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[Stebenator]

 humans enslaved elfs so they no need to be farm boy/girl elfs does that so human commoner is kinda unfit for this world 

[Stebenator]

+ humans was treaded like "Highter race" than elfs so there is no poor humans they took what elfs own ( I haven´t read/heard any lore about DA) but I think it goes like this

[caspertjuhh]

6 minimum totally different playthroughs of about 30-40 hours each... lets not complain there are too few options.

[Inhuman one]

well there could have been something else than human commoner or farmer.



Its not like humans can only be nobles, mages, commoners or farmers.



There could also be barbarians, assasins, lone warriors, pirates, brigands, thieves, shop keepers, templars, beggars, drunks, barbers, blacksmiths, village idiots, etc.

[kansadoom]

Inhuman one wrote...

well there could have been something else than human commoner or farmer.

Its not like humans can only be nobles, mages, commoners or farmers.

There could also be barbarians, assasins, lone warriors, pirates, brigands, thieves, shop keepers, templars, beggars, drunks, barbers, blacksmiths, village idiots, etc.

I would really like a village idiot origin

[Mordaedil]

QuanziZ wrote...

I was pretty disappointed by this myself. The character I like to RP as in video games is definitely not the royal blood type We'll see how it goes I guess... if I'm supposed to be some kind of spoiled bratty character I'll probably just start over with a new character.

Technically, you are a noble character in a place where dirt-farmers still hump pigs, kind of setting. This makes you more like an "average person" today, and a priviliged person for the age. How much you chose to play "noble-****" becomes your own part, I'd think.

[Alikes]

I thought it would be nice to have another human one. From what I can tell in the description you're not royalty just a "Noble". I understand them avoiding the poor human commoner unless they went with like barbarian or pirate it would just feel reused.

[JACOBDRAGON]

it almost made me not wanna buy it it was my origin probley EA who made them cut it they better do better next time or i wont buy from bioware anymore

[brgillespie]

Are we going to next hear complaints about dwarves aren't the jolly, long-bearded, drunken roughnecks with Scottish accents as they've been portrayed in a bazillion other games?



Try something new.

[JACOBDRAGON]

well Stanley Woo a good game studio would yes usly they tease with things they have but heyyou did have EA and bio wares gone down hill abit

[Coolka23]

hmm what about a Human Mage Apostate? like what morrigan was can you be that?

[Coolka23]

illegal mage lol ones the magi didnt like

[0LunarEclipse0]

Stanley Woo wrote...

JACOBDRAGON wrote...

i think its stupid in the video you see a human commoner w/e lets see i the games worth my money

Because you see a character type in a trailer, we have to have it as an origin story?

Now in absolute fairness Stanley when the game was announced and I started following it way back on the old site. and the older forums. Human commaner was listed as one of the origins. Now it has never been maid clear why that is the case but I don't really care. It's not so much that it was in the trailer but that it was announced in the begining as part of the game.

Anyway that is just my two cents.



Thanks.

[Ulous]

Stebenator wrote...

 humans enslaved elfs so they no need to be farm boy/girl elfs does that so human commoner is kinda unfit for this world 

..........Wut?

[shertokch]

i'm not just fine with the existing origins, theyre pretty much fantastic, all of them. most other rpgs have only one origin.

still, i would have liked to see a human commoner origin and a second one for mages

[Dargor Icarus]

Any1 thought of a Quanri origin? Screw the Blight! World Domination!

[Emerald Melios]

Stanley Woo wrote...

CmdrCash wrote...

I was just wondering why there is no origin story for human commoners? I mean the humans can not all be nobles in the DA: O world, so why is the human race the only one with just one origin?

Any info would be appreciated.

There isn't one because we didn't put one in the game. And humans have two origins, not one. As for why, the answer is "because." Pretty simple, really.

I doubt it could've topped City Elf or Dwarf Commoner.

[yummysoap]

I doubt the real reason is that they wanted to avoid "Child of Destiny", despite what they might say on these boards. After all, the CE and DC were both living much worse off than a HC would.



The real reason is that it probably just wasn't any good. With the dwarf and elf you at least have the novely of playing as another race and getting reactions accordingly. As a human commoner you'd pretty much just be an unremarkable dude that nobody can really react to. It's not surprising to me that it got cut, but it still feels as though humans are quite shorted (their mage origin is just the elf mage with a few different lines).



A human barbarian origin would have roxord my boxorz

[Emerald Melios]

yummysoap wrote...

I doubt the real reason is that they wanted to avoid "Child of Destiny", despite what they might say on these boards. After all, the CE and DC were both living much worse off than a HC would.

The real reason is that it probably just wasn't any good. With the dwarf and elf you at least have the novely of playing as another race and getting reactions accordingly. As a human commoner you'd pretty much just be an unremarkable dude that nobody can really react to. It's not surprising to me that it got cut, but it still feels as though humans are quite shorted (their mage origin is just the elf mage with a few different lines).

A human barbarian origin would have roxord my boxorz

More importantly, as a Dwarf Commoner you get to play a street thug.

[Graspiloot]

Pirate Origin YARRRRRRRRR



But to be honest, You have a human and dwarf commoner origins, with human commoners always being the stereotype heroes in RPG and fantasy. I don't really mind. I like elves better anyway. Dwarf beards are too short in this game for me to love it though....



I would have loved a Qunari origin or dalish mage.. but what the hell, 6 choices seems plenty

[ZeRux]

I think that the Dalish mage origin is the only which could even remotely be released as DLC one day, as it would require far less amount of work than Human commoner or Chasind origin. They could slightly modify the existing Dalish origin, using the same locations and story.

As far as other people's reactions for the rest of the game would be, Dalish would still treat you the same, but templars and the Chantry might be a bit more hostile towards you. So not a tremendous amount of work to do.

[Lintanis]

olwyn13 wrote...

Stanley Woo wrote...

CmdrCash wrote...

I was just wondering why there is no origin story for human commoners? I mean the humans can not all be nobles in the DA: O world, so why is the human race the only one with just one origin?

Any info would be appreciated.

There isn't one because we didn't put one in the game. And humans have two origins, not one. As for why, the answer is "because." Pretty simple, really.

You reminded me of my mother in that post (back in my teenage days).  "Because I said so!"   LOL  

 Stanley "Wynne" Woo 

[Stanley Woo]

Wow, resurrecting a 5 month old thread? Crazy.



but I will answer a 5 month old question:

0LunarEclipse0

Now in absolute fairness Stanley when the game was announced and I started following it way back on the old site. and the older forums. Human commaner was listed as one of the origins. Now it has never been maid clear why that is the case but I don't really care. It's not so much that it was in the trailer but that it was announced in the begining as part of the game.

Many things can happen between trailer and final product. You'll even see movie trailers featuring scenes that don't make the final cut of the film, and aren't included in the special features on the DVD. For one reason or another--pacing, can't make it awesome enough, redundancy, time, too many issues, actor won't come out of his trailer for re-takes, tech designer got carpal tunnel, executive decision, mime invasion, puppies, Oilers didn't make the playoffs... again!--a thing gets changed or cut during development. it happens way more often than you know. Devs generally don't talk about what might have been because that's not what they're selling. They're selling the finished product, and if that finished product doesn't have a Human Commoner origin, or Ash sleeping for thousands of years, or Neville apologizing to the alpha male infected and returning the uncured alpha female, that's unfortunate but that's just not what's in the final product, for good or no.

[Anwarddyn]

This didn't bother me at all really. In the real world commoners would never "rise to become a shiny armored paladin". They could not afford the arms and armor. If you saw a man in armor he was ALWAYS a noble. I just assumed that BioWare was reflecting some of the same thing. Made so much real world sense I never questioned it... *shrug*