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[Valmy]

andysilv87 wrote...
It's still gut-wrenching though when you know the other way that scene can end. 

Yeah I probably couldn't do it.  I even had a hard time being hard on Mordin for the Genophage.

[Zack_Nero]

Well, there is no person like Miranda, everyone gots to agree with that.

[jtav]

I'm a ruthless monster so you don't have to be.



Now, if Thanes loyalty mission would trigger so I can start the romancw already. *grumbles*

[Valmy]

jtav wrote...

I'm a ruthless monster so you don't have to be.

Eh I am a total wuss when it comes to Bioware games.  I can never be mean to the characters.

[Jebel Krong]

Valmy wrote...

andysilv87 wrote...
It's still gut-wrenching though when you know the other way that scene can end. 

Yeah I probably couldn't do it.  I even had a hard time being hard on Mordin for the Genophage.

meh i agreed with him - he did the right thing, imo. there are 2 things you can do after making one mistake (upraising the krogan too early): repeat it again or try and fix it. at least they took responsibility and tried #2.

Modifié par Jebel Krong, 30 avril 2010 - 03:36 .

[Valmy]

Jebel Krong wrote...
meh i agreed with him - he did the right thing, imo. there are 2 things you can do after making one mistake (upraising the krogan too early): repeat it again or try and fix it. at least they took responsibility and tried #2.

I certainly was not unsympathetic.  At first I thought the Genophage was this horrible thing until Mordin noted the Krogan population was still increasing just at lower levels...which sorta contradicted what Wrex had said which made it sound like the Krogan were dying.

[MrNose]

jtav wrote...

Just finished replaying Miranda's loyalty mission. The Renegade path is painful. I just want to give her a hug and tell her everything will be okay and she doesn't have to isolate herself from the people she loves.

I played that whole thing renegade until the end, but then I had to go Paragon with the sister thing.  I saw no reason to deny someone some harmless happiness just for some points, even if it's a digital someone.

[jtav]

I, unfortunately, needed to see the Renegade version. Just like I'm about to destroy the geneophage cure and kill Maleon so I can see that scene.

[trucoolbrees]

Valmy wrote...

Jebel Krong wrote...
meh i agreed with him - he did the right thing, imo. there are 2 things you can do after making one mistake (upraising the krogan too early): repeat it again or try and fix it. at least they took responsibility and tried #2.

I certainly was not unsympathetic.  At first I thought the Genophage was this horrible thing until Mordin noted the Krogan population was still increasing just at lower levels...which sorta contradicted what Wrex had said which made it sound like the Krogan were dying.

It's seems as if Krogan Reproduce at a fast rate, so to a Krogan it may have seemed like they were dying out.

[Ieldra]

Zack_Nero wrote...
Well, there is no person like Miranda, everyone gots to agree with that.

Plenty of people don't, seeing how she's received by many on this forum. Heh - see a woman who's competent, beautiful, and - *gasp* - has a different opinion and sticks to it; some people can't take that.

[jtav]

To be fair, there are reasons to dislike her. Why so many haters go straight for the misogynistic crap I will never know.

I'm still not sure what to call my feelings toward her, but I'm the thread's devil's advocate.

[Valmy]

jtav wrote...

To be fair, there are reasons to dislike her. Why so many haters go straight for the misogynistic crap I will never know.

Because of some things said in the game I presume.  The 'cheerleader' thing and the hypocritically humorous line delivered by the Asari in her loyalty mission

[kraidy1117]

*yawns* good morning everyone. How is the lovely Miri doing?

[trucoolbrees]

kraidy1117 wrote...

*yawns* good morning everyone. How is the lovely Miri doing?

Just as passionate, straightforward, and beautiful as ever

[kraidy1117]

trucoolbrees wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

*yawns* good morning everyone. How is the lovely Miri doing?

Just as passionate, straightforward, and beautiful as ever

:wizard::wub:

[jtav]

She's a bit cross with me over what I'm doing to her. As usual.

[kraidy1117]

jtav wrote...

She's a bit cross with me over what I'm doing to her. As usual.

new argument Jtav?

[jtav]

Just doing a Paragade runthrough for fic research. Then I'll be pairing her with the local terminally ill assassin. Thinking about doing another "Miranda was responsible for Akuze" story. I'm not happy with the first one. I could have done better.



The usual.

[TheSixthghoul]

I wonder, has anyone considered me 3 will be like Awakening? As in everything you've done in the past up until now is locked and no longer the focus.

[kraidy1117]

Don't say that, if Bioware poulls that crap with ME3 they won't get my money.

[Collider]

Yea pretty much...not worth buying if my favorite characters don't come back.

[fongiel24]

MrNose wrote...

jtav wrote...

Just finished replaying Miranda's loyalty mission. The Renegade path is painful. I just want to give her a hug and tell her everything will be okay and she doesn't have to isolate herself from the people she loves.

I played that whole thing renegade until the end, but then I had to go Paragon with the sister thing.  I saw no reason to deny someone some harmless happiness just for some points, even if it's a digital someone.

It's tough denying Miranda contact with her sister, but from an RP perspective it can be justified, even if you're doing a renegade Shepherd. Miranda just popping out of nowhere to say, "Hey! I'm your sister who's been watching you for the past 19 years, wanna chat?" might be a bit jarring for some people. It ended well in ME2, but it could just as easily have ended badly.

Having Miranda directly contact her sister could also be dangerous for them both if someone recognizes her, such as someone with a past grudge or who just sees it as an opportunity to take advantage of a highly placed Cerberus agent.

From a personal standpoint, up to this point of the game, Miranda has not been the most open character. Shepherd, particularly if s/he is a bit emotionally distant too, might not feel comfortable pushing Miranda.

With that in mind, I've never denied Miranda so I guess I'm a bit of a hypocrite.

Modifié par fongiel24, 30 avril 2010 - 06:35 .

[Jebel Krong]

fongiel24 wrote...

It's tough denying Miranda contact with her sister, but from an RP perspective it can be justified, even if you're doing a renegade Shepherd. Miranda just popping out of nowhere to say, "Hey! I'm your sister who's been watching you for the past 19 years, wanna chat?" might be a bit jarring for some people. It ended well in ME2, but it could just as easily have ended badly.

Having Miranda directly contact her sister could also be dangerous for them both if someone recognizes her, such as someone with a past grudge or who just sees it as an opportunity to take advantage of a highly placed Cerberus agent.

From a personal standpoint, up to this point of the game, Miranda has not been the most open character. Shepherd, particularly if s/he is a bit emotionally distant too, might not feel comfortable pushing Miranda.

With that in mind, I've never denied Miranda so I guess I'm a bit of a hypocrite.

Nope that's pretty valid reasoning, I agree, not that I have done it either, and I play naturally renegade...

Modifié par Jebel Krong, 30 avril 2010 - 07:11 .

[Collider]

I did go on Miranda's loyalty mission for Miranda. At first Shepard asked "Why why don't you go and talk to her," and Miranda says she doesn't want to interfere in her sister's life (roughly). So I just went with that and left. Not out of any malice or anything.

[Ieldra]

fongiel24 wrote...
It's tough denying Miranda contact with her sister, but from an RP perspective it can be justified, even if you're doing a renegade Shepherd. Miranda just popping out of nowhere to say, "Hey! I'm your sister who's been watching you for the past 19 years, wanna chat?" might be a bit jarring for some people. It ended well in ME2, but it could just as easily have ended badly.

Having Miranda directly contact her sister could also be dangerous for them both if someone recognizes her, such as someone with a past grudge or who just sees it as an opportunity to take advantage of a highly placed Cerberus agent.

From a personal standpoint, up to this point of the game, Miranda has not been the most open character. Shepherd, particularly if s/he is a bit emotionally distant too, might not feel comfortable pushing Miranda.

With that in mind, I've never denied Miranda so I guess I'm a bit of a hypocrite.

I thought that way, too - maybe it is for the best to just go because of the possible danger.

But I get the feeling that Miranda is denying herself here for more than the security risk, that she's somehow a bit afraid of making personal contact with her sister, to forge an emotional bond. It's the only one she's left at that point, and I'd need better evidence of the dangers before I'd deny her that.

I think this is a well-made dialogue choice: both can be justified with your typical Paragon or Renegade reasoning without any of the available choices seeming in any way wrong.