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[Valmy]

jtav wrote...

Bloody hell. I forgot about the Conduit.

On an unrelated note, but am I the only one who hopes we don't get "where are they now?" epilogues in ME3. I have a very strong bias toward letting the player imagine what happily ever after looks like. Partly because I've changed my mind on that several times and partly because I've talked with others about Miranda and wondered if we played the same game.

Who have you been talking to about Miranda that has you wondering that?  On your blog?

Anyway I would like an epilogue like in Dragon Age if we can get one.

[jtav]

Mostly people on other threads. "It's a fling."/"No, it's not."

[icarus414]

The opening post was filled with some shockingly bad writing, but it certainly got the point across. I myself am in the "didn't think I'd like her, but..." camp. I'm a huge fan of Chuck*, and that likely contributed; the more I got to know Miranda, the more I realized just how very much like Sarah Walker she is. Yes, there's the obvious physical resemblance, but we can also look beyond that.

They're both gorgeous, intelligent, highly capable women. Both have deep-seated self esteem issues, kept well hidden but always present and informing their behaviour. Both are fundamentally good people working for morally dubious bosses who adopt a coldly "ends justify the means" outlook. Both are fiercely protective of the people they love. Both adopt a closed off and businesslike demeanor because they feel it's required of them, but clearly wish to be able to connect to others on an emotional level.

I could probably go on, but I feel my point is made. It's actually rather funny - I'd intended my iteration of Shepard to be a bit more of a hardass, but Miranda managed to bring out his inner Bartowski and I finished the game solidly on the Paragon side of the fence. And you know what? I liked having my decisions informed by the fact that a particular squadmate was standing next to me. It's really the litmus test for romantic love, I think: your partner should make you want to be a better person. For that reason alone, Miranda deserves - needs - to be in ME3. Dropping her would be a disservice to the game.




*Seriously - it's ridiculous just how much I love this show. Watch it.

[Kabraxal]

Save Miri!



http://social.biowar...20&poll_id=4848



Do NOT tick Miri's name, you are voting for who should die.

[jtav]

That scenario doesn't make any sense... voted for Garrus.



I actually wouldn't mind if she died in ME3, as long as it wasn't cheap or contrived.

[Kabraxal]

I think the Tali fans feel threatened by the awesomeness that is our godess.

[Valmy]

jtav wrote...

Mostly people on other threads. "It's a fling."/"No, it's not."

Yeah I have wondered that myself.  I would presume they were illiterate if Yvonne Strahovski was not reading it to them.

[Valmy]

icarus414 wrote...

The opening post was filled with some shockingly bad writing, but it certainly got the point across. I myself am in the "didn't think I'd like her, but..." camp. I'm a huge fan of Chuck*, and that likely contributed; the more I got to know Miranda, the more I realized just how very much like Sarah Walker she is. Yes, there's the obvious physical resemblance, but we can also look beyond that.

They're both gorgeous, intelligent, highly capable women. Both have deep-seated self esteem issues, kept well hidden but always present and informing their behaviour. Both are fundamentally good people working for morally dubious bosses who adopt a coldly "ends justify the means" outlook. Both are fiercely protective of the people they love. Both adopt a closed off and businesslike demeanor because they feel it's required of them, but clearly wish to be able to connect to others on an emotional level.

I could probably go on, but I feel my point is made. It's actually rather funny - I'd intended my iteration of Shepard to be a bit more of a hardass, but Miranda managed to bring out his inner Bartowski and I finished the game solidly on the Paragon side of the fence. And you know what? I liked having my decisions informed by the fact that a particular squadmate was standing next to me. It's really the litmus test for romantic love, I think: your partner should make you want to be a better person. For that reason alone, Miranda deserves - needs - to be in ME3. Dropping her would be a disservice to the game.




*Seriously - it's ridiculous just how much I love this show. Watch it.

I became a HUGE fan of the show thanks to Yvonne Strahovski's great portrayal of Miranda,

But yes I am totally with you.  I definitely identified alot of Miranda in Sarah when I started watching Chuck.  Obviously they are not perfectly matched but close enough.  And just like you the Miranda character appealed to me emotionally and that was why I suddenly became interested in who it was who did the VA.

[icarus414]

jtav wrote...

I actually wouldn't mind if she died in ME3, as long as it wasn't cheap or contrived.

I'd bloody mind! Perhaps it's just me, but aren't you a little sick of the heroic sacrifices and bittersweet farewells that are going around like the flu these days? Doesn't Shepard (to say nothing of Miranda) deserve a happy ending? I mean, people die; I get that. I actively chose not to look up how to beat the collecters casualty-free until after I'd done the mission, and to accept any deaths without reloading to take a mulligan. And let me tell you, when those bugs carried off Garrus, it hurt. But... I dunno. Maybe I'm just a romantic. All I'm saying is, if your LI gets killed off in ME3 without there being some way to foresee and prevent it, I am not going to be a happy camper.

Valmy wrote...

I became a HUGE fan of the show thanks to Yvonne Strahovski's great portrayal of Miranda,

But yes I am totally with you.  I definitely identified alot of Miranda in Sarah when I started watching Chuck.  Obviously they are not perfectly matched but close enough.  And just like you the Miranda character appealed to me emotionally and that was why I suddenly became interested in who it was who did the VA.

I came in from the other side - I was a Chuck fan before I played ME2. I picked up ME1 at launch and loved it, but after seeing what executive meddling by the new bosses did to Dragon Age my enthusiasm for ME2 was pretty much killed. I didn't even realize there was any overlap until I fired it up for the first time and went "hey, she looks a hell of a lot like...".

Let me ask you this, did you start Chuck from the beginning? The similarities are a lot more obvious. And you really need to buy the DVDs (or Blu-Ray, if that's your preference), if you haven't. As great as the show is as a series of stand-alone episodes, it really comes to life when watched as a body.

But I digress. Ahem: MIRANDA 4 LIFE!

Modifié par icarus414, 16 avril 2010 - 11:21 .

[kraidy1117]

Kabraxal wrote...

I think the Tali fans feel threatened by the awesomeness that is our godess.

Miri is going to get eaten

[KingNu11]

kraidy1117 wrote...

Kabraxal wrote...

I think the Tali fans feel threatened by the awesomeness that is our godess.

Miri is going to get eaten

I know the results are tragic.

Modifié par KingNu11, 16 avril 2010 - 11:28 .

[Valmy]

icarus414 wrote...
Let me ask you this, did you start Chuck from the beginning? The similarities are a lot more obvious. And you really need to buy the DVDs (or Blu-Ray, if that's your preference), if you haven't. As great as the show is as a series of stand-alone episodes, it really comes to life when watched as a body.

Yep I went out and bought Chuck season 1 (which was actually rather impulsive of me as I normally would have netflix'd it first to check it out...good thing I liked it) and watched from 1.01-3.07 before picking it up during the original broadcasts at 3.08.  Watching it straight through like that was so much fun, especially as I knew absolutely nothing about what was going to happen.  It almost kind of stinks now that I have to wait a week between episodes...or three weeks as it is now.

[Valmy]

kraidy1117 wrote...
Miri is going to get eaten

Haters going to hate man.  Don't let it get you down.

[jtav]

I'm a sucker for the well-done sacrifice, actually. The trick is for it to seem natural and inevitable and not a source for cheap angst. I like it when a game rips my heart out and stomps on it. Then again, my "canon" playthrough will feature Miranda being responsible for Jacob's death during the suicide mission because I find the idea of her losing someone close to her because of overconfidence dramatically appealing.

OT: Anyone know if it's possible to fail Garrus' loyalty mission? I'd like him to die in my next playthrough, but I can't justify having Shep send him into the vents. One of the original crew isn't going to survive, but I'd rather keep Tali alive for the quarian/geth conflict possibilities.

[kraidy1117]

jtav wrote...

I'm a sucker for the well-done sacrifice, actually. The trick is for it to seem natural and inevitable and not a source for cheap angst. I like it when a game rips my heart out and stomps on it. Then again, my "canon" playthrough will feature Miranda being responsible for Jacob's death during the suicide mission because I find the idea of her losing someone close to her because of overconfidence dramatically appealing.
OT: Anyone know if it's possible to fail Garrus' loyalty mission? I'd like him to die in my next playthrough, but I can't justify having Shep send him into the vents. One of the original crew isn't going to survive, but I'd rather keep Tali alive for the quarian/geth conflict possibilities.

Nope you can't and why would you kill Garrus

[Valmy]

Vulgus Presencia wrote...

Tali is so close though five more votes and miranda lives to see another poll.

Hardly a glorious victory.  People are just voting for Miri and Tali because they are popular.

[jtav]

I don't like Garrus for reasons that are beyond the scope of this thread.



Darn. I was hoping I could refuse to let Garrus kill Sidonis and fail my Charm check. Oh, well. Nice knowing you, Tali.

[kraidy1117]

jtav wrote...

I don't like Garrus for reasons that are beyond the scope of this thread.

Darn. I was hoping I could refuse to let Garrus kill Sidonis and fail my Charm check. Oh, well. Nice knowing you, Tali.

You can only fail Tali, Samara and Thanes mission.

[Valmy]

runescapeguy9 wrote...
I doubt half the people even read the poll before voting for their favorite character anyways
(ps - hello, this is my first post here)

Hi Runescapeguy!  Thanks for stopping by.

Yeah you are probably right.

[Valmy]

jtav wrote...

I don't like Garrus for reasons that are beyond the scope of this thread.

His constant vigilantism and lust for vengeance?

[kraidy1117]

Valmy wrote...

jtav wrote...

I don't like Garrus for reasons that are beyond the scope of this thread.

His constant vigilantism and lust for vengeance?

Garrus is space batman.