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[aaniadyen]

Anwarddyn wrote...

This didn't bother me at all really. In the real world commoners would never "rise to become a shiny armored paladin". They could not afford the arms and armor. If you saw a man in armor he was ALWAYS a noble. I just assumed that BioWare was reflecting some of the same thing. Made so much real world sense I never questioned it... *shrug*

From what I heard, they canned the idea because it didn't fit in with what they wanted the game to turn out to be. If this has any truth to it, you are probably correct.

[Arttis]

Anwarddyn wrote...

This didn't bother me at all really. In the real world commoners would never "rise to become a shiny armored paladin". They could not afford the arms and armor. If you saw a man in armor he was ALWAYS a noble. I just assumed that BioWare was reflecting some of the same thing. Made so much real world sense I never questioned it... *shrug*

eh what about loghain....commoners becoming heroes is in dragon age already^_^
i think the human guard was popular
hes a guard so he could have been of common birth or noble birth*bastard*
Being a guard means access to weapons,training, and a little knowledge.
Could set that origin up in DA O easily doing it in denerim.
Guard meets duncan/stops infamous criminal gang/duncan recruits

Modifié par Arttis, 31 mai 2010 - 10:57 .

[Vicious]

It would be a better origin in a place like Orlais where the line between Commoner and Noble is HUGE, and Chevaliers get free reign to do whatever the hell they feel like to the common folk.



As opposed to Ferelden, which is a pretty standard fantasy kingdom.

[I_Love_Leliana]

Even better Origin than a human commoner would be a well-respected employee of The Pearl taking up arms and rising up against the Blight. The employee must be a female of course. She would most likely be a Rogue, assuming that Isabella was her regular customer. That would certainly be an Origin I would love to play through.

[pvpgirl]

Stanley Woo wrote...
 For one reason or another--pacing, can't make it awesome enough, redundancy, time, too many issues, actor won't come out of his trailer for re-takes, tech designer got carpal tunnel, executive decision, mime invasion, puppies, Oilers didn't make the playoffs... again!--a thing gets changed or cut during development.

Great. More 'butterfly flapping it's wings' wisdom.  No wonder we don't have a patch yet. 

[Arttis]

Having no real patch for x box is getting super annoying

WEDDING CLOTHES YOU GET IN CITY ELF ORIGIN WHEN YOU PUT THEM ON STEN THEY ARE NOT FINISHED/ HIS ENTIRE BODY IS A VERY LIGHT ORANGE COLOR!!!

finish it! i demand you to finish it!

i bought an unfinished game*cry*

[pvpgirl]

Arttis wrote...

finish it! i demand you to finish it!
i bought an unfinished game*cry*

Can't.  Mime puppies invaded.

[Elhanan]

Based on some of the choices and characters that are associated with Nobles seen in the game, I would say that very common humans HAVE been included!

[Emsee]

I think they should have at least gave a different option for a human,

like A swashbuckler or maybe a chaisand orgin

[aaniadyen]

Emsee wrote...

I think they should have at least gave a different option for a human,
like A swashbuckler or maybe a chaisand orgin

In early development they were thinking about an avvar barbarian and a redcliffe commoner.

[FF7Geek]

I think they should include more races like Half Elf etc or even an Vampire race, that be quite cool, or half human half vampire like blade or underworld

[aaniadyen]

FF7Geek wrote...

I think they should include more races like Half Elf etc or even an Vampire race, that be quite cool, or half human half vampire like blade or underworld

No such thing as Vampires of Half Elves in the Dragon Age universe. When a Human and an Elf have a child, it's always human.

[FF7Geek]

Yeh but you know what game designers are like, they will add anything to add a twist to the story of the world.. just becuase they say there is no vampires as of yet doesnt mean they arnt out there.. A designer could easily put them in and say they were a race a sleep before being woken up by the blight or some other evil..

[Emsee]

I think they did good with race selction, they kept it simple.

the only race I would suggest in a sequal is maybe a qunari but then

again Im a Sten fanboy so that may be why.

[jsh78mang]

In the next game. I would like to see H C and maybe a few others .

[Emerald Melios]

I_Love_Leliana wrote...

Even better Origin than a human commoner would be a well-respected employee of The Pearl taking up arms and rising up against the Blight. The employee must be a female of course. She would most likely be a Rogue, assuming that Isabella was her regular customer. That would certainly be an Origin I would love to play through.

Well, maybe DA2 will feature a Prostitute Origin.

[Emsee]

Dwarf commener did things well I think.

Human commener would have killed it abit

but I think another human orgin would have made humans

a bit more interesting

[Astranagant]

Emerald Melios wrote...

Stanley Woo wrote...

CmdrCash wrote...

I was just wondering why there is no origin story for human commoners? I mean the humans can not all be nobles in the DA: O world, so why is the human race the only one with just one origin?

Any info would be appreciated.

There isn't one because we didn't put one in the game. And humans have two origins, not one. As for why, the answer is "because." Pretty simple, really.

I doubt it could've topped City Elf or Dwarf Commoner.

Looks like we've got another Altered Beast fan!

"RISE FROM YOUR GRAVE!"

Also a commoner wouldn't likely have the health or training neccessary to be an accomplished fighter.

[Mlai00]

WISE FWOM YOR GWAVE!!



What I want from a HC origin is a bare-bones origin with only the minimal characterization, unlike the other 6 origins. I don't want the HC to be locked down with a specific age or specific family members who he/she must look like or risk looking adopted. I want to be able to make an old PC, a black PC, an ugly PC, whatever I want.

Basically, yes, I want a Bethesda origin.

Before you say "But the whole point of DAO is to give you defined origins!" Consider that this HC origin would be a "bonus origin" for you to sandbox with, after you've played the game with the other detailed origins. Also consider how much easier/cheaper this is to provide, via DLC.

[Ryderlone]

Mlai00 wrote...


What I want from a HC origin is a bare-bones origin with only the minimal characterization, unlike the other 6 origins. I don't want the HC to be locked down with a specific age or specific family members who he/she must look like or risk looking adopted. I want to be able to make an old PC, a black PC, an ugly PC, whatever I want.

It would actually be nice to see this applied to all races. During character creation you would choose race, class and then add a seventh box for origin, add in the Grey Warden box from Awakenings. The origin description may need a little rewording. You would start at the very beginning of Ostagar essentially sacrificing the 1-2 levels you gain in an origin but giving you free range to be whatever age, ethnic group, you would want without coming up with a zany reason in your head why your Cousland looks like he's 50.

The only problem I would see with this is if you picked say a City Elf this way, the game would have to recognize your character as a human when you get to the Alienage, you wouldn't want Soris going on about stuff your PC never did. Then I could finally get my Dalish mage. 

[maxernst]

Anwarddyn wrote...

This didn't bother me at all really. In the real world commoners would never "rise to become a shiny armored paladin". They could not afford the arms and armor. If you saw a man in armor he was ALWAYS a noble. I just assumed that BioWare was reflecting some of the same thing. Made so much real world sense I never questioned it... *shrug*

I would assume that the Human Commoner origin would be for rogues, not warriors.  For me, the fact that my nobleman was skilled in picking lgics and dirty fighting seemed not to make a lot of intuitive sense, so I had to come up with some things in my background to explain it. 

And by the way, a commoner didn't necessarily mean peasant.  Merchants, moneylenders and guildmaster tradesmen were commoners and could be very rich.

Modifié par maxernst, 04 juin 2010 - 02:34 .

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

maxernst wrote...

Anwarddyn wrote...

This didn't bother me at all really. In the real world commoners would never "rise to become a shiny armored paladin". They could not afford the arms and armor. If you saw a man in armor he was ALWAYS a noble. I just assumed that BioWare was reflecting some of the same thing. Made so much real world sense I never questioned it... *shrug*

I would assume that the Human Commoner origin would be for rogues, not warriors.  For me, the fact that my nobleman was skilled in picking lgics and dirty fighting seemed not to make a lot of intuitive sense, so I had to come up with some things in my background to explain it. 

And by the way, a commoner didn't necessarily mean peasant.  Merchants, moneylenders and guildmaster tradesmen were commoners and could be very rich.

Actually I see nobles as being better suited as rouges than warriors, look at howe, he is a backstabbing, manipulative, liar. Sounds pretty rougish to me.

[Gecon]

CmdrCash wrote...

Servant of Nature wrote...

I wouldn't have minded either, but I understand why they're trying to avoid the 'farmboy/girl saves the world!' thing.

Well it seems to work with "farm dwarfs". <_<

Nope it didnt.

While there is a "darf commoner" origin, its actually "darf criminal". You're not from one of the lower castes, you're castless and without rights.

[Kail Ashton]

I'd definetly prefer that supposed chaisend human origin, odd that humand are so numerious yet they only get one origin to themselves (and no, mages are multi race and don't count)

[Gecon]

Anwarddyn wrote...

This didn't bother me at all really.
In the real world commoners would never "rise to become a shiny armored
paladin". [...]

Never say never.

They could not afford the arms and armor. If you saw a man in armor he
was ALWAYS a noble. I just assumed that BioWare was reflecting some of
the same thing. Made so much real world sense I never questioned it...
*shrug*

Well, in the real world (in the past, anyway): you dont need to be a noble to receive arms training. You only have to be Warrior. If only nobles would be knights, there wouldnt be enough of them.

And: its fantasy. Its NOT the real world. Fantasy has magic. More importantly, fantasy warriors and rogues are definitely magic without knowing how to use it, as well. Or have you seen, for example, a realworld person who is able to hide in shadows in the middle of battle ? Dragons are also not possible - they would collapse under their own weight, and they wouldnt be able to fly.