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Guardian295 wrote...
after reading that I realized something out of all the sqaud mates she is probable the only one who could be consider to be Shepards equal or is that just me
I'm not just talking combat abilitykraidy1117 wrote...
Guardian295 wrote...
Morning jtavjtav wrote...
Morning.
About Miranda having more female fans than Tali, I wouldn't know because I don't visit that thread. But Miranda grabbed my attention from the moment she shot Wilson. She's no nonsense, unapologetic ally does what needs to be done and more than capable of taking care of herself. She's passionately committed to a cause, and her eventual rejection of that cause is based purely on principal. Tali and Liara come off as auxiliaries to Shepard. He's the most important thing in their world. Liara pretty much snaps because she "couldn't let you go" and Tali has a massive case of hero worship. Not so Miranda. She has prior goals, ties, and principals. She won't throw them over for Shepard. When he dies again, she'll grieve, but she wouldn't make some devil's bargain in hope of bringing him back. In fact, she's one of the few characters I would trust to take Shep out if he were indoctrinated. And she's abile to have a boyfriend without becoming weaker or less competent.
How could I not love that?
after reading that I realized something
out of all the sqaud mates she is probable the only one who could be consider to be Shepards equal
or is that just me
Garrus, Mordin, Samara and Grunt anyone?
kraidy1117 wrote...
planguy wrote...
Tali is willing to put aside differences with Legion, at least if you have high persuade. Her emotions can't be that closed off.
But then you could convince a Hanar that the enkindlers are jerks with a high enough persuade skill.
You just contradicted your point with that Hannar bit......
Guardian295 wrote...
I'm not just talking combat abilitykraidy1117 wrote...
Guardian295 wrote...
Morning jtavjtav wrote...
Morning.
About Miranda having more female fans than Tali, I wouldn't know because I don't visit that thread. But Miranda grabbed my attention from the moment she shot Wilson. She's no nonsense, unapologetic ally does what needs to be done and more than capable of taking care of herself. She's passionately committed to a cause, and her eventual rejection of that cause is based purely on principal. Tali and Liara come off as auxiliaries to Shepard. He's the most important thing in their world. Liara pretty much snaps because she "couldn't let you go" and Tali has a massive case of hero worship. Not so Miranda. She has prior goals, ties, and principals. She won't throw them over for Shepard. When he dies again, she'll grieve, but she wouldn't make some devil's bargain in hope of bringing him back. In fact, she's one of the few characters I would trust to take Shep out if he were indoctrinated. And she's abile to have a boyfriend without becoming weaker or less competent.
How could I not love that?
after reading that I realized something
out of all the sqaud mates she is probable the only one who could be consider to be Shepards equal
or is that just me
Garrus, Mordin, Samara and Grunt anyone?
planguy wrote...
kraidy1117 wrote...
planguy wrote...
Tali is willing to put aside differences with Legion, at least if you have high persuade. Her emotions can't be that closed off.
But then you could convince a Hanar that the enkindlers are jerks with a high enough persuade skill.
You just contradicted your point with that Hannar bit......
I am aware. It would be disingenuous of me to ignore the fact that the game allows Shepard to be very, very persuasive. Like Shepard's ability to convince a hardened spy to drop her former employer in favor of him and his ideals.
Both points were mentioned in the first thread quite often... and then again in this thread (probably more than once... I know we were talking about it ~500 pages ago).andysilv87 wrote...
Guardian295 wrote...
after reading that I realized something out of all the sqaud mates she is probable the only one who could be consider to be Shepards equal or is that just me
It's not just you. That's one of the main reasons I chose her as Shepard's LI, she just fits him perfectly IMO.
Modifié par jtav, 31 mars 2010 - 02:12 .
andysilv87 wrote...
Guardian295 wrote...
after reading that I realized something out of all the sqaud mates she is probable the only one who could be consider to be Shepards equal or is that just me
It's not just you. That's one of the main reasons I chose her as Shepard's LI, she just fits him perfectly IMO.
Hehe....read the Miranda Manifest to realize how long this has been implicitly accepted by most people here.Guardian295 wrote...
Morning jtavjtav wrote...
Morning.
About Miranda having more female fans than Tali, I wouldn't know because I don't visit that thread. But Miranda grabbed my attention from the moment she shot Wilson. She's no nonsense, unapologetic ally does what needs to be done and more than capable of taking care of herself. She's passionately committed to a cause, and her eventual rejection of that cause is based purely on principal. Tali and Liara come off as auxiliaries to Shepard. He's the most important thing in their world. Liara pretty much snaps because she "couldn't let you go" and Tali has a massive case of hero worship. Not so Miranda. She has prior goals, ties, and principals. She won't throw them over for Shepard. When he dies again, she'll grieve, but she wouldn't make some devil's bargain in hope of bringing him back. In fact, she's one of the few characters I would trust to take Shep out if he were indoctrinated. And she's abile to have a boyfriend without becoming weaker or less competent.
How could I not love that?
after reading that I realized something
out of all the sqaud mates she is probable the only one who could be consider to be Shepards equal
or is that just me
Shepard could persuade the grim reaper not to take him....planguy wrote...
I am aware. It would be disingenuous of me to ignore the fact that the game allows Shepard to be very, very persuasive. Like Shepard's ability to convince a hardened spy to drop her former employer in favor of him and his ideals.
That should be part of the OP. What about it, DarthReavus?gutty47 wrote...
I'd repost my binary star analagy but thats only a page or so ago.
The person you are trying to contact is currently high on painkillers, please leave a message after the tone....Ieldra2 wrote...
That should be part of the OP. What about it, DarthReavus?gutty47 wrote...
I'd repost my binary star analagy but thats only a page or so ago.
YeahIeldra2 wrote...
Hehe....read the Miranda Manifest to realize how long this has been implicitly accepted by most people here.Guardian295 wrote...
Morning jtavjtav wrote...
Morning.
About Miranda having more female fans than Tali, I wouldn't know because I don't visit that thread. But Miranda grabbed my attention from the moment she shot Wilson. She's no nonsense, unapologetic ally does what needs to be done and more than capable of taking care of herself. She's passionately committed to a cause, and her eventual rejection of that cause is based purely on principal. Tali and Liara come off as auxiliaries to Shepard. He's the most important thing in their world. Liara pretty much snaps because she "couldn't let you go" and Tali has a massive case of hero worship. Not so Miranda. She has prior goals, ties, and principals. She won't throw them over for Shepard. When he dies again, she'll grieve, but she wouldn't make some devil's bargain in hope of bringing him back. In fact, she's one of the few characters I would trust to take Shep out if he were indoctrinated. And she's abile to have a boyfriend without becoming weaker or less competent.
How could I not love that?
after reading that I realized something
out of all the sqaud mates she is probable the only one who could be consider to be Shepards equal
or is that just me
Ieldra2 wrote...
Hehe....read the Miranda Manifest to realize how long this has been implicitly accepted by most people here.Guardian295 wrote...
Morning jtavjtav wrote...
Morning.
About Miranda having more female fans than Tali, I wouldn't know because I don't visit that thread. But Miranda grabbed my attention from the moment she shot Wilson. She's no nonsense, unapologetic ally does what needs to be done and more than capable of taking care of herself. She's passionately committed to a cause, and her eventual rejection of that cause is based purely on principal. Tali and Liara come off as auxiliaries to Shepard. He's the most important thing in their world. Liara pretty much snaps because she "couldn't let you go" and Tali has a massive case of hero worship. Not so Miranda. She has prior goals, ties, and principals. She won't throw them over for Shepard. When he dies again, she'll grieve, but she wouldn't make some devil's bargain in hope of bringing him back. In fact, she's one of the few characters I would trust to take Shep out if he were indoctrinated. And she's abile to have a boyfriend without becoming weaker or less competent.
How could I not love that?
after reading that I realized something
out of all the sqaud mates she is probable the only one who could be consider to be Shepards equal
or is that just me
planguy wrote...
I am aware. It would be disingenuous of me to ignore the fact that the game allows Shepard to be very, very persuasive. Like Shepard's ability to convince a hardened spy to drop her former employer in favor of him and his ideals.
Valmy wrote...
planguy wrote...
I am aware. It would be disingenuous of me to ignore the fact that the game allows Shepard to be very, very persuasive. Like Shepard's ability to convince a hardened spy to drop her former employer in favor of him and his ideals.
'Come on leave your boss!'
'No'
'Please?'
No'
Oh come on be a pal!'
'Well....ok.'
jtav wrote...
The interesting thing is that you don't convince her. She does it even if non-loyal and without a persuasion check.
Speaking of, am I the only one who thinks one of Miranda's duties on the mission was to kill Shepard if he proved uncontrollable?
Modifié par kraidy1117, 31 mars 2010 - 02:35 .
I don't think TIM would sacrifice humanity's possible only chance at salvation from the reapers.jtav wrote...
The interesting thing is that you don't convince her. She does it even if non-loyal and without a persuasion check.
Speaking of, am I the only one who thinks one of Miranda's duties on the mission was to kill Shepard if he proved uncontrollable?
jtav wrote...
The interesting thing is that you don't convince her. She does it even if non-loyal and without a persuasion check.
Speaking of, am I the only one who thinks one of Miranda's duties on the mission was to kill Shepard if he proved uncontrollable?
I may be channelling my inner jtav but it could be argued that Miranda has once again chosen a new master in Shepard.planguy wrote...
I wouldn't really say that Miranda is all that open about her emotions. And is she really "empowered"? She seems to define herself more as a tool then a person, and in many ways her self image is defined by the men in her life. I mean, sure, she rejected her father, but she still let his view of her and her purpose mold her life. And later in her life she joined up with the Illusive Man, whose only virtue in comparsion to her father seems to be that he is up front about using her. Miranda may draw comfort from having chosen a master instead of having one forced on her, but she still chose a master.
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