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[Ieldra]

@fongiel24:

I agree with most of your points and the arguments for the decision on Noveria. Which is why I said I can see it going both ways. But I don't see the moral angle so much. For me it's more a matter of empathy. In the end I see scientific curiosity and empathy overrule the other concerns and letting her keep the Rachni queen alive.



As for Garrus: I agree with you - Garrus is something of a nonentity in my ME1 games. I simply forgot him.

[Jebel Krong]

i see scientific curiosity, but not morality or empathy. at the end of the day, afetr talking to the queen you can either take her word for it, or not. history is what it is, given the state of the galaxy and more pressing concerns, that might very well have influenced said history, it becomes a simple choice.

garrus was a non-entity in me1, in #2 he's great (apart from almost no conversations once he's recruited), because he has flaws and character by then. miranda would have shot saleon or let garrus do it, no question.

Modifié par Jebel Krong, 29 avril 2010 - 09:59 .

[fongiel24]

Okay new one... I've been doing some writing about Shepherd's thinking and motivations behind the Ruthless background.



Given the Ruthless situation of a Batarian base dug in deep with no way to get to them except send men into the teeth of enemy defences to their deaths, would Miranda have done the same? If not, would she understand a Ruthless Shepherd's rationale for doing so?

[Jebel Krong]

^^ assuming no other tactical options readily available, yes.







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[Ieldra]

fongiel24 wrote...
Given the Ruthless situation of a Batarian base dug in deep with no way to get to them except send men into the teeth of enemy defences to their deaths, would Miranda have done the same? If not, would she understand a Ruthless Shepherd's rationale for doing so?

The decision depends on the situation, the priorities of the objectives and on the skills of the participants, so it's impossible to answer this with a simple yes or no:

Miranda would, as a rule, prefer an infiltration prior to the attack to reduce the estimated casualty rate, and she has the skills to do such a thing. She would also prefer sabotage to direct attack and would not hesitate to use things like chemical or biological agents to disable the base. So, if it was possible to avoid or delay a frontal attack and still somehow succeed in securing the base, then she would have done so. If the only alternative to a frontal attack would have been to do nothing and let the enemy stay, then it depends on her orders or, in absence of any, the perceived priority of her objectives whether or not she would have ordered the attack. But if she'd considered it necessary, then the estimated high casualty rate would not have prevented her from ordering it.

And of course she would understand a Ruthless Shepard's rationale.

But here's the catch: Miranda is not military. She's intelligence. So it's unlikely she would have found herself in command of a unit of regular soldiers in the first place.

[Ieldra]

This thread needs another Miranda picture (and I need a vacation):



This is one of my favorites from Strikor's collection.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 29 avril 2010 - 12:54 .

[Jebel Krong]

i need a new job... <_<

Modifié par Jebel Krong, 29 avril 2010 - 01:11 .

[jtav]

Morning all.

I suck at this whole speed run thing. Have decided to do Mordin's mission too since he and it are a big part of the story. Well, that and I love Mordin.

[Jebel Krong]

mordin is the best character in the game. miranda and legion being close behind.

[Ieldra]

Jebel Krong wrote...
mordin is the best character in the game. miranda and legion being close behind.

Miranda is the best character in the game, with Legion and Mordin close behind.

[Andysilv]

Ieldra2 wrote...

Jebel Krong wrote...
mordin is the best character in the game. miranda and legion being close behind.

Miranda is the best character in the game, with Legion and Mordin close behind.

Miranda is the best character in the game, with Ashley and Mordin close behind. Although Ash wasn't so great in this game I know, but overall.

[jtav]

I'm going to have to go w/ Mordin just because I love G&S so much. Though I love them in such completely different ways, it's a virtual tie

I wish we'd seen more interaction between Miranda and Mordin. They'd be great friends.

[Ieldra]

jtav wrote...
I'm going to have to go w/ Mordin just because I love G&S so much.

I tend to dislike cross-world references quite a lot (for world consistency and suspension of disbelief - see my other major criticisms of the ME universe, they all go into this direction). I've never understood why people tend to find these things inherently funny. Mostly they're annoying. Even more annoying is that I don't know what G&S are, even though it helps to forget the fact it's a cross-world reference.

If anything, for me this would be a reason to dislike Mordin. But he's too interesting for that. Still behind Miranda and Legion, though.

I wish we'd seen more interaction between Miranda and Mordin. They'd be great friends.

Great friends? They do have a surprisingly similar outlook, but they're very different in personality. I can see it going both ways. Miranda may find Mordin's behaviour (to some degree, salarian behaviour in general) irritating.

[Strikor2115]

I re-sized her eyes, and mounth.

I removed some hair to see her left shoulder. Any better?

[Ieldra]

Strikor2115 wrote...

I re-sized her eyes, and mounth.
I removed some hair to see her left shoulder. Any better?

Her face is better. That you can see both shoulders also gives a better overall impression. I like it.
But there seems to be still something wrong with the position of her head. I thinks it's too low, so she looks a bit squat from the chest up. Either that, or her head is too big. Compare the proportions with your picture I quoted above.
The body proportions are very good, though. Very natural.

(I hope you don't mind my continued criticism. It's an impression, I don't discount the possibility I might be wrong.)

Modifié par Ieldra2, 29 avril 2010 - 02:40 .

[jtav]

Ieldra, Gilbert & Sullivan. Authors of Pirates of Penzance, which is where the original version of Mordin's song comes from. Suffice it to say, I'm very glad both they and Shakespeare survived to the 22nd century.

[Jebel Krong]

jtav wrote...

Ieldra, Gilbert & Sullivan. Authors of Pirates of Penzance, which is where the original version of Mordin's song comes from. Suffice it to say, I'm very glad both they and Shakespeare survived to the 22nd century.

ugh. shakespeare is only good in klingon.... i'm with Ieldra here: cross-worlds references tend to spoil the immersion. Mordin's G&S rendition worked more than most, purely because it was unexpected and totally cool, and also added a different facet to his already-complex character.

Legion is great because they geth are so different. and they have maintained that, and most of their mystique, despite his party-member status in me2.

Miranda is by far and away the best and most realistic love interest, as well as an interesting character, so she's got both aspects going for her (plus being stunning).

Modifié par Jebel Krong, 29 avril 2010 - 02:54 .

[Ieldra]

jtav wrote...

Ieldra, Gilbert & Sullivan. Authors of Pirates of Penzance, which is where the original version of Mordin's song comes from. Suffice it to say, I'm very glad both they and Shakespeare survived to the 22nd century.

Thanks for the info. I just looked it up. Strange I never heard of them before, since some of their works seem to be classics. That, of course, mitigates my criticism since it makes it likely people would still know of them in 2185.

BTW, is it just me or does this forum software sometimes lose words. I seem to make a lot more omission mistakes here than anywhere else.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 29 avril 2010 - 03:59 .

[Ieldra]

Jebel Krong wrote...
Miranda is by far and away the best and most realistic love interest, as well as an interesting character, so she's got both aspects going for her (plus being stunning).

I think that sums it up nicely.

Miranda approves...

[jtav]

She looks stunning in that shot.



Re: cultural references. I generally assume anything from before the 20th century that hasn't passed into obscurity is still somewhat well-known. Shakespeare and Gilbert and Sullivan are still performed. Jane Eyre is probably still assigned in high school. Your average Earthling will recognize Michelangelo's David. Film and TV is a bit dodgier because they're so new, but I prefer to believe films like Citizen Kane and the Wizard of Oz have survived. And there will always be hobbyists. Miranda loves Nielsen, so its not a stretch for her to know a lot about classical music in general.

[Valmy]

Hmmmm do 20th century composers still count as classical music?

[Throw_this_away]

does anyone have the full video of Yvonne Strahovski attack of the show? (the one where the interviewer is supposedly creepy). I have only found the edited version that only talks a bit about ME2. The full versions appear to be locked out (I assume by her promoters).

Edit: nevermind.  I found it posted on facebook.  

Modifié par Throw_this_away, 29 avril 2010 - 06:01 .

[Throw_this_away]

Throw_this_away wrote...

does anyone have the full video of Yvonne Strahovski attack of the show? (the one where the interviewer is supposedly creepy). I have only found the edited version that only talks a bit about ME2. The full versions appear to be locked out (I assume by her promoters).

Edit: nevermind.  I found it posted on facebook.  

Meh... that guy was pretty lame and disrespectful IMHO.  At least Yvonne kept her cool and kept it light. 

[jtav]

I think some are considered to fall under the umbrella, Valmy. Nielsen's found in the classical section of the music store.

[Nightwriter]

Throw_this_away wrote...

Throw_this_away wrote...

does anyone have the full video of Yvonne Strahovski attack of the show? (the one where the interviewer is supposedly creepy). I have only found the edited version that only talks a bit about ME2. The full versions appear to be locked out (I assume by her promoters).

Edit: nevermind.  I found it posted on facebook.  

Meh... that guy was pretty lame and disrespectful IMHO.  At least Yvonne kept her cool and kept it light. 

I've heard of this. Out of curiosity, what about this guy made him creepy? What did he say?