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[Alzodin]

Hello I have a level 30 soldier who i love playing I got the claymore shotgun and Grunt has it however I do not have the option to use it does not even show up on my list however I have Grunt using it just fine. is there a bug or am I missing something? could there be another shotgun that looks like the Claymore but only for Grunt? None of my other Squad members can use the shotgun.

Thanks in advice!

[Revenant_Mortalus]

If you got the Krogan Shotgun upgrade from the prototypes in the research terminal then only grunt will be able to use it - it looks just like a claymore. If you pick shotgun as advanced weapon training during the collector ship mission then you'll get the claymore...

[Alzodin]

Ah ok, If i remember right i got the gun for killing the Big snake like monster on the Krogan homeworld, Which is stonger? or are they they same?

[RighteousRage]

Presumably the claymore you get does more damage for Shepard than Grunt's krogan shotgun does for him

The upgrade you get for Grunt is for Grunt only, not Shepard.

Modifié par RighteousRage, 18 février 2010 - 03:34 .

[marshalleck]

You don't get either Grunt's krogan shotgun or the claymore from Tuchanka.



Grunt's shotgun is available as an upgrade from talking to him as soon as you let him out of his tank, and the claymore shotgun for Shepard is on the Collector ship.



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[JJDrakken]

The Cerberus Shotgun from the new DLC is technically stronger then the Claymore, but fires 3 shots, before reload.





JJ

[RighteousRage]

JJDrakken wrote...

The Cerberus Shotgun from the new DLC is technically stronger then the Claymore, but fires 3 shots, before reload.


JJ

Confirmation!?!

[Grand_Commander13]

It actually only has about 72% the damage per shot. I've never used either shotgun, but looking at the numbers the rate of fire on the Eviscerator doesn't look much quicker than the reload on a Claymore...

[marshalleck]

JJDrakken wrote...

The Cerberus Shotgun from the new DLC is technically stronger then the Claymore, but fires 3 shots, before reload.


JJ

Not according to the data that Christina Norman has posted and that which has been datamined from the game files.

Modifié par marshalleck, 18 février 2010 - 03:42 .

[Alzodin]

Thanks for the info.

[Kronner]

JJDrakken wrote...

The Cerberus Shotgun from the new DLC is technically stronger then the Claymore, but fires 3 shots, before reload.


JJ

This is not true.
Claymore can be used by Soldiers, but I do not see why would anyone take it over the Revenant.

[RighteousRage]

I took the widow. Did I do a bad thing? I already beat the game on insanity with my soldier who had a widow so there.

[Alzodin]

Kronner wrote...

JJDrakken wrote...

The Cerberus Shotgun from the new DLC is technically stronger then the Claymore, but fires 3 shots, before reload.


JJ

This is not true.
Claymore can be used by Soldiers, but I do not see why would anyone take it over the Revenant.

Not taking it over the Revenant when playing on Insanty you will have those time where you run out of ammo so you have to switch weapons and if your in close combat shotgun is the best option. Just want the best back up possible.

[Kronner]

Alzodin wrote...

Kronner wrote...

JJDrakken wrote...

The Cerberus Shotgun from the new DLC is technically stronger then the Claymore, but fires 3 shots, before reload.


JJ

This is not true.
Claymore can be used by Soldiers, but I do not see why would anyone take it over the Revenant.

Not taking it over the Revenant when playing on Insanty you will have those time where you run out of ammo so you have to switch weapons and if your in close combat shotgun is the best option. Just want the best back up possible.

I am not really sure what you mean - you cannot have both so you gotta pick one.
Revenant has 80 rounds clip and over 500 (I think) rounds overall when full. You're not gonna run out of ammo unless you spray walls just for fun, Claymore is awesome but Evi (the DLC shotgun) + Revenant is far better than Claymore+any other AR imho.

[Revenant_Mortalus]

Kronner wrote...


Claymore can be used by Soldiers, but I do not see why would anyone take it over the Revenant.

I'm not such a fan of the Revenant machine gun.  Personally I find it to be hideously inaccurate and I tend to get things killed quicker with the Avenger.  I enjoyed the Claymore, stil haven't played with the Widow yet.  Hmm, next playthrough maybe...

[Alzodin]

Kronner wrote...

Alzodin wrote...

Kronner wrote...

JJDrakken wrote...

The Cerberus Shotgun from the new DLC is technically stronger then the Claymore, but fires 3 shots, before reload.


JJ

This is not true.
Claymore can be used by Soldiers, but I do not see why would anyone take it over the Revenant.

Not taking it over the Revenant when playing on Insanty you will have those time where you run out of ammo so you have to switch weapons and if your in close combat shotgun is the best option. Just want the best back up possible.

I am not really sure what you mean - you cannot have both so you gotta pick one.
Revenant has 80 rounds clip and over 500 (I think) rounds overall when full. You're not gonna run out of ammo unless you spray walls just for fun, Claymore is awesome but Evi (the DLC shotgun) + Revenant is far better than Claymore+any other AR imho.

What I was getting at: Is last night I was doing Miranda loyalty quest and got to the last part where I was fighting the commando who had 3 bars of shielding. and half way thought the fight I ran out of ammo and I switch to the Evi  and ran up to her and shot her in the leg dropped her down to her knees  but in case like that is what I was wondering what would be the best Shotgun to use Evi got the job done no problem but the claymore I heard was more powerful.

[Invalidcode]

Take the Machine gun instead. Use the DLC shotgun for soldier. Claymore is Vanguard's toy.



You use Evi & Claymore in a different way, there really isn't a answer 'which gun is more powerful'.

[Aradace]

Claymore is more powerful in terms of "spike" damage...Where as Evis is more "versitile" Still, only time I'd take the claymore is on a Vanguard. As someone else stated "It's a Vanguard's toy" lol. Any other class you're thinking of shotgun with, Evis is pretty reliable.

[JJDrakken]

Name                  Base DPS      DPS vs. Armor      DPS vs. Barriers      DPS vs. Shields

M-22 Eviscerator      168      210      210      210
M-300 Claymore      164      206      206      206

Reference: masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Weaponry_Comparison


JJ

[Alzodin]

JJDrakken wrote...

Name                  Base DPS      DPS vs. Armor      DPS vs. Barriers      DPS vs. Shields

M-22 Eviscerator      168      210      210      210
M-300 Claymore      164      206      206      206

Reference: masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Weaponry_Comparison


JJ

This helps a lot!

[JJDrakken]

proving my point, Evis is more powerful then Claymore, not by much, but it is, jus less shot per heatsink reload.



JJ

[sinosleep]

Do you know if they've updated their numbers? I know that spread sheet was wrong a few weeks ago when everyone was doing shotgun calculations at X4 pellets when it's actually X8 pellets. It doesn't make a difference in the shotgun to shotgun comparison, but it makes a HUGE difference when comparing shotguns to other weapons.

[Alzodin]

sinosleep wrote...

Do you know if they've updated their numbers? I know that spread sheet was wrong a few weeks ago when everyone was doing shotgun calculations at X4 pellets when it's actually X8 pellets. It doesn't make a difference in the shotgun to shotgun comparison, but it makes a HUGE difference when comparing shotguns to other weapons.

Yes there was a update made today.

[Mordigan]

Alzodin wrote...

JJDrakken wrote...

Name                  Base DPS      DPS vs. Armor      DPS vs. Barriers      DPS vs. Shields

M-22 Eviscerator      168      210      210      210
M-300 Claymore      164      206      206      206

Reference: masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Weaponry_Comparison


JJ

This helps a lot!

That chart is complete BS.

The Claymore has a higher DPS than the Evi, and it's doubly so when you use the reload trick.   I would suggest using these weapons yourself so you can form your own opinion, rather than base them off some erroneous Wiki chart.

With that said, if you're playing a soldier, the Claymore probably isn't worth it.  The Claymore is only worth it if you're playing a Vanguard really, since the Vanguard is designed around close quarters combat and you need to be close for the shotguns to be effective..

[Alzodin]

Mordigan wrote...

Alzodin wrote...

JJDrakken wrote...

Name                  Base DPS      DPS vs. Armor      DPS vs. Barriers      DPS vs. Shields

M-22 Eviscerator      168      210      210      210
M-300 Claymore      164      206      206      206

Reference: masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Weaponry_Comparison


JJ

This helps a lot!

That chart is complete BS.

The Claymore has a higher DPS than the Evi, and it's doubly so when you use the reload trick.   I would suggest using these weapons yourself so you can form your own opinion, rather than base them off some erroneous Wiki chart.

With that said, if you're playing a soldier, the Claymore probably isn't worth it.  The Claymore is only worth it if you're playing a Vanguard really, since the Vanguard is designed around close quarters combat and you need to be close for the shotguns to be effective..

I havent been able to use the claymore for my self yet but the Evi works pretty well at Mid range and if you can get a clear shot even and mid long range.