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[jtav]

Oh, for the love of God, can we go one entire day on this forum without some thread or other devolving into an argument about which characters are coming back? At this rate, I'm not going to care whether Miranda returns. As long as the game is more coherent than KOTOR II, I'm pretty sure I'm going to enjoy it no matter who's in my party. Can we wait until we actually know something before arguing?



Sorry, lost it for a bit.

[kraidy1117]

jtav wrote...

Oh, for the love of God, can we go one entire day on this forum without some thread or other devolving into an argument about which characters are coming back? At this rate, I'm not going to care whether Miranda returns. As long as the game is more coherent than KOTOR II, I'm pretty sure I'm going to enjoy it no matter who's in my party. Can we wait until we actually know something before arguing?

Sorry, lost it for a bit.

It won't happen, ME fans say ME2 characters should get cameos, ME2 fans then argue and then it turns into a land slide.

Modifié par kraidy1117, 17 avril 2010 - 02:51 .

[MassAffected]

Don't read those threads?

[Vyndael]

Wait, wait. Tali? Really?

And yeah Kraidy, the beer group is hilarious

[jtav]

it didn't start out as one of them. When will I learn that any thread discussing an ME LI other than their support threads will eventually turn into a shouting match? At this point, I wouldn't blame Bioware for saying that every one gets a cameo. As long as Miranda is doing something interesting and the romance is acknowledged and treated positively, then I would be content, though not thrilled, with a Wrex-style cameo. My biggest fear for ME3 is that her entire life now revolves around Shepard, especially if she's sleeping with him. I like my morally ambiguous superspy, and I would rather have her role reduced than see her defanged.

[jtav]

Why so surprised, Vyn? I actually have very little in common with Miranda except for hair color and gender. We'd despise each other in real life.

Modifié par jtav, 17 avril 2010 - 03:10 .

[Vyndael]

Wrex's cameo was probably the best in ME2 but if they didn't bother to include more info about things like Akuze I don't know how they will handle it in ME3. I'm in the same boat as you regarding Miranda's role. She's different from the other LI's in that she's independent and doesn't rely on Shepard so much and I'd like her to stay that way.

[kraidy1117]

Vyndael wrote...

Wrex's cameo was probably the best in ME2 but if they didn't bother to include more info about things like Akuze I don't know how they will handle it in ME3. I'm in the same boat as you regarding Miranda's role. She's different from the other LI's in that she's independent and doesn't rely on Shepard so much and I'd like her to stay that way.

I want Wrex in my party

one of the only reasaons why I will suffer ME gameplay, just to have Wrex in my party

[Vyndael]

jtav wrote...

Why so surprised, Vyn? I actually have very little in common with Miranda except for hair color and gender. We'd despise each other in real life.

I don't know. I guess it was a little unexpected. Imo, you don't seem much like her.
@Kraidy: Yeah, Wrex was awesome. "If I die in here, I'll kill him" 

Modifié par Vyndael, 17 avril 2010 - 03:13 .

[kraidy1117]

Vyndael wrote...

jtav wrote...

Why so surprised, Vyn? I actually have very little in common with Miranda except for hair color and gender. We'd despise each other in real life.

I don't know. I guess it was a little unexpected. Imo, you don't seem much like her.
@Kraidy: Yeah, Wrex was awesome. "If I die in here, I'll kill him" 

"Don't ****** in my ear and tell me it's raining"

Steve Barr did such a fantastic job.

[Vyndael]

@Jtav: Oops, missed your edit. I have a lot in common with her and not just the physical traits like hair color. Probably why she is my favorite female character in the game.

@Kraidy: Well, the synthesizers helped too.

[kraidy1117]

Vyndael wrote...

@Jtav: Oops, missed your edit. I have a lot in common with her and not just the physical traits like hair color. Probably why she is my favorite female character in the game.
@Kraidy: Well, the synthesizers helped too.

Steve Barr in fact does have a very deep voice. All they did was add some gruffness to his voice to give it that Krogan sound.

[jtav]

If Miranda ever utters anything remotely resembling "I couldn't let you go" I'm going back through ME2 and kill her off. It's a kinder death. My Shep might say it, but Miranda would tell him to stop being a fool.

@Vyn: Tali and I are about the same age. If you think about it, she suffers a pretty horrible disability, though a completely different one from mine. We're both geeks.etc. I have a strange relationship with Miranda. I like her as a character, not a person. Probably explains the hell I put her through. And yet, I want to see her happy.

Modifié par jtav, 17 avril 2010 - 03:29 .

[kraidy1117]

jtav wrote...

If Miranda ever utters anything remotely resembling "I couldn't let you go" I'm going back through ME2 and kill her off. It's a kinder death. My Shep might say it, but Miranda would tell him to stop being a fool.
@Vyn: Tali and I are about the same age. If you think about it, she suffers a pretty horrible disability, though a completely different one from mine. We're both geeks.etc.

I exepect Miranda to say something that hints I love you. Not those words but something.

[Vyndael]

@Kraidy: I've never heard his voice outside of ME so I wouldn't know.

@Jtav: Haha! Here's hoping she doesn't say that then. I see your point about Tali. I was thinking more about her personality traits. Miranda is around twice my age and yet we're very similar. I found it a little weird when I first played it.

[jtav]

kraidy: I think she's already come close. "It's worth it."

Vyn: I was so thrilled to see an intelligent, complex, and independent female character that nothing else mattered. And the thing with her sister, *sniff*

[kraidy1117]

jtav wrote...

kraidy: I think she's already come close. "It's worth it."
Vyn: I was so thrilled to see an intelligent, complex, and independent female character that nothing else mattered. And the thing with her sister, *sniff*

Still lets say there is one choice where you sacerfice your self, I would expect to see a very emoitnal Miranda.

Modifié par kraidy1117, 17 avril 2010 - 03:35 .

[Valmy]

jtav wrote...

Am I the only one who's curious about why Miranda and Jacob broke up? I think he's still in love with her and that she cares for him in her own way. She wouldn't defy TIM for just anyone. I think he wanted more from her than she was willing to give, but it's just a theory. That, or Jacob Desperately Looking for a Purpose in Life bothered her.

I am not even sure they were together much less that they broke up.  It could have been a one night thing for all I know.

[Vyndael]

jtav wrote...
Vyn: I was so thrilled to see an intelligent, complex, and independent female character that nothing else mattered. And the thing with her sister, *sniff*

Aw...*passes tissue*

I did like the other LI's but Miranda stood out since she was the only one who could hold her own. Like Samara said, she doesn't share her burdens with anyone except when it came to Oriana. She is also the only female who didn't need to be saved in some way by Shepard.

[jtav]

Yeah, she pretty much had me hooked when she shot Wilson. I've always had a thing for competence. She's a really fun character to play with, even if I'm a bit schizo about her. I really want her to have a family ("Mommy's home," remember) and a happy ending, even as have her do horrible things.

[Vyndael]

I remember that scenario you came up with. Everyone should have a happy ending but I get the feeling that there's going to be another Virmire in ME3.

[fongiel24]

WARNING CHUCK SPOILERS









I see Miranda as kind of becoming a blank slate by the end of ME2. She's a diehard Cerberus loyalist at the beginning because she thinks Cerberus and its way of operating is the only way to protect humanity. Being a part of Shepherd's team for a few months (weeks?) makes her question that assumption. I'm not a big fan of drawing too many comparisons between Sarah Walker and Miranda character-wise, but Miranda at the end of ME2 is a lot like Sarah at the end of season 1. Both start out mission driven (Miranda as a Cerberus op, Sarah trying to clean up Bryce's mess) and meet a guy who changes their perceptions of the world. In Shepherd's case, being an open-ended character, Shepherd either shows her there's a way to make omelettes without breaking too many eggs (Paragon) or there's a way to get things done in a brutally direct fashion without resorting to all the sneaking about and shady operations that Cerberus specializes in (Renegade). I think there's a lot of room for character growth in ME3 for Miranda in either case and I would really like to see the idea of Miranda reinventing and rediscovering herself explored further.

[Valmy]

jtav wrote...

Vyn: I was so thrilled to see an intelligent, complex, and independent female character that nothing else mattered. And the thing with her sister, *sniff*

And she will remain a total badass I don't think there is any question.  If she does have any soft and squishy moments it will be in private just like before.

[jtav]

Good night all. I shall attempt to harness my fluffy side and have happy Miranda dreams

[kraidy1117]

Well guys, Miri won't be getting eaten afterall ^ ^