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[t3HPrO]

ComTrav wrote...

Am I dead? Is this heaven? ...shouldn't there be 71 more of you?

Lmao you sure she's still a virgin?I mean,she DID have something going on with the black robot human(a.k.a Jacob Taylor)...

[Ieldra]

t3HPrO wrote...

ComTrav wrote...

Am I dead? Is this heaven? ...shouldn't there be 71 more of you?

Lmao you sure she's still a virgin?I mean,she DID have something going on with the black robot human(a.k.a Jacob Taylor)...

Not this discussion again. We had that on page 60 to 80 of this thread. With one exception, there was a consensus that Miranda is sexually experienced but does have standards and doesn't sleep with anyone casually.
The picture and comment is still great. Someone referred to Miranda as a "badass angel". I like that. And btw, don't you think these mythological virgins won't stay that way for long? That part wasn't made up for triggering images of people sitting on clouds and singing.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 07 mai 2010 - 11:28 .

[jtav]

Morning all.



Ieldra, discussion was in the group because kraidy was stuck ther due to a temp ban. People started talking about fanfic and well...

[Ieldra]

Morning, jtav. You seem early today.



And thanks for the info, I have since read it in the group. *shakes head* Wasn't he temp-banned for the same thing a few weeks ago? This is getting dangerous...

[Jebel Krong]

yeah i saw that this morning, buddha: posthuman huh? i guess both her and shep are getting that way (and maybe even TIM?).

[jtav]

Well, she does have a weakness for bad pick up lines and uses them herself.



Couldn't sleep Ieldra.And I believe he was. Don't troll myself. Discussion more fun, and even then I try to stay mostly positive on all the threads except for this one.

[Andaius20]

Look what mission I'm on, I'll see if I can't snap some good one of Miranda.

[Sleepy Buddha]

Ieldra2 wrote...

Sleepy Buddha wrote...

Summer Glau's outfit from the 16th pic looks awesome on her and would look incredible on Miri.

That's....er.....extremely compelling. I wonder if Bioware are taking recommendations for her Alternate Appearance DLC...

We wish. Maybe they keep an eye on the thread and take the hint.

Otherwise we might just have to take a more active approach.



It would definitely be worth the effort.

[jtav]

I'd still rather have proper armor. *grumbles*

[Sleepy Buddha]

jtav wrote...

I'd still rather have proper armor. *grumbles*

Asari commandos never wear armor (unless you count leather as such) and Miranda strikes me as someone who follows that kind of combat philosophy.

Mobility and agility are paramount and armor would get in the way. And she still has barriers to protect her if she's hit.

She's not a heavy tank type. She's a sort of light scout type. Even her weapons selection shows that.

[Jebel Krong]

i prefer custom outfits than stupidly-all-the-same-no-variation-arbitrary-armour-sets.

[DarkSeraphym]

Wow, I haven't stopped by here in some time. Perhaps this is rather sad or a sign that I enjoyed the particular way a character was written, however I recently started playing another round of Mass Effect 2 to attempt to stay loyal to Ashley. Prior to this, I've beaten Mass Effect 2 7 times and each time have romanced Miranda. It is a real challenge to keep playing through this one.



I liked Ashley a lot in the first game, but as others have mentioned here I also get a vibe of Fire and Ice from both of these particular characters. They seem to be polar ends of one another and I am finding it quite difficult to like both of them at the same time. Personally, I find myself playing Renegade most of the time anyways and allying myself with the cause of Cerberus, so I think that helps add to the problem because I am not sure I can see a good outcome coming out of Commander Shepard and Ashley given William's attitude toward Cerberus.



Perhaps I am merely getting too sucked into this game, but is anyone else having a similar problem? I feel like, for Renegade Shepard at least, that Miranda Lawson is a much more natural pairing than Ashley. At one time, I thought William's distrust of aliens was a great fit for ReneShep, but now after I've played the game so many times with Miranda; it just seems like Miranda is the better fit.

[Ieldra]

Andaius20 wrote...



Look what mission I'm on, I'll see if I can't snap some good one of Miranda.

Hehe....the look on that salarian's face is priceless.

I'm looking forward to your shots. But if you can come up with anything we haven't seen before, I'll be surprised. Don't worry, though. Good screenshots are always appreciated.

[TheSixthghoul]

I was wondering why didn't Miranda just kill her father? I think this is also one of the reason's her father had only daughters without all the extra testosterone pumping threw their veins, less likelihood of death with the stunts he pulled.

[Ieldra]

Sleepy Buddha wrote...

jtav wrote...
I'd still rather have proper armor. *grumbles*

Asari commandos never wear armor (unless you count leather as such) and Miranda strikes me as someone who follows that kind of combat philosophy.

Mobility and agility are paramount and armor would get in the way. And she still has barriers to protect her if she's hit.

She's not a heavy tank type. She's a sort of light scout type. Even her weapons selection shows that.

Even so....I like close-fitting, but Miranda's outfit is ridiculously close-fitting. In places it looks like they just textured the skin. I very much doubt you'd find that if you scanned Summer Glau in that outfit.

[Ieldra]

jtav wrote...
Well, she does have a weakness for bad pick up lines and uses them herself.

There is that. But somehow that thing with Jacob must have started....

[Ieldra]

DarkSeraphym wrote...
Wow, I haven't stopped by here in some time. Perhaps this is rather sad or a sign that I enjoyed the particular way a character was written, however I recently started playing another round of Mass Effect 2 to attempt to stay loyal to Ashley. Prior to this, I've beaten Mass Effect 2 7 times and each time have romanced Miranda. It is a real challenge to keep playing through this one.

I liked Ashley a lot in the first game, but as others have mentioned here I also get a vibe of Fire and Ice from both of these particular characters. They seem to be polar ends of one another and I am finding it quite difficult to like both of them at the same time. Personally, I find myself playing Renegade most of the time anyways and allying myself with the cause of Cerberus, so I think that helps add to the problem because I am not sure I can see a good outcome coming out of Commander Shepard and Ashley given William's attitude toward Cerberus.

Perhaps I am merely getting too sucked into this game, but is anyone else having a similar problem? I feel like, for Renegade Shepard at least, that Miranda Lawson is a much more natural pairing than Ashley. At one time, I thought William's distrust of aliens was a great fit for ReneShep, but now after I've played the game so many times with Miranda; it just seems like Miranda is the better fit.

I also find it very hard to stay away from Miranda. I usually play Paragade, but I have something for a subset of Cerberus' goals that I tend to infuse my Shepards with, regardless of how their decisions go in the end. That it's not easy to play ME2 without any romance adds to the problem. So far I haven't got a Shepard who has stayed true to Ashley, while I do have a femShep who stayed true to Kaidan. That's not hard, given the selection of romances for femSheps.

But I think the most important aspect is that I like Miranda. As I said repeatedly before, Ashley is a great character, but Miranda seems to be made for characters I play. With the result that she's the first video game character I consider myself a fan of in over 20 years of playing games. I'd have to make a real role-playing effort to stay away from her. It's much easier to ignore my dislike of interspecies romance and have my femShep romance Thane than to stay away from Miranda. 

So. Yes. I understand you.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 07 mai 2010 - 01:53 .

[Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien]

Sixth Goul wrote...

I was wondering why didn't Miranda just kill her father? I think this is also one of the reason's her father had only daughters without all the extra testosterone pumping threw their veins, less likelihood of death with the stunts he pulled.

Well the only thing that she really mentions about their parting is that "Shots were fired!" now for all we know that could've been a whole bunch of his bodyguards or other such underlings shooting at Miranda in an attempt to 'remove the mistake/failure' that he deemed Miranda as.

[DarkSeraphym]

Ieldra2 wrote...

DarkSeraphym wrote...
Wow, I haven't stopped by here in some time. Perhaps this is rather sad or a sign that I enjoyed the particular way a character was written, however I recently started playing another round of Mass Effect 2 to attempt to stay loyal to Ashley. Prior to this, I've beaten Mass Effect 2 7 times and each time have romanced Miranda. It is a real challenge to keep playing through this one.

I liked Ashley a lot in the first game, but as others have mentioned here I also get a vibe of Fire and Ice from both of these particular characters. They seem to be polar ends of one another and I am finding it quite difficult to like both of them at the same time. Personally, I find myself playing Renegade most of the time anyways and allying myself with the cause of Cerberus, so I think that helps add to the problem because I am not sure I can see a good outcome coming out of Commander Shepard and Ashley given William's attitude toward Cerberus.

Perhaps I am merely getting too sucked into this game, but is anyone else having a similar problem? I feel like, for Renegade Shepard at least, that Miranda Lawson is a much more natural pairing than Ashley. At one time, I thought William's distrust of aliens was a great fit for ReneShep, but now after I've played the game so many times with Miranda; it just seems like Miranda is the better fit.

I also find it very hard to stay away from Miranda. I usually play Paragade, but I have something for a subset of Cerberus' goals that I tend to infuse my Shepards with, regardless of how their decisions go in the end. That it's not easy to play ME2 without any romance adds to the problem. So far I haven't got a Shepard who has stayed true to Ashley, while I do have a femShep who stayed true to Kaidan. That's not hard, given the selection of romances for femSheps.

But I think the most important aspect is that I like Miranda. As I said repeatedly before, Ashley is a great character, but Miranda seems to be made for characters I play. With the result that she's the first video game character I consider myself a fan of in over 20 years of playing games. I'd have to make a real role-playing effort to stay away from her. It's much easier to ignore my dislike of interspecies romance and have my femShep romance Thane than to stay away from Miranda. 

So. Yes. I understand you.

Awesome, someone else who is in agreement.

Though I should probably jump in and correct something I said earlier (I made this mistake earlier too and someone nearly killed me for it). I probably shouldn't have used the alignment to designate one character's affinity for Cerberus or for the Alliance. Though, I think most of us can agree a Renegade Shepard will have more affinity towards the goals of Cerberus by the end of the game while a Paragon Shepard will be more inclined towards the goals of the Alliance. This is precisely where the problem comes in for me on how to romance anyone other than Miranda.

Ashley is too loyal to the Alliance for my liking and (this isn't a debate for which side is better than the other so do not take it as such), I always play this game for the role-playing rather than the game itself. As such, I always play the game the exact sameway and I find myself usually playing the true Renegade Shepard. Not necessarily an a-hole, since I think that is too over the top and I would imagine a real ReneShep would find it necessary to gain the loyalty of his crew anyways. However, I find myself sympathizing with the pro-humanity dominance ideas of Cerberus and for that reason, I simply find myself unable to really like Ashley anymore. In fact, I'm wondering how that will even play into Mass Effect 3. I find it way too unbelievable with Ashley's loyalty to the Alliance that I am going to get her on the side of Cerberus unless Cerberus takes control of the Alliance and forces her to do it.

Miranda, on the other hand, is one of the more flexible and dynamic characters of the game (I probably would not have written her that way). Essentially, a Paragon or a Renegade Shepard is capable of romancing her and she actually grows according to such. If you opt to remain a Renegade Shepard, she will remain loyal to Cerberus and to Shepard. If not, she'll separate from Cerberus and remain loyal to Shepard anyways, which is another reason I think she makes for one of the best fits with Commander Shepard. Even though I like her flexibility, I still think the notion of Miranda separating herself from Cerberus is rather silly. Sure she is loyal to them because they protect her and her sister, but I find it a little absurd to believe that the terrors she saw within the Collector Base are going to be enough to make her forget about that.

I really don't want to turn this into an anti-Ashley flamefest for some of those who like Ashley since I still feel an attachment to her as my first romance in the Mass Effect series. However, I am now at a point where I do not really feel any attraction to her character anymore. She became too "soft" for my liking and is way too blind to an military organization that more or less sits on its rear-end and ignores the problems at hand. However, the way Miranda separated from the Illusive Man so hastily by the end of the game does not bode well for Ashley in my eyes. I'm hoping they'll keep her a complex character, even if I don't like her as much anymore, and keep her siding with the Alliance.

I can safely say that I am appreciative of the developers keeping characters like Miranda and Ashley in the game. Every flaw I've just mentioned of Ashley's character is more or less true of Miranda as well. It seems like it is more or less which side you tend to stick with more is going to determine which of the two you like more.

Modifié par DarkSeraphym, 07 mai 2010 - 02:24 .

[Sleepy Buddha]

It just occurred to me that Summer Glau kinda looks like a younger Miranda in that pic.



Perhaps Oriana joins the fight in ME3?



*hopes someone from Bioware is reading the thread and gets the hint*







@Jebel: I got really tired of the armors in ME.



@Ieldra: Yeah, it's a bit much sometimes, but I like looking at her in those outfits. Though if Bioware gave us the Glau outfit, she would pretty much end up wearing it all the time in my games.

[jtav]

I don't particularly care for her outfits, though I vastly prefer her loyalty one. *prepares to be mobbed*

[Jebel Krong]

DarkSeraphym wrote...

Though, I think most of us can agree a Renegade Shepard will have more affinity towards the goals of Cerberus by the end of the game while a Paragon Shepard will be more inclined towards the goals of the Alliance.

absolutely not. renegade shepard is about doing things expediently and *your* way, not necessarily by the book. that does not mean any coincidence with the views or goals of Cerberus, which is why the ending of me2 fails so badly - transposing that into a forced 'moral' choice pro-one or the other, which the game had carefully avoided till then.

[Sleepy Buddha]

jtav wrote...

I don't particularly care for her outfits, though I vastly prefer her loyalty one. *prepares to be mobbed*

I disagree and agree with you, respectively.

I love her outfits, ridiculousness and all. But like you, I also vastly prefer the loyalty one. While still extremely tight, it's color scheme makes it much more subtle and suits her personality much better.