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[Andysilv]

AccursedOdin wrote...

*Ambles into thread*

Hi everyone!

I woke up early to go out and rent L4D2. I was successful.

Odin! Well done on L4D2, I ordered it this morning, I'm hoping it will arrive tomorrow.

[MassAffected]

Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien wrote...

IccaRa wrote...

Would this happen to be the quote?

CaseyH-ME2: We actually want to make sure these characters survive the ME2 story, which ultimately is a suicide mission: some of your crew will almost certainly die. Some of the ME1 characters are back, and recruitable (more than you might think), and the ones that aren't still play an important role in the story and will be around for ME3 - which we can't say for the new characters.

Well when you think about it, they couldn't say anything about the ME2 characters regarding ME3 because then that would be giving potential spoilers. That and obviously some of them we know have a chance of not being around anyway even if they did survive the suicide mission.

Miranda if she survives the suicide mission is naturally going to stay on because her goal has always been to help combat the reapers.

In my opinion people are making far too big a thing out of this. Naturally aided by some of the sad low lifes that are bitter at how their ME faves were handled in ME2. Though once again it falls down to the aforementioned quote making something bigger than it really was.

That and she is the XO

Like I said earlier, it mostly seems like hype to the whole "Suicide Mission" (I've dismissed this claim) and the fact that its possible to have team members die.

Modifié par MassAffected, 08 avril 2010 - 06:31 .

[MegWithAMouth]

Hey Odin!



And yay for you and Andy acquiring L4D2! Nadia is going to be *so* pleased.

[Jebel Krong]

Sleepy Buddha wrote...

Kabraxal wrote...

I just don't want to be the cause of this thread getting closed.  That is all I'm worried about. 

I think if they closed our thread for that, they'd have to close the others as well.

It's just not possible to write endlessly about characters we only got to explore for the duration of 1 or 2 games.

And I think our exploration and examination of Miranda's character has been much more in-depth than that of other support threads.

*snip*

this - compared to the sea of bull**** out there, this thread is a haven. i mean how many threads under this new forum structure are just full of whingeing morons - lately those complaining about playing a very cheap price for AAA quality kasumi dlc.

[Andysilv]

MegWithAMouth wrote...
Nadia is going to be *so* pleased.

Then my work here is done, hehe.

[DarthReavus]

MegWithAMouth wrote...

Hey Odin!

And yay for you and Andy acquiring L4D2! Nadia is going to be *so* pleased.

At last!  I can run around splatting zombies with a cricket bat!

[Andysilv]

DarthReavus wrote...

MegWithAMouth wrote...

Hey Odin!

And yay for you and Andy acquiring L4D2! Nadia is going to be *so* pleased.

At last!  I can run around splatting zombies with a cricket bat!

Can you really use a cricket bat? Because that is just awesome. As long as you don't go around shouting "4,4,6,wide,duck,silly point" etc.

[jtav]

I wish I had your confidence. I remember I came up with a scenario to cameo Miranda that was plausible enough to bother Ieldra, of all people. And I don't even get paid to write.

[DarthReavus]

andysilv87 wrote...

DarthReavus wrote...

MegWithAMouth wrote...

Hey Odin!

And yay for you and Andy acquiring L4D2! Nadia is going to be *so* pleased.

At last!  I can run around splatting zombies with a cricket bat!

Can you really use a cricket bat? Because that is just awesome. As long as you don't go around shouting "4,4,6,wide,duck,silly point" etc.

Yes, there is indeed a cricket bat!  That is my official weapon of choice, just like in Shaun of the Dead

[Jebel Krong]

Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien wrote...

IccaRa wrote...

Would this happen to be the quote?

CaseyH-ME2: We actually want to make sure these characters survive the ME2 story, which ultimately is a suicide mission: some of your crew will almost certainly die. Some of the ME1 characters are back, and recruitable (more than you might think), and the ones that aren't still play an important role in the story and will be around for ME3 - which we can't say for the new characters.

Well when you think about it, they couldn't say anything about the ME2 characters regarding ME3 because then that would be giving potential spoilers. That and obviously some of them we know have a chance of not being around anyway even if they did survive the suicide mission.

Miranda if she survives the suicide mission is naturally going to stay on because her goal has always been to help combat the reapers.

In my opinion people are making far too big a thing out of this. Naturally aided by some of the sad low lifes that are bitter at how their ME faves were handled in ME2. Though once again it falls down to the aforementioned quote making something bigger than it really was.

they also specifically stated that when casting they looked for voice-talent that they could get to come back - so even martin sheen is a reasonable bet. i would wager yvonne is 90% certain to be back as well, being the 2nd most recognisable voice-talent AND a squad member.

[AccursedOdin]

DarthReavus wrote...

MegWithAMouth wrote...

Hey Odin!

And yay for you and Andy acquiring L4D2! Nadia is going to be *so* pleased.

At last!  I can run around splatting zombies with a cricket bat!

A fellow cricket bat enthusiast? Awesome!!

[DarkSeraphym]

I'm not too worried about the chances that she won't be involved much in the third game at all, even after seeing that quote. Most game developers will say stuff in the beginning stages of game production and then as it starts to unfold, ideas change. It's obvious that BioWare listened to their fans from ME to ME2 in scrapping the Mako and the inventory system and with the immense support flowing out for the Shep/Miri romance, I won't be surprised if this is something they plan to build on in the third game.



Also, I have a list of reasons why I think Miranda's romance will be built upon in the third game:



1. Of all the romances available in the second game, I think Miranda's feels the most natural. She is a natural leader, like Shepard, and the two are so similar in a great deal of different aspects. Likewise, she is the character in the second game with the strongest connection towards you; I mean she did head the Lazarus Project that brought you back and throughout the Redemption series, she seemed to develop an obsession with acquiring your body.



2. Miranda plays too pivotal of a role to just scrap her and leave her behind. She has a massive role in the story-line of the game and also happens to be one of the crew members that is the hardest to kill in the suicide mission. In fact, the only time I recall anyone being able to do it is if you got the ending where Shepard dies. Assuming this information is true, I think it shows us that Miranda is so hard to kill because BioWare has her as a character of importance in the third game.



3. As mentioned on the first page, Ashley Williams could easily equate to fire as Miranda can to ice. Since the characters are from polar opposite ends of the spectrum and I can imagine will be butting heads in the third game (assuming Williams can be recruited), I cannot see how BioWare would possibly just let Miranda slip by as a character. One of the themes that was prevalent in the second game was not only the flaws in the characters themselves, but how the other characters responded to these flaws. I can easily forsee BioWare keeping these two characters as part of your crew simply because they would continue that theme in the third game.

[Andysilv]

DarthReavus wrote...
Yes, there is indeed a cricket bat!  That is my official weapon of choice, just like in Shaun of the Dead

I like the idea of melee weapons. Hmm...*gets excited with flashbacks of Dead Rising*

[DarthReavus]

AccursedOdin wrote...

DarthReavus wrote...

MegWithAMouth wrote...

Hey Odin!

And yay for you and Andy acquiring L4D2! Nadia is going to be *so* pleased.

At last!  I can run around splatting zombies with a cricket bat!

A fellow cricket bat enthusiast? Awesome!!

Don't even THINK about stealing my cricket bat!  And I call Nick btw, suit + cricket bat ftw!

[AccursedOdin]

andysilv87 wrote...

DarthReavus wrote...
Yes, there is indeed a cricket bat!  That is my official weapon of choice, just like in Shaun of the Dead

I like the idea of melee weapons. Hmm...*gets excited with flashbacks of Dead Rising*

You and me both, if you think I'm deadly with a shotty, gimme a chainsaw or a cricket bat and watch me work!

Edit: @Darth- I call Ellis! Unless we're playing with Flashy. Then I call Coach.

Modifié par AccursedOdin, 08 avril 2010 - 06:41 .

[MassAffected]

jtav wrote...

I wish I had your confidence. I remember I came up with a scenario to cameo Miranda that was plausible enough to bother Ieldra, of all people. And I don't even get paid to write.

Gooo on...

The way I see it is like this. Why worry about it at this point where we simply have no idea one way or the other. I see a lot of folks worry themselves into a frenzy (not saying that you are) when they should focus on something else. Once we get some news about ME3 then we can start to worry, depending on the news that is.

[Sleepy Buddha]

DarkSeraphym wrote...
.....
Also, I have a list of reasons why I think Miranda's romance will be built upon in the third game:

1. Of all the romances available in the second game, I think Miranda's feels the most natural. She is a natural leader, like Shepard, and the two are so similar in a great deal of different aspects. Likewise, she is the character in the second game with the strongest connection towards you; I mean she did head the Lazarus Project that brought you back and throughout the Redemption series, she seemed to develop an obsession with acquiring your body.

2. Miranda plays too pivotal of a role to just scrap her and leave her behind. She has a massive role in the story-line of the game and also happens to be one of the crew members that is the hardest to kill in the suicide mission. In fact, the only time I recall anyone being able to do it is if you got the ending where Shepard dies. Assuming this information is true, I think it shows us that Miranda is so hard to kill because BioWare has her as a character of importance in the third game.

3. As mentioned on the first page, Ashley Williams could easily equate to fire as Miranda can to ice. Since the characters are from polar opposite ends of the spectrum and I can imagine will be butting heads in the third game (assuming Williams can be recruited), I cannot see how BioWare would possibly just let Miranda slip by as a character. One of the themes that was prevalent in the second game was not only the flaws in the characters themselves, but how the other characters responded to these flaws. I can easily forsee BioWare keeping these two characters as part of your crew simply because they would continue that theme in the third game.

Nice summary, DarkSeraphym. Agreed on all counts.

I think these kinds of reasons extrapolated from the game itself trump an ambiguous quote from a dev pre-release.

Modifié par Sleepy Buddha, 08 avril 2010 - 06:47 .

[jtav]

In a vain attempt to live up to my title:

Is there anything that could be revealed about Miranda in ME3 that would destroy your affection for her. I have two:

1) Her father was merely cold or distant and had never done anything to warrant taking Oriana. I take a dim view of child kidnappers and an even dimmer view of being manipulated so thoroughly.

2) She knowingly implanted Reaper tech into Shepard and knew there was a risk of indoctrination.



I don't rate either scenario as likely.

[Ieldra]

gutty47 wrote...

I've been digging through pictures trying to find something and I thought this was worthy of reposting.

Detail for the win.

:wub: Miranda eyes make me melt. Although it's even nicer if you see them in her complete face.

[Ieldra]

Valmy wrote...

jtav wrote...

As long as I'm brainstorming:
Has Miranda ever met Paul Grayson that we know of? Does she ever talk about the attack on the Idenna? If she does, how does she justify it?

Yes she does at the very beginning of the game at Freedom's Progress.  She doesn't justify it exactly as say it was nothing personal.  My memory is hazy on that point.

I always wonder why people think that "it's nothing personal" is any kind of justification. This is the only time I get angry at her.

[MassAffected]

jtav wrote...

In a vain attempt to live up to my title:
Is there anything that could be revealed about Miranda in ME3 that would destroy your affection for her. I have two:
1) Her father was merely cold or distant and had never done anything to warrant taking Oriana. I take a dim view of child kidnappers and an even dimmer view of being manipulated so thoroughly.
2) She knowingly implanted Reaper tech into Shepard and knew there was a risk of indoctrination.

I don't rate either scenario as likely.

I think #2 is actually a likely scenario, but it won't cause me to lose respect for her or anything.

[Valmy]

Ieldra2 wrote...
I always wonder why people think that "it's nothing personal" is any kind of justification. This is the only time I get angry at her.

And it is not even true it was personal

The Illusive Man was pretty freaking angry at Grayson and Co.

[Valmy]

MassAffected wrote...

I think #2 is actually a likely scenario, but it won't cause me to lose respect for her or anything.

I really don't.

It is something game developers tend to avoid like the plague: having the player lose control of their character.

[redBadger14]

Hey everybody! Back from classes. Thank you Darth for sending the troll info to Stanley Woo, greatly appreciated.

I feel left out now, I have L4D2 but for PC, that's even worse :'( Cuz I wanna play with you all.

Oh well I still have GTA4 and Gears ^-^ And Kab is playing GTA with us today which should be fun, and Nadia still needs to get GTA4!