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[DarthReavus]

Hey! Our American friends are starting to slowly crawl back in!

[Jediknight120]

shinobi602 wrote...

Hey Jedi! Haven't seen you in a while =)

Had a crazy weekend, too much DA:O, etc. Did continue a bit of my 5th ME2 playthrough last night.

[shinobi602]

Hey Mav! What have you been up to lately?

[shinobi602]

Jediknight120 wrote...

shinobi602 wrote...

Hey Jedi! Haven't seen you in a while =)

Had a crazy weekend, too much DA:O, etc. Did continue a bit of my 5th ME2 playthrough last night.

Hmm, didn't see you on last night...do I have your GT?

[Valmy]

jtav wrote...
Me neither. i can live with the "Cerberus stooge" because those denials and excuses drove me insane the first time around.

Really?  Because that strikes me as a rather un-nuanced perspective.  Given who Miranda was and what her relationship with Cerberus was it seemed completely sympathetic and understandable she would have this view which,  incidentally, is shared by almost the entire crew and previous Cerberus turncoats like Grayson.

I think you really have to not be paying any attention to her backstory and how Yvonne acts the character to really be annoyed and unsympathetic to her feelings on Cerberus.  I mean how freaking lame would it be and how horrible writing would it be to have her turn on a dime and rage against Cerberus at the first opportunity?  Now that would have drivin me insane.

You would expect somebody whose family is protected by Cerberus,  and who beleives in Cerberus' stated mission, and whose remarkable career has been due to Cerberus to at least need some proof to go turncoat.  Not just instantly say 'You right, Cerberus bad.  MIRI SMASH!' or whatever people expected.

Modifié par Valmy, 05 avril 2010 - 03:48 .

[Valmy]

Jediknight120 wrote...
too much DA:O, etc.

Impossible!

[Jediknight120]

shinobi602 wrote...

Jediknight120 wrote...

shinobi602 wrote...

Hey Jedi! Haven't seen you in a while =)

Had a crazy weekend, too much DA:O, etc. Did continue a bit of my 5th ME2 playthrough last night.

Hmm, didn't see you on last night...do I have your GT?

I don't think so, I generally don't give it out because I do almost no multiplayer gaming. Jediknight120 if you want to add me.

Oh if you want to add me mention who you are, I reject random friend requests.

Modifié par Jediknight120, 05 avril 2010 - 03:48 .

[shinobi602]

You'll know who I am, GT is same as my username lol.



What about you Mavi? Don't think I have you either.

[KalenNighteyes]

>_> Hey guys... Sorry I've not been around much lately...

[Valmy]

KalenNighteyes wrote...

>_> Hey guys... Sorry I've not been around much lately...

No worries come visit us when you can.

[jtav]

Valmy wrote...

jtav wrote...
Me neither. i can live with the "Cerberus stooge" because those denials and excuses drove me insane the first time around.

Really?  Because that strikes me as a rather un-nuanced perspective.  Given who Miranda was and what her relationship with Cerberus was it seemed completely sympathetic and understandable she would have this view which,  incidentally, is shared by almost the entire crew and previous Cerberus turncoats like Grayson.

I think you really have to not be paying any attention to her backstory and how Yvonne acts the character to really be annoyed and unsympathetic to her feelings on Cerberus.  I mean how freaking lame would it be and how horrible writing would it be to have her turn on a dime and rage against Cerberus at the first opportunity?  Now that would have drivin me insane.

You would expect somebody whose family is protected by Cerberus,  and who beleives in Cerberus' stated mission, and whose remarkable career has been due to Cerberus to at least need some proof to go turncoat.  Not just instantly say 'You right, Cerberus bad.  MIRI SMASH!' or whatever people expected.

Valmy, I like what they did. Miranda cannot behave other than how she does, given her background. A "turn on a dime" change wouldn't be desirable or believable. She drove me crazy in the way a real person that I strongly disagreed with would drive me crazy. I can see how someone with an unsusually vivid memory of the ME sidequests would want to throw her out the airlock.

[Valmy]

jtav wrote...
Valmy, I like what they did. Miranda cannot behave other than how she does, given her background. A "turn on a dime" change wouldn't be desirable or believable. She drove me crazy in the way a real person that I strongly disagreed with would drive me crazy. I can see how someone with an unsusually vivid memory of the ME sidequests would want to throw her out the airlock.

Well at least she didn't join having full knowledge of what Cerberus did from Shepard's point of view or what happened to Kohaku and his men.   Joker and Chakwas, on the other hand, were there the whole time and saw what you saw and joined anyway.   Yet people don't want to throw them out the airlock.  You want to explain that one to me?

Besides I am not even entirely unsympathetic to the idea of using creatures to help defend human colonies, even if using husks, Thorian Creepers, and Rakhni were just bad ideas.  At least Miranda admits they were bad ideas even if the intententions were, on the surface anyway, not entirely unreasonable.

Modifié par Valmy, 05 avril 2010 - 04:11 .

[gutty47]

Valmy wrote...
Joker and Chakwas, on the other hand, were there the whole time and saw what you saw and joined anyway.   Yet people don't want to throw them out the airlock.  You want to explain that one to me?

They were in ME1... duh.

[jtav]

Because they were in the first game. Don't you know the ME cast can do no wrong? *rolls eyes*

Makes me wonder though: how does she know about the husks and rachni? Did TIM tell her? She obviously wasn't on site or she'd be dead. Part of me wants one of those projects to be her idea (in a "husks would make good shock troops" sense not "lets turn an entire colony into husks" sense), but have other people responsible for implementing them in ways that turned into atrocities.

[Andysilv]

shinobi602 wrote...

You'll know who I am, GT is same as my username lol.

What about you Mavi? Don't think I have you either.

You just changed yours to match your username didn't you Shin? 

[Andysilv]

Hey I just realised I have a rank in the group! Ninja Twin, lol. That is awesome Shin.

[Jediknight120]

andysilv87 wrote...

Hey I just realised I have a rank in the group! Ninja Twin, lol. That is awesome Shin.

Hey why do YOU get special treatment! I want to be an officer!

[Valmy]

jtav wrote...

Because they were in the first game. Don't you know the ME cast can do no wrong? *rolls eyes*

Makes me wonder though: how does she know about the husks and rachni? Did TIM tell her? She obviously wasn't on site or she'd be dead. Part of me wants one of those projects to be her idea (in a "husks would make good shock troops" sense not "lets turn an entire colony into husks" sense), but have other people responsible for implementing them in ways that turned into atrocities.

Ah I was not aware of the ME1 rule.   Kaidan and Ashley seem to be exempt from that rule though.

What exactly she knows is a point of speculation.  She has access to alot of Cerberus files but clearly not everything.  She seemed to be rather shocked, and honestly shocked, at the details of the Subject Zero project.  Though I am not sure how raising kids to be biotic superpeople was ever going to be ethically squeaky clean.

[Valmy]

Maviarab wrote...

Exactly Gutty.....and they joined Cerberus...and have no issues with Miranda do they?

Joker seems to fear her but that's it