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[Potato Power]

I love sniper rifles, but I love biotics too. Can Tech powers make up for the loss of biotic strength, or are infiltrators no good?

[Arhka]

Yes, but its something that you'll have to judge for yourself. Also, you can get a sniper rifle as a biotic later in the game...

[Darnalak]

heh Infiltrators are awesome. some might even say too easy The lack of Biotics doesn't slow you down at all. Disruptor Ammo chews through shields (especially when you rub it against your SMG), your sniper rifle and Incinerate eat armor like nobody's business, and you can do all this from 100+ meters away... and... if someone gets in your face... pop cloak and run. ... or do what I do and punch them for thinking i was weak up close.

[Potato Power]

Arhka wrote...

Yes, but its something that you'll have to judge for yourself. Also, you can get a sniper rifle as a biotic later in the game...

I am aware of that, I used sniper training as a Vanguard. But the Widow is what I REALLY want, and no biotic class can get that.

[Goat_Shepard]

Best 7th skill for Infiltrator? I got Neural Shock, so that I can shoot them in the head with my sniper while they're frozen. You also have Incinerate that also distracts organics enough for you to shoot them, so is Neural Shock not the best choice? I was considering Fortification or maybe Slam..I need something for crowd control and I don't want to be forced to have Jack in my part just for Shockwave. Any ideas? Also I find having AI Hacking + Tali's AI Hacking and combat drone is the best distraction for my Infiltrator.

[jaff00]

If you're doing anything other than widow/ap-ammo and spamming cloak as an infi then you're just making things difficult for yourself, ergo, masochists excluded, go for the above-mentioned. Well, unless you're looking for fun-factor. Insta-kills can get a little stale over time.

[infinite bias]

Best moment as infiltrator:

Charging krogan shouting "Coward!" as you pop cloak and slither away to snipe his ass.

[Awesome Helmet]

the widow is what defines the infiltrator. use the **** out of it.



as for a bonus talent, i take crippling slam. its a great single target disable and has a quick recharge. this build plays like how id want to play an assassin. cloak, widow, slam, incinerate. dead krogan.

[Agamemnon2589]

So I'm playing an infiltrator on hardcore right now. I've used the Widow, and while it's epic...I'm thinking that on this run I'm going to go for the assault rifle training instead, just for grins. Thoughts?

[Dhraconus]

Pros: Cloak + Sniper Rifle
Cons: ....Yeah....I got nothin'
Tips: Cloak + Sniper Rifle
Tricks: Cloak + Sniper Rifle

Seriously though, Cloak + Sniper Rifle... Oh and incinerate is a nice back up for certain situations (e.g. husk rush and krogan)

Edit: To the above comment about assualt rifles: I know everyone and their dog says "ZOMG WIDOW!!!!" but truthfully for my preference the Viper is so much better on harder difficulties.  When it often takes two shots to kill something anyway the Viper kills faster.  Mostly I just hate reloading though.  The assault rifle is nice because it replaces the SMG mostly but it has much better range, especially the Geth Pulse Rifle.  If you take another assault rifle as a infiltrator you're crazy, Geth Pulse is best for range, accuracy, shields, and barriers (I don't have collector so can't say).

Modifié par Dhraconus, 19 février 2010 - 03:30 .

[Agamemnon2589]

Dhraconus wrote...

Pros: Cloak + Sniper Rifle
Cons: ....Yeah....I got nothin'
Tips: Cloak + Sniper Rifle
Tricks: Cloak + Sniper Rifle

Seriously though, Cloak + Sniper Rifle... Oh and incinerate is a nice back up for certain situations (e.g. husk rush and krogan)

Edit: To the above comment about assualt rifles: I know everyone and their dog says "ZOMG WIDOW!!!!" but truthfully for my preference the Viper is so much better on harder difficulties.  When it often takes two shots to kill something anyway the Viper kills faster.  Mostly I just hate reloading though.  The assault rifle is nice because it replaces the SMG mostly but it has much better range, especially the Geth Pulse Rifle.  If you take another assault rifle as a infiltrator you're crazy, Geth Pulse is best for range, accuracy, shields, and barriers (I don't have collector so can't say).

Thanks. Much appreciated advice.

[Atmosfear3]

I simply don't understand why anyone would ever get the assault rifle when you already have SMGs. It is so redundant to have two weapons that are rapid fire. The only benefit ARs have over SMGs is that they have an armor modifier making them more effective, except heres the thing: virtually all classes that can use SMGs also have abilities that counter armor, but may have shortcomings against barriers/shields, where SMGs shine.

Also, widow >>> all other snipers. One shot from the widow is easily equal to 4 shots from the viper. Just like any FPS game, a sniper that does not kill in 1 shot is junk.

[Sarah Aran]

The Vindicator rifle is so much better than an SMG, in terms of accuracy and damage. The SMG becomes a last resort, the viper still benefits from the scope slowdown, which to me at least is what defines the infiltrator and is simply more useful to me than the widow can be. Yes if you're looking to be the center of the world and the star of the show the one shot widow builds are the way to go. But to me they're slow, inefficient and wasting the combined power of me and my squad. I'd much rather have a vindicator and squad cryo/warp ammo. To be honest someone really needs to go and make a few infiltrator videos and shake the comunity up to all of the other, perhaps even better ways to play the class.

[SupidSeep]

Agree with Sarah Aran. SMG's accuracy goes to pieces after the initial burst - all the damage doesn't do squat if the shots don't hit. At medium range and beyond AR is definitely superior in sustained fire accuracy.

[thisisme8]

Sarah Aran wrote...

To be honest someone really needs to go and make a few infiltrator videos and shake the comunity up to all of the other, perhaps even better ways to play the class.

WHAAAAAT?!

[kznlol]

Sarah Aran wrote...
To be honest someone really needs to go and make a few infiltrator videos and shake the comunity up to all of the other, perhaps even better ways to play the class.

That would be fine except that there exists only one objective measure of "better" ways in an SP game like ME2, and that is speedrunning. Infiltrators are, quite simply, bad at speedruns - and the fastest way to speedrun with them involves not using rifles at all.

Frankly, the class is confused. If you play it like the class played in ME1, cloak is a worthless skill - I honestly never used it once, over a full hardcore run. I could do the same on Insanity, if need be, it would just be tedious. If you play it like cloak is an integral part of the class, its no longer a sniper-centric class - you're better off using assault rifles the majority of the time.

[Frotality]

i think i would rahter they tone down the ungodly power of sniper rifles so i could NOT STARE AT THIS PIECE OF SH** FRUSTRATING AS HELL RIDICULOUS MAX AMMO LIMIT!!!!




GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




....well its good to get that off my chest....

[Graunt]

SupidSeep wrote...

Agree with Sarah Aran. SMG's accuracy goes to pieces after the initial burst - all the damage doesn't do squat if the shots don't hit. At medium range and beyond AR is definitely superior in sustained fire accuracy.

It's accurate enough at point blank range.  For medium to long you would just use your Sniper or even Incinerate.

[Arde5643]

Atmosfear3 wrote...

I simply don't understand why anyone would ever get the assault rifle when you already have SMGs. It is so redundant to have two weapons that are rapid fire. The only benefit ARs have over SMGs is that they have an armor modifier making them more effective, except heres the thing: virtually all classes that can use SMGs also have abilities that counter armor, but may have shortcomings against barriers/shields, where SMGs shine.
Also, widow >>> all other snipers. One shot from the widow is easily equal to 4 shots from the viper. Just like any FPS game, a sniper that does not kill in 1 shot is junk.

Actually, once you've got all the sniper upgrades as well as all the correct level up points, one headshot from the widow cloaked is almost 3 times grenade launcher damage.

So....yeah....

[Agamemnon2589]

I don't know. I tried the Widow, and yeah, it was nifty killing almost everything in one shot...but it got boring fast. Really fast. And I don't think the infiltrator class is confused so much as versatile. No other class is able to shine in both a close quarters AND long range role quite like an infiltrator.

[Arde5643]

I dunno - I always like the constant ammo management with the widow as an infiltrator.



Most of the times you use the SMG and powers to kill most of the small enemies instead of the widow.



Kinda like the old survival horror or RPG games where you always keep the best stuff for the tough enemies and the widow/cloak combo never fails to shine in that aspect.

[notphrog]

Infiltrator is a fancy term for "Sniper." Play one. I recomend it.



I still get warm fuzzy feelings when I drop Harbinger or Blue Suns Heavies before they can see me.

[notphrog]

Arde5643 wrote...

I dunno - I always like the constant ammo management with the widow as an infiltrator.

Most of the times you use the SMG and powers to kill most of the small enemies instead of the widow.

Kinda like the old survival horror or RPG games where you always keep the best stuff for the tough enemies and the widow/cloak combo never fails to shine in that aspect.

I always snipe everything. If I run out of Widow ammo, I cloak and move in for a close range smg kill. And Incinerate.

[The Shifty One]

Shotgun training and assassination cloak with warp/disruptor ammo

[Sarah Aran]

thisisme8 wrote...

Sarah Aran wrote...

To be honest someone really needs to go and make a few infiltrator videos and shake the comunity up to all of the other, perhaps even better ways to play the class.

WHAAAAAT?!

Oh I've seen your CQC videos and I find them awesome, but we really need more people thinking outside the box like that.