_Razvan]

If they made a Mass Effect movie with the same technology as Avatar, then ME would beat the living **** out of Avatar.

[wowpwnslol]

Toxik King wrote...

Yeah, Avatar had no real story.
WTF was unobtanium (are they working with special pandas or something?) and why didn't the Jake guy tell them about the big explosions (until they were about to blow them up). Oh yeah, cuz as totally hooking up with that blue-spotted-tailed-magical haired-wierd nosed chick.

I still liked it cuz of the explosions and stuff

I can't answer those questions - I walked out of the theatre after Jake met the weird looking blue woman.

Seriously, people claim the graphics were amazing, but to me they looked really fake and exaggerated. Not to mention completely unrealistic. I've seen more realistic looking aliens in low budget movies wearing costumes and make-up. Simply terrible. I can't believe this movie was directed by a man who made epics like T1/T2 and Titanic.

[Luke Pearce]

oh Avatars graphics were pretty good but I dont think they were groundbreaking at all! Terminator 2's graphics were more impressive for the time than Avatar's.

I still think Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest has the best special effects...and The Incredibles is the most impressive full-CGI movie.

[Zimmy42]

T0paze wrote...

Well, this comparison is more valid than one would think. Avatar is a film. Mass Effect is little more than an interactive film.

However, Avatar is a technological breakthrough, while Mass Effect uses common (and possibly outdated) technology. As for the morals, I respect Cameron for taking a stance, and even more so for being able to convince the opponents of his ideas or at least make them think about his message (granted, this has more to do with the sheer power of his imagery than with the cogency of his reasoning, but still). Mass Effect, on the other hand, uses a trick unavailable to film directors - multiple choices. So, not much to say here - its choices are supposed to please everyone - from a knight in shining armor to a complete bastard.

The moral stance of his film is flawed completely. The entire film is based around showing off and using this new technology, yet it's completely anti-technology in it's themes. Not to mention the final theme was pretty short sighted and more an abandonment of the idea of chosing a better alternative.

As a technological breakthrough... Not so much, cutting edge yes but most of the technology has been used elsewhere. Avatar did a reasonable job of bringing it all together.

And I never thought it so much a rip off of Pochahontas, it's much closer to Fern Gully. Except the ending of Fern Gully was better.

[Chromie]

Luke Pearce wrote...

oh Avatars graphics were pretty good but I dont think they were groundbreaking at all! Terminator 2's graphics were more impressive for the time than Avatar's.
I still think Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest has the best special effects...and The Incredibles is the most impressive full-CGI movie.

Pixar is just amazing with CGI, Bioware let hem handle the Mass Effect movie!!

Star Wars Episode III or Star Trek probably have the best special effects so far...Avatar is pretty but unless if I can watch it non-3D and it look the same I say the former two options are better.

Hell Dragon Age in 3D is more fun to watch than Avatar.

[Mlow44]

The Black Ghost wrote...

I dont know where you're coming from, unless you are comparing Mass Effect 2 to the Avatar video game. Seriously, one is a movie, one is a video game.

Try to condense Mass Effect 2 into a 2.5 hour movie and beleive me, Avatar will come out on top because despite everything--Avatar has a better main plot. I mean, seriously, can you really see a movie about bugs and a giant human robot as being that great a movie? (hint: I think we have plenty of movies like that already). True Mass Effect 2 has much better character development and side-story that most movies and games, but it also takes many many hours to show that to the player, where a movie has to do it in a limited amount of time.

Mass Effect 1 would work as a much better standalone movie because the plot is just more unique and better paced. Even that--I dont think it would be at the same level of beleivablily to the audience as Avatar.



This is a stupid comparison

do you not realize that Avatar's plot is about 80% copying Pocahontus? wasn't impressed by the plot aspect of Avatar, either

[Babymax]

SidNitzerglobin wrote...

From a technological perspective I haven't seen anything in Avatar that Lucas didn't do in the prequels years ago (and look what great movies those were ).

Give just one example from any of the Star Wars movies where Lucas created the same level of believable emotion on a CGI character's face that was commonly depicted in Avatar.

Go ahead and keep looking. Too bad you won't find it.

Having said that, Mass Effect 2 is an excellent game. But as others have pointed out, the nearly 30-hours worth of story, graphics and gameplay aren't really a fair comparison with a movie that's only a small fraction of that length.

[Sphaerus]

Apparently I'm worse than a thousand robot Hitlers because I didn't like Avatar as anything more than a visual spectacle (and even then an overrated one).

To me, Airplane is more memorable than Avatar.

[OneBadAssMother]

Its kind of hard to compare Avatar storytelling (which is actually a scifi-pocahontas), to Bioware storytelling (ingenuitity and originality)

[Mlow44]

Babymax wrote...

SidNitzerglobin wrote...

From a technological perspective I haven't seen anything in Avatar that Lucas didn't do in the prequels years ago (and look what great movies those were ).

Give just one example from any of the Star Wars movies where Lucas created the same level of believable emotion on a CGI character's face that was commonly depicted in Avatar.

Go ahead and keep looking. Too bad you won't find it.

Having said that, Mass Effect 2 is an excellent game. But as others have pointed out, the nearly 30-hours worth of story, graphics and gameplay aren't really a fair comparison with a movie that's only a small fraction of that length.

man, o man i wish i had more time to debate THIS with you, but alas, i have an exam in less than 15 minutes and need to leave within the next 2

[Lopake]

Really OP? The NAvi or whatever all looked the same because its their planet.

[MerinTB]

Luke Pearce wrote...

I agree with you on everything.

District 9 is also better than Avatar...but comparing District 9 to Mass Effect is apples and oranges.

For 2009 Sci-Fi films, District 9 is WORLDS better than Avatar.  Ridiculously better.

Mass Effect's STORY is far better and more original than Avatar's hackneyed, overly repeated, simplistic "story."

Dialog and acting are FAR, FAR superior in D9 and ME than in Avatar - in fact, the only thing worse in Avatar than the dialog and acting is the cliched and BADLY TOLD story.

For special effects, however, I have to give it to Avatar over D9 and ME.  That's Avatar's one saving grace.


All that said -

Star Control 2 has a better story than ME.  As does Babylon 5.  ME isn't that original, either.

[MerinTB]

Zimmy42 wrote...

And I never thought it so much a rip off of Pochahontas, it's much closer to Fern Gully. Except the ending of Fern Gully was better.

There's a funny post on the internet about "Space Pochahontas", (EDIT: there it is, earlier in this thread!) but I agree -

not only was Avatar more Fern Gully, but Fern Gully was much better at it than Avatar.

Modifié par MerinTB, 18 février 2010 - 04:48 .