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[Liso66]

blademaster7 wrote...

And here I thought you guys forgot all about this thread.

Finished my mage playthrough today.... everything went well I think. I'm now waiting to see what happens in Awakening.

Don't know if I should finish my warrior save now. I still have 2 treaties to complete before the Landsmeet. I haven't finished the game with a warrior yet... lol just rogues and mages

D-D-D-Deep Roads!! So get that warrior out! you know the Deep Roads are calling you!!!

[MClover]

MaxQuartiroli wrote...

@MClover.. Everyone likes the stories in different ways... You asked if I want my character in dragon age to eventually evolve into him/her sitting down at a table with his family..
I may answer to this question saying "Yes, Maybe I do..." I like to think that people sometimes may find something more important for them, and when this happens they decide it's time to lay down the arms and give way to someone who is more motivated.
You like the idea of an hero who live is life like an eternal mission...and in order to to this is able to renounce to friends, beloved, companions... maybe you are right but these are you tastes.. My ideals are quiet different...

In a regular hero situation, I too would like that. But for one thing, we are talking about a game here and Bioware is not going to go down that path...Fable is already being torn apart in the same fashion, seems like they should change that title to "Sims RPG". Also with the Warden's special condition, they are terminal. They will die in about thirty years. The Warden has responsibilites and it would be plain selfish to drop everything to start a famiy not to mention unfair to the family itself. In times of no blight, Wardens had fun with each other and helped put ends to any possible darkspawn war bands so there lives are not completely worn by duty. I am saying that any real Warden knows the sacrifice takes a toll throughout their entire lives. Like Wynne said, you can try to lead a normal life, but it would not work out.
If you want to roleplay your character that way I am fine with that, but I will say your character is selfish. I just don't think that a real Warden would keep those close ties with romances knowing his responsibilies must come first. Like I said before, Bioware must push the Warden in a certain direction to evolve the story, much like you had to join the Grey Wardens and much like you had to defeat the blight. There were no options to pick up your things and go. Now in Awakening Bioware is saying, your romances left and none of your companions will be new romances. They are saying quite literally, quit f***ing around, you have too much s*** to do.

[shedevil3001]

i hope i can still play with my warden i love the human noble female i created shes mint

[Liso66]

Curlain wrote...



@Liso66 that depends sadly on if DA2 continues with our Warden or is set significantly in the future and possibly has little bearing on DA (except possibly for Morrigan's god-child)

Yes, which is my point. We just do not know      Either way.. I'm ready! hehe

[TheLion36]

shedevil3001 wrote...
as long as they sort a patch for our dlc and my hair mod works i'll be playing awakening even if its dissapointing but if not i think i might get the sledgehammer and bash my computer in total protest

Wouldn't it be better to just burn the disc and uninstall the game? 
What if the next expansion is something like: "Dragon Age - Hogswatch with the Family"

(Hogswatch is Terry Pratchetts version of Xmas).

[shedevil3001]

lol my family died remember arl howe that pig killed them so it would have to be an orphan title lol

[blademaster7]

Liso66 wrote...

blademaster7 wrote...

And here I thought you guys forgot all about this thread.

Finished my mage playthrough today.... everything went well I think. I'm now waiting to see what happens in Awakening.

Don't know if I should finish my warrior save now. I still have 2 treaties to complete before the Landsmeet. I haven't finished the game with a warrior yet... lol just rogues and mages

D-D-D-Deep Roads!! So get that warrior out! you know the Deep Roads are calling you!!!

Yes, I had those nightmares again. I just realized that I actually did a warrior playthrough but I went for the Ultimate sacrifice so... no expansion for that

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I'm wondering what kind of endings are you guys importing.....

Modifié par blademaster7, 22 février 2010 - 06:19 .

[shedevil3001]

me the female human noble warrior

[Curlain]

[quote]MClover wrote...

[quote]MaxQuartiroli wrote...



In a regular hero situation, I too would like that. But for one thing, we are talking about a game here and Bioware is not going to go down that path...Fable is already being torn apart in the same fashion, seems like they should change that title to "Sims RPG". Also with the Warden's special condition, they are terminal. They will die in about thirty years. The Warden has responsibilites and it would be plain selfish to drop everything to start a famiy not to mention unfair to the family itself. In times of no blight, Wardens had fun with each other and helped put ends to any possible darkspawn war bands so there lives are not completely worn by duty. I am saying that any real Warden knows the sacrifice takes a toll throughout their entire lives. Like Wynne said, you can try to lead a normal life, but it would not work out.
If you want to roleplay your character that way I am fine with that, but I will say your character is selfish. I just don't think that a real Warden would keep those close ties with romances knowing his responsibilies must come first. Like I said before, Bioware must push the Warden in a certain direction to evolve the story, much like you had to join the Grey Wardens and much like you had to defeat the blight. There were no options to pick up your things and go. Now in Awakening Bioware is saying, your romances left and none of your companions will be new romances. They are saying quite literally, quit f***ing around, you have too much s*** to do.
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There isn't really a definition on a 'real' Warden, truth is Wardens reflected through Origins come from a wide range of backgrounds some more noble and some very questionable to downright dark, and their motivations can be very different, particularly concerning those forced into being Wardens.  Riordan states those in the Anderfels are basically that realms rulers and like that situation (possibly involving themselves in local politics more then actually monitoring and attacking darkspawn and linking themselves more with ordinary people which is definitely Riordan's view on them), Jory joined for noble reasons, Alistair because Duncan saved him from the Chantry and became a father figure.  Some think that honour and nobility in actions is an important part of being a Warden (Alistair for example) and others that anything is justified to meet a situation (Avernus).  Our own Warden can be very much forced into this position.  All Wardens feel the darkspawn and that does bind them to fight it, but the degree to which they do, how, and to what extent the rest of their lives are left as secondary to this differs from Warden to Warden (and from how we RP them).

So there is no 'real' Warden as such, and different Wardens would think differently about situations (also many LI in these stories are all perfectly capable combatants so the need to leave them behind in these situations is not always essential either)

Modifié par Curlain, 22 février 2010 - 06:25 .

[Liso66]

MClover wrote...

Like Wynne said, you can try to lead a normal life, but it would not
work out.
If you want to roleplay your character that way I am fine
with that, but I will say your character is selfish. I just don't think
that a real Warden would keep those close ties with romances knowing his
responsibilies must come first.

Okay. I would "almost" agree to this. however......

1) the pc's had no choice but to join. Even if they agreed willingly. The scenarios are set up, you ARE going to be a Grey Warden

2) Being a Grey Warden does not cancel out your human nature. Or "person" nature. since I need to cover other races.

3) Regardless of the duties of a Grey Warden. It is not natural to become a machine to a cause.

Now, having said that. I am not stressing over continuation to the origins or main pc's at this point. Looking at it as "Duty and responsibility" however. Really takes human nature out of the grand scheme of things. Which is not at all natural

[MaxQuartiroli]

Liso66 wrote...

Curlain wrote...



@Liso66 that depends sadly on if DA2 continues with our Warden or is set significantly in the future and possibly has little bearing on DA (except possibly for Morrigan's god-child)

Yes, which is my point. We just do not know      Either way.. I'm ready! hehe

Well I just repeat here what I said in another topic...

"I believe they allow you to make your choices because they wrote DAO as a finished chapter. Therefore you could make all the choices you wanted, what do they care...they will not carry on them.
Now we have Awakening which is an almost detached adventure, and in a future we will have a second chapter which will be some more detached, with a new lead-character, new companions and new history.. and our DAO history with our choices will almost disappear in the fade... This is my guess and what I feel... Maybe I'm wrong of course"

this is my bet....  

[TheLion36]

MClover wrote...
Also with the Warden's special condition, they are terminal. They will die in about thirty years. The Warden has responsibilites and it would be plain selfish to drop everything to start a famiy not to mention unfair to the family itself. In times of no blight, Wardens had fun with each other and helped put ends to any possible darkspawn war bands so there lives are not completely worn by duty.

There are a few special situations... I think in one of the books one of the Grey Wardens leaves and later returns cured from the taint and then there's Avernus.
Some of us also fathered an old-god child with unknown powers, so perhaps she (yes I'm expecting it to be a baby girl to keep up with the many daughters tale) can cure me.

Eventually (when my warden is getting a bit old) I would consider he would have deserved a retirement, mostly wardens don't even see a blight (granted the fact that there's only one every 400 years) and after that they just tarry around a bit slaying some minor darkspawn here and there in their sleep... We already defeated a blight almost on our own and god knows what we'll be doing to the Architect... By the time we're 15 years on adventuring like this we'll have burned through the energy of 10 wardens lives!

I'm also not sure settling down would be required, your love and you could adventure on while slaying darkspawn and still being happily ever after. Whether you die of old age of just go off to the deep roads eventually thats not much of a difference.

[TheLion36]

shedevil3001 wrote...
lol my family died remember arl howe that pig killed them so it would have to be an orphan title lol

Well I actually meant you, Alistair and little Oghren... ehm well whatever you call your possible child.

[Liso66]

I am importing my 4 fav endings so far. I may play more often. I'll have to see if

i like the story enough first



1) Alicandra, Female noble rogue, Alistair is hardened and they are to marry.



2) Dalish elf Rogue, female, Zevran romance, Alistair and Anora marry, Loghain lives then dies...



3) Male Mage, Romance Leliana, Did the ritual. Alistair King.



4) Male Dalish, NO romance, Did the ritual. killed Logain. Alistair and Anora marry

[shedevil3001]

lmao oh right erm my mind was on the game again typical woman i know

[TheLion36]

So far:

Armand - Male Human Warrior, Made Alistair (not hardened) Marry Anora, took the Ritual... Went to travel with his love Leliana.



Akkadian - Male City Elf Rogue, Made Anora Queen, took the Ritual... Went out to search for his beloved Morrigan and his offsping.

[shedevil3001]

i havent decided which 1's to import except my main human female noble alexia = warrior



alistair hardened = getting married to him

killed loghain

[Curlain]

Not sure where I stand on Awakenings itself right now, some of it looks interesting, but I'm still worried it's 'mission-focused' nature means it's largely dungeon crawler style expansion, and I've got a number of games that give me that. If it still looks like it might be mostly this kind of game (with little to no companion interaction and the ability to interact with other NPCs, and is just mainly combat) by the end of Feb then I think I'll cancel my pre-order and wait for reviews and maybe watch YouTube vids to see if it's value for money to me personally at it's current price

[Liso66]

Did anyone else have a play through with zero romance? Am I weird or something? I had to see how that played out!

[shedevil3001]

i'll still play it. I'll just make sure my cappuchino maker is beside me so i dont get to stressed if it is a huge let down

[TheLion36]

Curlain wrote...
Not sure where I stand on Awakenings itself right now, some of it looks interesting, but I'm still worried it's 'mission-focused' nature means it's largely dungeon crawler style expansion, and I've got a number of games that give me that.

I'm quite excited over Awakening. I doubt they would be stupid enough to make the expansion a hack n slash when they know the conversations etc set them apart from the competition. If watch the trailers for DAO then I also get the feeling the game is about dungeon crawling and slaying, but when you play it its quite different...

But yeah we won't know until we play it or read the reviews hehe! 

[shedevil3001]

nope liso i didnt do no romance yet i was trying but awwww alistair just made me give in. I'm a weak woman he turned me to jelly again lol

[Liso66]

shedevil3001 wrote...

nope liso i didnt do no romance yet i was trying but awwww alistair just made me give in. I'm a weak woman he turned me to jelly again lol

Play a male pc then!!  lol

[shedevil3001]

i got a male mage on the go but just cant get into it as much as playing a female

[blademaster7]

You know I tried playing with a female PC and ended up romancing Leliana... lol



Who plays without romance anyway?