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[Jebel Krong]

sounds like far too much hard work, Ieldra.

[Ieldra]

Jebel Krong wrote...
sounds like far too much hard work, Ieldra.

Not if you're familiar with the system and have a nice software tool that automatically adds it all up, including influences of one trait on the other. Also, it seems I have a knack for memorizing rules systems, be it in math or in games.

As for Miranda, making this stuff up helps me to get her personality and skills together in one place. If I go into the details. Which I usually do.

[Ieldra]

I'm in the process of collecting information about Miranda from the earlier parts of this thread. I must say, the information density has increased quite a lot since then - there's more Chuck than Miranda on the first 50 pages. But some nice quoteable lines, too. Like this one:

jtav wrote...
Twenty minutes into ME2 and Miranda ate my brain.

The debate about the engine room scene, btw, goes back to the old thread.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 06 mai 2010 - 11:49 .

[Ieldra]

And another quote from the oldest parts of this thread. I really can't remember writing this:

Ieldra2 wrote...
Miranda has something of a singularity: once you're caught, there is no escape.

I also realized I've had a Miranda desktop for two months now....

Modifié par Ieldra2, 06 mai 2010 - 12:09 .

[t3HPrO]

Gotta...sleep...42...or 3...hours without sleep...urgh Mass Effect 2+school projects+forum=epic sleeplessness.Bye lads...gonna dream of Miranda and Ashley in my cabin...d'oh.*THUD*

[t3HPrO]

Gonna sleep...no sleep for last...20+ hours...school projects+Mass Effect 2+forum=epic fail for redbull and coffee...bye lads...gonna dream of...Miranda and Ashley alone in my cabin with me...urgh.*THUD*

[t3HPrO]

Uh...wha...I double posted..?Sorry.Gotta sleep...NAO.

[Ieldra]

t3HPrO wrote...
Uh...wha...I double posted..?Sorry.Gotta sleep...NAO.

.....destroy the universe...later.

[Valmy]

Nightwriter wrote...

Ah, I simply disagree. That scene was hurting for dialogue - the fact that it was the ONLY romance scene without dialogue made it stand out even more as the "simply sexual" romance.

In a romance that I'd just like to see more depth out of, I would've liked something to be said. It already was in danger of feeling fling-y. Also: dialogue didn't kill the romantic mood in the ME1 scenes.

It wasn't in danger of being fling-y at all.  Do you blab on constantly in your intimate moments?  All that needed to be said had already been said.  If there was anything fling-y about it, you made it up because it sure wasn't present anywhere in the dialog or the actions of the characters.

Please point out the dialog once the physical encounter started in the ME1 scene.  Oh wait there was none.  I guess that scene was a fling also.

Modifié par Valmy, 06 mai 2010 - 01:18 .

[Valmy]

Nightwriter wrote...
What do you mean? How was it strong?

The three conversations before it which built up an emotional connection and expressed the fear she felt for having feelings for somebody when their lives were in danger.

[Valmy]

antilles333 wrote...

SARAH(MIRANDA)JUST TOLD CHUCK THE TRUTH FINALLy!

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!

The tears I cry are manly tears of joy!

Ah you must be watching Episode 3.13

[Valmy]

Nightwriter wrote...
... Since I feel quite surprised that you and others would say such a thing, I feel it's probably apparent that I didn't get the same impression.

I by no means felt like the whole romance was over and done with before the suicide mission, or that we'd said everything there was to say, or that all the build up there could ever be had already happened and there was no point having a single extra line of dialogue. 

The romance progression felt pretty normal to me - so it stuck out when there was no dialogue.

Yeah I didn't get that at all.

But I do think it is just a bit ridiculous to then take that one issue and then come up with a baseless and absurd claim that means it was all about sex or that is was a fling.  I would think a claim like that would require evidence from a conversation supporting it, not a guess based on the fact you wanted more conversation at one point.

Modifié par Valmy, 06 mai 2010 - 01:17 .

[Valmy]

Nightwriter wrote...
And that's a good interpretation, I respect that. I guess that, for me personally, I didn't feel any overwhelming buildup of tension - tension buildup happens for me during the pre-sex dialogue. Does that make sense?

The last conversations were supposed to supply that.  I guess it would have worked out for you better if that conversation had happened right before the sex scene instead, that would probably be better pacing.  I said that earlier in the thread actually, that it just felt silly to reach the point of intimacy and then wait until the last mission.

So there was pre-sex dialog just not immediately pre-sex.  What I do not see is how this magically means it was all about sex and fling-y when that directly contradicts everything said in the romance.  Still waiting for some actual evidence for that claim.

[Valmy]

Nightwriter wrote...
No, you both will. You're gems, boys. Gems. You're Bigfoot, trust me. Bigfoot gems.

Valmy I dunno what wonderful fetish-liberated world you're living in but I've never visited it. How's the weather there?

Um...everybody has fetishes but everybody does not the exact same one

[Ieldra]

Here's an absolute classic posted by ComTrav about 2 months ago. It
deserves reposting:

ComTrav wrote...

Am I dead? Is this heaven? ...shouldn't there be 71 more of you?

[Andysilv]

Ieldra2 wrote...

Here's an absolute classic posted by ComTrav about 2 months ago. It
deserves reposting:

ComTrav wrote...

Am I dead? Is this heaven? ...shouldn't there be 71 more of you?

Haha, I remember that. *feels old*

[ComTrav]

Ieldra2 wrote...

Here's an absolute classic posted by ComTrav about 2 months ago. It
deserves reposting:

ComTrav wrote...

Am I dead? Is this heaven? ...shouldn't there be 71 more of you?

lololol

....trying to remember if this is what started the "Is Miranda a virgin?" discussion. (Was almost afraid to post this because I was pretty much in the "she is almost certainly not a virgin" camp. Oh, yeah, and it's pretty un-PC.)

Modifié par ComTrav, 06 mai 2010 - 01:46 .

[Ieldra]

ComTrav wrote...
....trying to remember if this is what started the "Is Miranda a virgin?" discussion. (Was almost afraid to post this because I was pretty much in the "she is almost certainly not a virgin" camp. Oh, yeah, and it's pretty un-PC.)

Yes, I'm just going over that discussion. There isn't any power in the argument that she is  a virgin. During that discussion she was also referred to as a "badass angel". I really like that. It deserves to be remembered. (Ugh. finished going over the first 100 pages. This is work, people).

And btw, I also read you promised us a fanfic. IIRC, that never appeared? Or did I miss it?

Modifié par Ieldra2, 06 mai 2010 - 01:58 .

[ComTrav]

Remember in the early age of the thread when people would post music videos of songs that reminded them of the Miranda/Shepard relationship?







It just occurred to me how much Kazem el Saher looks like VanderShep, at least in this video.



And I'm sure there's no argument here that Miranda is a "flower, a basil, a ruby, a Sultana, a famous, and the legitimate queen among all queens."



(Further: Arabian Nights themed RPG is at the top of my list of about ten-games I'd like Bioware or someone to make.)

[ComTrav]

Ieldra2 wrote....

And btw, I also read you promised us a fanfic. IIRC, that never appeared? Or did I miss it?

I'm actually working on it now, lol. I wanted to read more of other fanfic to see if I was doing certain things proper to the genre (especially re: biotics), but I decided I should just write the thing while it's in my mind again. Ialso had to think a little bit about Trevor Shepard, role-playing Travis Shepard is one thing, writing him is a little different. (Travis is my IRL name, and I can't write someone who has my name, that's just a little weird for me.)

I still need to come up with a decent "Virmire Choice" situation. And right now I have basically one short story-type deal, which I would sorta like to deal with another short-story type-deal so I can deal with Shepard/Miranda/Ashley.

[Ieldra]

ComTrav wrote...
Remember in the early age of the thread when people would post music videos of songs that reminded them of the Miranda/Shepard relationship?

I've been taking notes, including the song titles.

And I'm sure there's no argument here that Miranda is a "flower, a basil, a ruby, a Sultana, a famous, and the legitimate queen among all queens."

Somehow my sound is off here. I'll listen to it later. But that looks great.

Further: Arabian Nights themed RPG is at the top of my list of about ten-games I'd like Bioware or someone to make.

I second that. But first finish ME3 and continue the DAO saga.

[jtav]

Ieldra2 wrote...

That used to happen with jtav, back when we were talking about details of Miranda's personality. But since talk has shifted more to her role in the story and she's started to post some of her weirder ideas, things have gotten more balanced.

What? Honestly, you say you like the idea you like her with the alien and people think you've lost it

Or is this about the Miranda-as-villain thing? I don't think she would make a good villain now. But if we weren't stuck with H.P. Lovecraft in space, I would have preferred her or an antagonist like her. The Reapers are so alien that I don't really care about them and wish they'd go away so I could concentrate on the plots I care about.

[jtav]

The "Miranda is a virgin" thing REALLY bothers me, as does the opposite "Miranda is a ****." I've gone on at length elsewhere, but both send me into rant mode.