OK, what follows it what i was able to make sence of from playing the game, im not that smart of imaginative, so as far as i know, i didnt have to twist much of what was already there to make sense off all this. *quietly hopes that the rest of this post is coherant... at least a little)
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"In game 1, they firmly established that the Reapers were machines. The Reapers had nothing but contempt and disdain for flesh. Then Mass Effect 2 comes along and suddenly the Reapers actually have this supply of organics. In fact, their entire plan seems to involve mostly organics. They maintain this army of organics that live on a barren asteroid base for millions of years (the collectors are actually what’s left of the last race the Reapers conquered) with nothing to do but stare at the walls as the eons tick by. (I guess they ordered pizza when they got hungry?)"
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OK, to start, Artificial or synthetic =/= machine!
we only ever talk to ONE reaper in ME1, Sovereign, and yes he seems to be very contemptuous of fleshy things, however, that doesnt mean they cant see the value of lesser being as tools, the collectors are TOOLS!
if you talk to Mordin, its pretty well explained that the reapers have nothing but disdain for the collectors, their tech wasnt designed for ease of use, comfort or safety, again, Mordin explains it very well (gotta love that secksy fast-talking salarian geezer!)
to put it this way, lets say you hate ants, however, you discover that using ants, you can achieve your goal, say, world domination, would you not use the ants then? you still dont care for the ants, they mean nothing to you, they are a means to end, how is that not contemptuous?
and from playing ME2, Harbinger isnt really better, with lines like "you have the attention of those infinitely your greater" or "that which you know as Reapers are your salvation through destruction" ... so far the 2 reapers we have dealt with seem consistent.
the way i imagine it, we are to reapers what a puddle of jism is to us, in and of itself, beneath notice, "disgusting", however, there is potential there to make an equal, something infinitly greater than that stain on the floor
... collectors arent millions of years old.. 50000 give or take a
few millenia, they were not idol all this time either, and as far as
maintaining a army at all times... we dont know how long it takes for a
collector to be "built" we dont know how long they can live, maybe
for the better part of 50000 years they were smaller numbers, and were
just used for their original, intended purpose, which from that i was
able to gather in ME 2 + wiki was to experiment on the sentient
species in the galaxy
when sovereigh died, Harbinger could have just sent a "mass produce" order, they are mostly tech afterall
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"The collectors weren’t mentioned in the last game, which is kind of odd
since that means the Reapers left the Collectors and all their weaponry
sitting around doing nothing while Sovereign attacked Citadel Station
alone. And didn’t win."
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until the attack on the normandy SR1, pretty much the only contact with collectors to be had was when they wanted species with odd genetic traits
they are considered a myth by most of the galaxy, the "space boogey men"
even the huge ship they have, it is possible (unlikely but..) it was only built after Sovereign was destroyed.
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"At the end of the original game, the Prothean AI clearly explained how
the Reapers behave. And now they’re doing something completely
different and a lot less effective."
"their actions still don’t make a lot of sense. They’re trying to get
enough humans together to build a new Reaper, but they need “millions
more” to finish the job. They’ll never get that many humans without
fighting a huge war. The Alliance may be the most apathetic bunch in
the Galaxy, but sooner or later people would have fled the Terminus
Systems and the Collectors would have needed to operate in
Alliance-controlled space in order to meet their fleshbag quota.
Despite their slight tech edge it’s clear they couldn’t possibly hope
to prevail against the humans and their likely allies. Their plan is
doomed long before Shepard shows up and starts shooting guys."
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Vigil is just a VI, all he knows is based on what the protheans knew, and all the protheans knew is based on their own theories, these were their best GUESS, nothing more
and i agree (to an certain extent) that the collectors seem like an infficient tool as far as just harvesting is concerned, however, i got the impression that they were never intended for this purpose, they felt like a back-up plan, an "oh ****!" contigency
so when the vanguard failed, the reapers used whatever they had availible in the glaxay to bring forth their return
their purpose looked to have been to study the species un preparation of their master's arrival and once the reapers to their thing, to assist/facilitate the creation of new reapers.
... OK that enough for me lol, the post is too long as it is, i will eventually correct the typos, until then, my appologies to whoever's sensibilities i have offended by my attrocious use of the english written word, i hope we can still be friends
Modifié par broutefoin, 18 février 2010 - 07:28 .
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