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jtav wrote...

Maybe so, PA, but everyone seems (jokingly) shocked when I say I found something romantic or come up with a positive scenario. I can't do both?

Nah, it was just unexpected when you suddenly starting doing that. You can certainly do both :P

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I think it depends on the dev. I usually enjoy Gaider's romances. Not to be sexist, but I wonder if it's a gender issue. Presumably the romance was written to appeal to men. My natural preference would be to scrap the engine room scene and replace it with mine, but I suspect that wouldn't go over well.

I dislike the location, but not the scene as such. I'd like it to be moved, and being able to select an alternative path would be nice. But scrapping it altogether, no, I wouldn't like that.

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I like that it comes across without the least bit of solemnity, while still getting across that it has a great deal of meaning for Shepard and Miranda. It's also this "let's come together before the world blows up in our faces" mood. And no, I do not think it only appeals to stereotypical male teenagers - I am not one.  

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Valmy wrote...

gutty47 wrote...

jtav wrote...

Valmy: sof-ty. Seriously, replace "men" with "stereotypical teenage male who primarily appreciates Miranda for fanservice" I fear we romantics are outnumbered, at least as a percentage of ME players.

Honestly, I think only romantics are still posting here. The fanservice fans are all off playing whatever latest game has come out and posting in those forums.


I think the Bioware core fans are mostly romantics.  We play these games for the characters.

Heck I have always just done the fights to get the next plot point for as long as I can remember.  Games are just another way, the best way IMO, of telling stories and exploring characters.

QFT.
Sure the game would be less interesting without the fights, but I never play in the higher difficulties, just high enough that the enemies are not total pushovers, but still let me get through with some speed and with death being very rare. Those missions where you have a lot of character interaction in-between are the best. 

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jtav wrote...

Valmy: sof-ty. Seriously, replace "men" with "stereotypical teenage male who primarily appreciates Miranda for fanservice" I fear we romantics are outnumbered, at least as a percentage of ME players.



It really is sad that this is true, how some people just don't even try to look at her character. Miranda deserves much better.

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KingNu11 wrote...

jtav wrote...

Valmy: sof-ty. Seriously, replace "men" with "stereotypical teenage male who primarily appreciates Miranda for fanservice" I fear we romantics are outnumbered, at least as a percentage of ME players.



It really is sad that this is true, how some people just don't even try to look at her character. Miranda deserves much better.


I agree.
But I don't think romantics are outnumbered.

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Unless something is screwing up on my end, I believe we have 1000 members in the group! Funny thing is, I look at the group on my profile page and it says 1002, though in the actual group only just 1000.

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Group: ''Anti-Miranda

8 members, led by INVAYNED - updated 2 day(s) ago''



I wish these 8 will be brought back into the light soon.

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Melrache wrote...

Group: ''Anti-Miranda
8 members, led by INVAYNED - updated 2 day(s) ago''

I wish these 8 will be brought back into the light soon.


:crying:

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Melrache wrote...

Group: ''Anti-Miranda
8 members, led by INVAYNED - updated 2 day(s) ago''

I wish these 8 will be brought back into the light soon.


:crying:


A piece of me just died inside:crying:

#36285
Andysilv

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Da Shadow Master wrote...

andysilv87 wrote...

Melrache wrote...

Group: ''Anti-Miranda
8 members, led by INVAYNED - updated 2 day(s) ago''

I wish these 8 will be brought back into the light soon.


:crying:


A piece of me just died inside:crying:


Yes, it's very sad. But you know what it's like, a character gets popular and people decide it would be "cool" to start hating on said character. It's the way of the internet unfortunately.

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andysilv87 wrote...

Da Shadow Master wrote...

andysilv87 wrote...

Melrache wrote...

Group: ''Anti-Miranda
8 members, led by INVAYNED - updated 2 day(s) ago''

I wish these 8 will be brought back into the light soon.


:crying:




A piece of me just died inside:crying:


Yes, it's very sad. But you know what it's like, a character gets popular and people decide it would be "cool" to start hating on said character. It's the way of the internet unfortunately.


Like the anti Tali, Liara, Ash and Garrus people?

Modifié par kraidy1117, 14 avril 2010 - 09:43 .


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How long was it between Miranda's escape and when she joined Cerberus? I figure it was no longer than a few weeks, and probably more like a few days. I never really thought about it, but she would have essentially been functioning as a surrogate parent for Oriana during the interim: feedin her, changing diapers, etc. Even though she's smart enough to know it would be a truly horrible idea for her to even attempt to raise her, you know she bonded with the kid. Must have hurt like hell to give her away, knowing she'd never see her again.

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jtav wrote...

How long was it between Miranda's escape and when she joined Cerberus? I figure it was no longer than a few weeks, and probably more like a few days. I never really thought about it, but she would have essentially been functioning as a surrogate parent for Oriana during the interim: feedin her, changing diapers, etc. Even though she's smart enough to know it would be a truly horrible idea for her to even attempt to raise her, you know she bonded with the kid. Must have hurt like hell to give her away, knowing she'd never see her again.


I would say about a week most likely. As she says it, her father is very wealthy and has alot of contacts, he knows she works for Cernerus, which will bring some problems since she quits Cerberus and stays with Shepard. Lets hope her father is scared of Shepard :whistle:

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Lassie: *Barks*

What's that, Lassie?

A quick sketch of Shepard & Miranda kissing?!:o

Image IPB

Do you feel loved when you see this? :wizard:

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Niiice sketch.

About the hate thread: eh, people will like who they dislike. Garrus and Wrex rank near the bottom for me (especially Garrus). No character is universally loved. I'm actually surprised the group's not larger. Elsewhere on the net, I've been met with astonishment when I said Miranda was my favorite.

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kraidy1117 wrote...

jtav wrote...

How long was it between Miranda's escape and when she joined Cerberus? I figure it was no longer than a few weeks, and probably more like a few days. I never really thought about it, but she would have essentially been functioning as a surrogate parent for Oriana during the interim: feedin her, changing diapers, etc. Even though she's smart enough to know it would be a truly horrible idea for her to even attempt to raise her, you know she bonded with the kid. Must have hurt like hell to give her away, knowing she'd never see her again.


I would say about a week most likely. As she says it, her father is very wealthy and has alot of contacts, he knows she works for Cernerus, which will bring some problems since she quits Cerberus and stays with Shepard. Lets hope her father is scared of Shepard :whistle:


If he's got any sense, he'll not start anything - no matter what background Shep has, there is a certain elemental force of nature/irrestible force aspect to Shep that tends to bode ill for those who cross him/her.

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SgtPotato wrote...

Lassie: *Barks*

What's that, Lassie?

A quick sketch of Shepard & Miranda kissing?!:o

Image IPB

Do you feel loved when you see this? :wizard:



Nice sketch, you obviously have some talent!

#36293
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jtav wrote...

Niiice sketch.
About the hate thread: eh, people will like who they dislike. Garrus and Wrex rank near the bottom for me (especially Garrus). No character is universally loved. I'm actually surprised the group's not larger. Elsewhere on the net, I've been met with astonishment when I said Miranda was my favorite.


Alot of people like Miri, it's that shes overshadowed by characters like Tali and Garrus.

#36294
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Prudii Aden wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

jtav wrote...

How long was it between Miranda's escape and when she joined Cerberus? I figure it was no longer than a few weeks, and probably more like a few days. I never really thought about it, but she would have essentially been functioning as a surrogate parent for Oriana during the interim: feedin her, changing diapers, etc. Even though she's smart enough to know it would be a truly horrible idea for her to even attempt to raise her, you know she bonded with the kid. Must have hurt like hell to give her away, knowing she'd never see her again.


I would say about a week most likely. As she says it, her father is very wealthy and has alot of contacts, he knows she works for Cernerus, which will bring some problems since she quits Cerberus and stays with Shepard. Lets hope her father is scared of Shepard :whistle:


If he's got any sense, he'll not start anything - no matter what background Shep has, there is a certain elemental force of nature/irrestible force aspect to Shep that tends to bode ill for those who cross him/her.


Hock did't know who Gunn was :whistle:

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Dumb question, but what would Miranda's day-to-day duties aboard the Normandy be? She can't be spending all that time writing reports. XOs are supposed to handle administrative and personnel matters, but I'm unsure what that means on a non-military vessel. The only thing I can think of is she's in charge of making sure they don't run out of supplies and things like that.



On a related note, am I the only one who thinks she and Shep would be even more formal with each other in front of the crew once they're in public. I can see them almost making a game of who could be more scrupulous about protocol.

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jtav wrote...

Dumb question, but what would Miranda's day-to-day duties aboard the Normandy be? She can't be spending all that time writing reports. XOs are supposed to handle administrative and personnel matters, but I'm unsure what that means on a non-military vessel. The only thing I can think of is she's in charge of making sure they don't run out of supplies and things like that.


Cerberus has arranged to transport Rolston's family off New Canton and send them to Earth at no expense.
Crewman Rolston: Another colony's gone missing.
Crewman Patel: Ferris Fields -- I heard. That's not far from New Canton. Did you family get back to Earth?
Crewman Rolston: Not yet. My mother-in-law is giving us grief.
Crewman Rolston: Operative Lawson assures me the transport team will physically drag them away if need be.


I think thats the only ingame explanation of Miranda's duties other than writing reports for Cerberus. Its not even very informative.

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You know, I actually kinda liked the Shep/Miri romance scene mainly because it was more than lust, it was passionate and it's more than possible to have passion other than just in the bedroom. Maybe the end of the scene was a bit 'off' though when the camera pans past the powerplant, but otherwise I liked it... especially since they didn't speak, they just acted in unision. I thought it was rather sensual without being over the top. To me it felt more spontaneous and both more and less real than the encounter with Ashley.



I think Miranda has been with Cerberus for far longer than a week before Project Lazarus as well, mainly because Miranda would of had to be 'tested' by the Illusive Man for a bit before being tasked with the single greatest project Cerberus has arguably undertaken.

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How many of us actually *loved* the fact that their romance/love scene wasn't fluffy lovemaking?

Not just sex, but not the exact opposite either. I dig.

Modifié par DarthCyclopsRLZ, 15 avril 2010 - 02:19 .


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Melrache wrote...

Group: ''Anti-Miranda
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I wish these 8 will be brought back into the light soon.


Well, hey...think of it like this: not everyone can have good taste. :happy:

Modifié par AccursedOdin, 15 avril 2010 - 03:40 .


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Melrache wrote...

Group: ''Anti-Miranda
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I wish these 8 will be brought back into the light soon.


Nah I would resent sharing electrons with anybody who makes an anti-character group.