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gutty47 wrote...
I assume the promise is something like "I'll help find information on your father" and it was likely made during whatever romance there was between Miranda and Jacob.
Making sense is not a requirement for marketing I guess.Valmy wrote...
gutty47 wrote...
I assume the promise is something like "I'll help find information on your father" and it was likely made during whatever romance there was between Miranda and Jacob.
Miranda has an admirable level of integrity for a supposedly femme-fatale character.
I still cannot figure out why they described her that way then wrote her a totally different way. A classic example of show don't tell.
jtav wrote...
I've been thinking about what I would have done if I'd been in charge of Miranda's romance since I've been vocal about how much I hate the actual culmination scene, and I've come up with something that I like. Warning:this is unabashedly sentimental. Not for all viewers.
What I would've done is split the romance into two paths during the last normal conversation. If you choose either "Love?" or "don't know, don't care" then the romance plays out as normal except that Miranda doesn't ask you to promise her that you won't die. Instead, you get something much more funny and flirty -- more in keeping with the engine room scene.
However, if you agree to remain friends until you save the galaxy, then the romance is different. I'd tweak the dialogue to emphasize that Miranda doesn't want to give her heart away only to see it broken. There'd be an even stronger undercurrent of "when this is over..."
When you go through the relay, Miranda would come to your quarters. She's been doing some thinking, and decided that she doesn't want to wait after all. She then asks you to promise that you won't die. Same dialog as we have now (hug and "worth it" included), except she kisses you passionately at the end. Cue sex scene.
Good idea? Horrible?
jtav wrote...
I've been thinking about what I would have done if I'd been in charge of Miranda's romance since I've been vocal about how much I hate the actual culmination scene, and I've come up with something that I like. Warning:this is unabashedly sentimental. Not for all viewers.
What I would've done is split the romance into two paths during the last normal conversation. If you choose either "Love?" or "don't know, don't care" then the romance plays out as normal except that Miranda doesn't ask you to promise her that you won't die. Instead, you get something much more funny and flirty -- more in keeping with the engine room scene.
However, if you agree to remain friends until you save the galaxy, then the romance is different. I'd tweak the dialogue to emphasize that Miranda doesn't want to give her heart away only to see it broken. There'd be an even stronger undercurrent of "when this is over..."
When you go through the relay, Miranda would come to your quarters. She's been doing some thinking, and decided that she doesn't want to wait after all. She then asks you to promise that you won't die. Same dialog as we have now (hug and "worth it" included), except she kisses you passionately at the end. Cue sex scene.
Good idea? Horrible?
Quite good. Way better than what we've got and only one more scene. It could've been done without too much effort. Too bad it can't be changed....jtav wrote...
I've been thinking about what I would have done if I'd been in charge of Miranda's romance since I've been vocal about how much I hate the actual culmination scene, and I've come up with something that I like. Warning:this is unabashedly sentimental. Not for all viewers.
What I would've done is split the romance into two paths during the last normal conversation. If you choose either "Love?" or "don't know, don't care" then the romance plays out as normal except that Miranda doesn't ask you to promise her that you won't die. Instead, you get something much more funny and flirty -- more in keeping with the engine room scene.
However, if you agree to remain friends until you save the galaxy, then the romance is different. I'd tweak the dialogue to emphasize that Miranda doesn't want to give her heart away only to see it broken. There'd be an even stronger undercurrent of "when this is over..."
When you go through the relay, Miranda would come to your quarters. She's been doing some thinking, and decided that she doesn't want to wait after all. She then asks you to promise that you won't die. Same dialog as we have now (hug and "worth it" included), except she kisses you passionately at the end. Cue sex scene.
Good idea? Horrible?
I think Miranda is a bit like that - schizophrenic in her approach to romance. I like that. I can see myself playing both paths of your changed script without it feeling out-of-character for Miranda. Except, maybe, the bit about her coming to Shepard's quarter. I think even in this path she'd be more the type to draw him into hers.jtav wrote...
Ieldra, hopefully ME3 will lean closer to an "It's worth it" feel than "Meet me in the engine room in five minutes" Not that I'm holding my breath. What's frustrating is that it took me about an hour to come up with that, and I'm an amateur. And it's mostly just editing the script that's there. Grr.
The tone of the romance is so schizophrenic that I'm never sure how I was supposed to take it.
Maybe. The last two days some of the regulars have been conspicuously absent (and active in other threads and group discussions in some cases). I don't mind having to read a bit less in the morning for a time.It happens to all the character threads. Except for Tali's it seems, which seemingly has a critical mass - sufficient for a nuclear post explosion every day.Annjul666 wrote...
is it only me, or did you notice that the thread is slowing down every week...
Modifié par Ieldra2, 14 avril 2010 - 03:54 .
I can only say thank you, gutty. This is excellent work. At last I can see all the options I've never taken because I feared what would hide behind them. Damn the dialogue wheel - I wish the text gave a better indication of what to expect.gutty47 wrote...
This new update doesn't contain much new stuff but it does horribly break any existing bookmarks except for links to the default page:
http://gutty47.110mb.com/dialogue.php
This was required so I could add more dialogue all around the existing bits of conversation. I shouldn't have to break bookmarks until ME3... hopefully.
Ieldra2 wrote...
Maybe. The last two days some of the regulars have been conspicuously absent (and active in other threads and group discussions in some cases).
I'm always watching....andysilv87 wrote...
Ieldra2 wrote...
Maybe. The last two days some of the regulars have been conspicuously absent (and active in other threads and group discussions in some cases).
*Fears he's been found out*
DarthReavus wrote...
I'm always watching....andysilv87 wrote...
Ieldra2 wrote...
Maybe. The last two days some of the regulars have been conspicuously absent (and active in other threads and group discussions in some cases).
*Fears he's been found out*
jtav wrote...
I've been thinking about what I would have done if I'd been in charge of Miranda's romance since I've been vocal about how much I hate the actual culmination scene, and I've come up with something that I like. Warning:this is unabashedly sentimental. Not for all viewers.
What I would've done is split the romance into two paths during the last normal conversation. If you choose either "Love?" or "don't know, don't care" then the romance plays out as normal except that Miranda doesn't ask you to promise her that you won't die. Instead, you get something much more funny and flirty -- more in keeping with the engine room scene.
However, if you agree to remain friends until you save the galaxy, then the romance is different. I'd tweak the dialogue to emphasize that Miranda doesn't want to give her heart away only to see it broken. There'd be an even stronger undercurrent of "when this is over..."
When you go through the relay, Miranda would come to your quarters. She's been doing some thinking, and decided that she doesn't want to wait after all. She then asks you to promise that you won't die. Same dialog as we have now (hug and "worth it" included), except she kisses you passionately at the end. Cue sex scene.
Good idea? Horrible?
Modifié par jtav, 14 avril 2010 - 04:49 .
I'm having a bit of a bad day so I'm not quite as active as I have been.jtav wrote...
Darth, andy: There you two are. You had me worried.
Yes, dramatically it's stronger, but can you imagine Miranda coming to him, just like that? I think she'd not be that straightforward. It seems, well, perhaps a bit too serious. It loses that element of playfulness that seems to define how she approaches these things, in this case masking the depth of what she feels with it. It would depend on the scene details, of course, but...hmm...I can't wrap my mind about it.jtav wrote...
Ieldra, I'm curious, why do you feel it's more in character for Miranda to ask him to come to her? As for my choice in
the revision, Miranda's initially more reluctant to begin the relationship, so I thought it was stronger dramatically to have her come to him. If Shepard had been the one who originally suggested that it was all hormones or similar, I would have him come to her.
Modifié par Ieldra2, 14 avril 2010 - 05:03 .
jtav wrote...
andy: I really like the idea of splitting it. As it stands, a chunk of the playerbase sees the romance as a fling. I don't like that interp, but I see where it comes from. This way, the player gets to pick. The "Friends?" bit is one of my favorites and I find it romantic. How ironic that it breaks the romance.
) and emotional scene. It fits her character well too. 
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