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Which one?


The Kelly title :wub:

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Thought so. I needed to make the titles stand in line with those on standard Vanity Fair covers, more social interest ect. Not the political intense stuff of the two Times titles I did.

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Breakdown Boy wrote...

Thought so. I needed to make the titles stand in line with those on standard Vanity Fair covers, more social interest ect. Not the political intense stuff of the two Times titles I did.


LOL I still remember when people complained they could see her ****** <_<

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Breakdown Boy wrote...

Thought so. I needed to make the titles stand in line with those on standard Vanity Fair covers, more social interest ect. Not the political intense stuff of the two Times titles I did.


LOL I still remember when people complained they could see her ****** <_<


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Breakdown Boy wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

Breakdown Boy wrote...

Thought so. I needed to make the titles stand in line with those on standard Vanity Fair covers, more social interest ect. Not the political intense stuff of the two Times titles I did.


LOL I still remember when people complained they could see her ****** <_<


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Not going to say it here, just google it. Some people got mad, but they got laughed at :lol:

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It wasn't a joke. Jack accused her of it, and Miranda got pissed. I did have her saying later that she'd seduced people for information. Removed it due to outrage. Wish I'd kept it. I happen think it's true, even if that makes me unpopular.
But she earned her spot w/ Cerberus.

I happen to agree. She says of herself her looks - among other things - were made to give her an edge, which is why I said in the "Miranda Manifesto" that she fully appreciates her own physical superiority. It would only be consequent to use it to the fullest extent in covert operations. Having said that, using a woman's wiles does not necessarily mean sleeping with someone. I guess that rarely happened, but it did happen if you ask me. I don't know why anyone would be outraged by that suggestion.

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jtav wrote...
It wasn't a joke. Jack accused her of it, and Miranda got pissed. I did have her saying later that she'd seduced people for information. Removed it due to outrage. Wish I'd kept it. I happen think it's true, even if that makes me unpopular.
But she earned her spot w/ Cerberus.

I happen to agree. She says of herself her looks - among other things - were made to give her an edge, which is why I said in the "Miranda Manifesto" that she fully appreciates her own physical superiority. It would only be consequent to use it to the fullest extent in covert operations. Having said that, using a woman's wiles does not necessarily mean sleeping with someone. I guess that rarely happened, but it did happen if you ask me. I don't know why anyone would be outraged by that suggestion.



I don't think Miri takes sex causaly, just how she acted towards Shepard.

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Actually, I'm on a renegade play-through, and I romanced her without getting her to quit Cerberus :P


I'm on a renegade playthrough, and I'm intending to romance someone else but...  Man.  Miri is under Shepard's skin again.

Yeah...I had that intention for two games in a row. It never works out.

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I..errr...understand now...Image IPB

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I..errr...understand now...Image IPB


LOL now you understand why I could not tell you here, but Miri having one got some some people mad, why I don't know.........

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I haven't really noticed it, there aren't a lot if full length shots of Miranda in the game.



Anyway, Kraidy which province of Canada do you live in? My dad works as GP (doctor) in Saskatchewan (spelling) in a small town called Le Ronge. I've been there three times over since 2001 and I love the place (Canada not Le Ronge so much), me and my wife are going up in August and will be doing a roadtrip from Edmonton to Vancover with my parents.

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I want a happy ending, but I want some major obstacles first. Like I said, my first instinct is to initially separate them because she's on the run from Cerberus, but I don't think that's a popular idea.

"Initially", no, that's not popular. Also, being with Shepard is about the best protection against Cerberus you can imagine, so why leave.
But a time of absence would be very much OK. It did enhance the characters' profiles in BG2. Say that at some time in ME3, you are on a mission to take out TIM. You're successful, but Miranda stays to bring Cerberus resources to the the fight against the Reapers. She then returns a short time before the final battle, or even directly into the final battle, with a piece of critical information. If you have some choice about when to do the initial mission, you could make her be absent a longer or shorter time. For a conflict, let's say that the more time you give her, i.e. the more missions you do without her, the more resources she will bring in at the end.

No idea how to tweak this for a pro-Cerberus Shepard, though.

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kraidy1117 wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

jtav wrote...
It wasn't a joke. Jack accused her of it, and Miranda got pissed. I did have her saying later that she'd seduced people for information. Removed it due to outrage. Wish I'd kept it. I happen think it's true, even if that makes me unpopular.
But she earned her spot w/ Cerberus.

I happen to agree. She says of herself her looks - among other things - were made to give her an edge, which is why I said in the "Miranda Manifesto" that she fully appreciates her own physical superiority. It would only be consequent to use it to the fullest extent in covert operations. Having said that, using a woman's wiles does not necessarily mean sleeping with someone. I guess that rarely happened, but it did happen if you ask me. I don't know why anyone would be outraged by that suggestion.

I don't think Miri takes sex causaly, just how she acted towards Shepard.

The problem there was that in this case sex was coupled with emotional entanglement, and she doesn't take *that* casually. I think she's a bit less serious about sex as such. No, I don't think she takes it exactly casually, but she's capable of using it to gain what she wants if necessary. Hey, it may even be fun while it lasts - the deception gives it an added thrill.

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Breakdown Boy wrote...

Thought so. I needed to make the titles stand in line with those on standard Vanity Fair covers, more social interest ect. Not the political intense stuff of the two Times titles I did.

You did two Times titles? Where's the other one?

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I haven't really noticed it, there aren't a lot if full length shots of Miranda in the game.

Want some?

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Am I the only one who thinks that Miranda is funnier than she gives herself credit for? Her sense of humor is rather dry and sarcastic, but it's there. "We're all counting on you to do the impossible. No pressure."And of course, she teases and flirts during the romance Maybe I'm biased because my sense of humor is rather bitter, but I don't think she's quite as humorless as she makes herself out to be.


miranda is quite funny - quite a lot of her comments are teasing/humourous, and if - as shep - you take a few of the renegade options during romance you can tease her back - the dialogue is quite excellent and fleshes out your relationship quite nicely.

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Jebel Krong wrote...

jtav wrote...

Am I the only one who thinks that Miranda is funnier than she gives herself credit for? Her sense of humor is rather dry and sarcastic, but it's there. "We're all counting on you to do the impossible. No pressure."And of course, she teases and flirts during the romance Maybe I'm biased because my sense of humor is rather bitter, but I don't think she's quite as humorless as she makes herself out to be.


miranda is quite funny - quite a lot of her comments are teasing/humourous, and if - as shep - you take a few of the renegade options during romance you can tease her back - the dialogue is quite excellent and fleshes out your relationship quite nicely.


I agree, the banter between them is great.

I love the new SMG from the Kasumi DLC, it is AWSOME!!!!!! I actually think Kasumi should have been there from the get go!

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the locust is excellent - i'm doing a playthrough now just to utilise kasumi as much as possible, with an infiltrator, it really complements the class superbly (unlike the other SMGs). i was beginning to think i was pretty much alone in continuing to play me2, nice to see someone else is still going, BB.

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Jebel Krong wrote...

the locust is excellent - i'm doing a playthrough now just to utilise kasumi as much as possible, with an infiltrator, it really complements the class superbly (unlike the other SMGs). i was beginning to think i was pretty much alone in continuing to play me2, nice to see someone else is still going, BB.


I got 2 playthroughs left to finish, one I had been saving in particular for Kasumi as it is my 'Woman Power' playthrough where only the ladies are going to survive (femshep as well), going to shove some earplugs and close my eyes for the initial cut-scene when going through the relay though as going to have her LI Jacob.... before sending him to vent off some steam :devil::lol:

One of the interesting things of that playthrough is that it means Shep will have cheated on an ME LI, so be interesting to see how they handle it if the ME2 LI is dead :wizard:

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Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien wrote...

Jebel Krong wrote...

the locust is excellent - i'm doing a playthrough now just to utilise kasumi as much as possible, with an infiltrator, it really complements the class superbly (unlike the other SMGs). i was beginning to think i was pretty much alone in continuing to play me2, nice to see someone else is still going, BB.


I got 2 playthroughs left to finish, one I had been saving in particular for Kasumi as it is my 'Woman Power' playthrough where only the ladies are going to survive (femshep as well), going to shove some earplugs and close my eyes for the initial cut-scene when going through the relay though as going to have her LI Jacob.... before sending him to vent off some steam :devil::lol:

One of the interesting things of that playthrough is that it means Shep will have cheated on an ME LI, so be interesting to see how they handle it if the ME2 LI is dead :wizard:


Interesting idea! Image IPB I am playing through as a Sentinal and the locust is awsome!

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hmm i always romanced someone, and always romanced miranda in me2, so i'll guess we'll see how it affects me3, though i'm not expecting fireworks, the way it generally ended between ash and shep on horizon. doesn't bother me though one way or another - miranda's it for the series, now.



i must admit i don't do the "one way or another" playthroughs, i just play naturally and try different things each time, till i find my "perfect" choices.

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It's not easy to do random stuff as you might not have enough paragon/ renegade points to qwell the tensions between your sqaud mates (Jack/ Miranda & Legion/ Tali). But then again, none of them will die if you have all the upgrades and choose Legion/ Tali (tech specialist), Garrus (leader) and Samara (biotic specialist) in the suicide mission, also send Mordin back with survivors.



I don't like Shepard as a mostly or complete renegade, he becomes kind of an ass and a jerk!

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Jebel Krong wrote...
the locust is excellent - i'm doing a playthrough now just to utilise kasumi as much as possible, with an infiltrator, it really complements the class superbly (unlike the other SMGs). i was beginning to think i was pretty much alone in continuing to play me2, nice to see someone else is still going, BB.

I just finished my fourth playthrough, and have now finished two maleShep and my two main femSheps, an Engineer and an Infiltrator - and yes, the Locust is a very nice addition to an Infiltrator's arsenal. My fifth playthrough, with my main "keep-the-base" maleShep, is still waiting to be finished, I can't motivate myself to play the Collector base yet again. As nice as the final battle is orchestrated, it gets old faster than the other parts of the game.

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One of the interesting things of that playthrough is that it means Shep will have cheated on an ME LI, so be interesting to see how they handle it if the ME2 LI is dead.

I wish people would stop speaking of "cheating". You break up with the old LI for a new one, that's not usually called "cheating". I certainly have no intention for Miranda to be the paramour the achievement title suggests. She's the first and only one. Anything else is in the past.

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It's not easy to do random stuff as you might not have enough paragon/ renegade points to qwell the tensions between your sqaud mates.

In my latest playthough I have managed to have both choices enabled for all but two situations, and the choice I wished to make for one of those - the Tali/Legion conflict. Here are a few rules to follow if you want that. I assume that you have imported a character with the highest possible P/R bonus from ME1. This won't work for ME2 only characters or with NG+, only with regular ME1 imports with at least 60% of the lower of the P/R scales filled at the end of ME1:

(1) Do missions with Paragon/Renegade choices early, missions without them late.
(1a) Do missions with high P/R requirements before those with low ones, if at all possible. Because the high requirements are easy to reach early in the game, but impossible to reach late in the game, while the ones with low requirements only get moderately difficult as the game progresses.
(2) Don't do any sidequests, if at all possible, before you have finished all character quests but Legion's. Rule 1 takes precedence, though, so if you want to help the asari on the Citadel to leave by persuading the customs officer, do that early. (That means, do all sidequests, if possible, between the last loyalty mission and Reaper IFF)
(3) Develop your class talent fully and early, and choose the specialization that gives a higher Paragon/Renegade bonus (usually one is 70%, the other 100%).
(4) Try to maintain an almost balanced account of Paragon/Renegade points, as much as you can without violating your character concept, until you have reached 75% in both.
(5) Use all interrupts, as long as they don't violate your character concept overmuch (In some cases, regular conversation options give the same P/R bonus if you don't use the interrupt - so you can have the best of both worlds there).

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