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[Collider]

MrNose wrote...

Collider wrote...

MrNose wrote...

Collider wrote...

I believe the problem is that apparently the paragon options (as well as other options), if I am not mistaken, which most players instinctively go for, paint the relationship in a more sexual way. If this is the case, part of the blame is on the writers and developers.

I'm pretty sure most of the people who say it's just about sex just didn't play through it.  It's not like the other LIs where you can do it after the collector mission, you have to integrate it into the story.  If you're not interested in Miranda it's not something you're likely to experience.

What exactly do you mean by that? You can romance any love interest after the suicide mission. Just do a few sidequests so the romance progresses. No story integration needed.

Oh really?  Someone told me that the only way you can go through the love scene with Miranda is on the way to the Omega4 relay.  They wrote a rather long complain-y blog entry about it too, as they intended to go through all of the romances after the collector mission so they could have a save for "stay faithful, Tali, Jack, and Miranda."

That's with all of the romances...you only have the romance scene through the omega4 relay. 

[Fiery Phoenix]

Yeah, I haven't heard about being able to actually trigger another romance scene with your LI after the suicide mission. After the suicide mission, you can only get intimate with them. But that's as far as it gets.

[jtav]

Should I feel guilty that I'm cutting all the "definitely not a fling" dialogue in my romance rewrite? Granted. "just trying to get you into bed" is delivered after he takes a bullet for her, but still...

[Caihn]

Collider wrote...

MrNose wrote...

Collider wrote...

MrNose wrote...

Collider wrote...

I believe the problem is that apparently the paragon options (as well as other options), if I am not mistaken, which most players instinctively go for, paint the relationship in a more sexual way. If this is the case, part of the blame is on the writers and developers.

I'm pretty sure most of the people who say it's just about sex just didn't play through it.  It's not like the other LIs where you can do it after the collector mission, you have to integrate it into the story.  If you're not interested in Miranda it's not something you're likely to experience.

What exactly do you mean by that? You can romance any love interest after the suicide mission. Just do a few sidequests so the romance progresses. No story integration needed.

Oh really?  Someone told me that the only way you can go through the love scene with Miranda is on the way to the Omega4 relay.  They wrote a rather long complain-y blog entry about it too, as they intended to go through all of the romances after the collector mission so they could have a save for "stay faithful, Tali, Jack, and Miranda."

That's with all of the romances...you only have the romance scene through the omega4 relay. 

http://masseffect.wi...om/wiki/Romance

Due to either a glitch or development oversight, if Shepard has one person 'locked in' and are at the 'challenge' stage with any of the other possible subjects prior to entering the Omega 4 Relay, Shepard have the option of dumping the 'locked in' subject after completing the finale, provided that Shepard survives. Doing so will allow Shepard to court one of the other subjects and the intimate scene normally seen before proceeding through the Omega 4 Relay will instead play as soon as the dialogue ends. It is thus possible to experience all three partners and their respective scenes this way. However, once a partner is 'dumped', they cannot be courted again. It is currently unknown how this will affect your save game and therefore affect the events of Mass Effect 3.

[Fiery Phoenix]

^ Interesting!

[Caihn]

Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien wrote...

Yannkee wrote...

I hope Yvonne knows there are players who are not like them, who appreciate her amazing voice acting , who like her character not only for her body.
I hope Yvonne knows we exist.

Hopefully either herself or someone she knows who can tell her possibly sees this topic and thus hopefully knows that.

We know she has friends who played ME2. So maybe they went to the BSN and saw this topic.

[jtav]

Stumbled on a bit of interesting discussion going back over the thread, so I have a question:



If Shepard died defeating the Reapers, would Miranda attempt another Lazarus Project, assuming she could find someone willing to bankroll it?

[Fiery Phoenix]

jtav wrote...

Stumbled on a bit of interesting discussion going back over the thread, so I have a question:

If Shepard died defeating the Reapers, would Miranda attempt another Lazarus Project, assuming she could find someone willing to bankroll it?

I don't think so. The Lazarus Project is said to be an operation never to be repeated or something. It's not something they could do easily. Moreover, Shepard's body would have to be recovered again so they could start over. Obviously, they can't recronstruct him out of nothing!

[Caihn]

jtav wrote...

Stumbled on a bit of interesting discussion going back over the thread, so I have a question:

If Shepard died defeating the Reapers, would Miranda attempt another Lazarus Project, assuming she could find someone willing to bankroll it?

If it's possible I'm sure she would do it. But I prefer think it's not possible because the promise she wants from Shepard in ME2 would be less meaningful.

Modifié par Yannkee, 10 mai 2010 - 07:34 .

[kraidy1117]

I now feel bad for making that pic now......

[Caihn]

kraidy1117 wrote...

I now feel bad for making that pic now......

In fact, I was surprised it was you who made it.
I'm sure there were no bad intentions, but I was little bit disapointed.

[jtav]

Struggling fic writer needs assistance. I need a rational reason, any rational reason, to explain the plot hole of the entire squad leaving the Normandy while leaving the crew behind.

[jtav]

Double post.

Modifié par jtav, 10 mai 2010 - 09:08 .

[Collider]

Ice cream

[MrNose]

Yannkee wrote...

http://masseffect.wi...om/wiki/Romance

Due to either a glitch or development oversight, if Shepard has one person 'locked in' and are at the 'challenge' stage with any of the other possible subjects prior to entering the Omega 4 Relay, Shepard have the option of dumping the 'locked in' subject after completing the finale, provided that Shepard survives. Doing so will allow Shepard to court one of the other subjects and the intimate scene normally seen before proceeding through the Omega 4 Relay will instead play as soon as the dialogue ends. It is thus possible to experience all three partners and their respective scenes this way. However, once a partner is 'dumped', they cannot be courted again. It is currently unknown how this will affect your save game and therefore affect the events of Mass Effect 3.

Alright then, this is what my friend tried to do, and they must have done it wrong. The reason I thought that Miranda was different was because I (who had romanced Miranda before the SM mission) decided that I wanted to see all three romances, so I did this without realizing that it was a glitch.  I just assumed that I would be able to because I saw no reason for their feelings to change suddenly after the suicide mission.  So I dumped Miranda and after the SM went for Tali and then Jack, and now I have saves for all of them! 

(Actually, I swear that I dumped Miranda before the SM, beause I wanted a save where I stayed faithful with Ashley, and then from that save I made two new saves where I romanced Tali and Jack.  According to the wikia I must have dumped Miranda afterwards though.)

[Collider]

The reasoning for everyone going into the shuttle was because the Normandy had to be grounded - or stationary - in order for the IFF to be implemented. Therefore they used the shuttle to go to the next mission (space pizza?). Everyone went in because uh...Shepard would be able to choose his personal squad that way. The game didn't do a great job of explaining the whole thing, it's rather flimsy.

Modifié par Collider, 10 mai 2010 - 09:09 .

[Caihn]

jtav wrote...

Struggling fic writer needs assistance. I need a rational reason, any rational reason, to explain the plot hole of the entire squad leaving the Normandy while leaving the crew behind.

Sorry I don't find any rational reason. Besides, I think the shuttle is too small for the entire squad.

Modifié par Yannkee, 10 mai 2010 - 09:14 .

[Fiery Phoenix]

Actually, most of the time, if you really think about it, it seems as if the game defaultly "assumes" that Shepard takes his entire squad with him on missions. This hold true for both ME1 and ME2. I don't know how to explain it really, but anyone who's played either game enough times probably have noticed that.



Anyhow, I'm off to bed. It's getting late where I live. 8am classes = FAIL!

[kraidy1117]

They where going to Afterlife.

[Fiery Phoenix]

@Yannkee



Just a quick correction: The Codex explicitly mentions that the shuttle is large enough to comfortably hold 12 passengers. The entire squad in ME2 is exactly 12 members. But if you count Shepard, that's 13. Either way, it's definitely not "too small" for the team.

[TheSixthghoul]

kraidy1117 wrote...

I now feel bad for making that pic now......

Why feel bad about it's not even Yvonnoe's real body it's just her face? No reason to feel bad about putting that picture up you were just being a dude (if your not a dude apologizes). Just because you put that picture and put those comments up doesnt mean anything. To me you we're just expressing your view on a sex scene again nothing to be a shamed off. Your no better or worse then any of the fantics (fans) on other threads.. that is all.

[kraidy1117]

Yannkee wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

I now feel bad for making that pic now......

In fact, I was surprised it was you who made it.
I'm sure there were no bad intentions, but I was little bit disapointed.

It was just joking around, I did't mean to get people mad

[kraidy1117]

FieryPhoenix7 wrote...

@Yannkee

Just a quick correction: The Codex explicitly mentions that the shuttle is large enough to comfortably hold 12 passengers. The entire squad in ME2 is exactly 12 members. But if you count Shepard, that's 13. Either way, it's definitely not "too small" for the team.

Grunt is the size of two squadmates

[MrNose]

FieryPhoenix7 wrote...

@Yannkee

Just a quick correction: The Codex explicitly mentions that the shuttle is large enough to comfortably hold 12 passengers. The entire squad in ME2 is exactly 12 members. But if you count Shepard, that's 13. Either way, it's definitely not "too small" for the team.

That must be why he's standing up when your team boards the shuttle.  The apostles get to sit down, Jesus stands.

FieryPhoenix7 wrote...

Actually, most of the time, if you
really think about it, it seems as if the game defaultly "assumes" that
Shepard takes his entire squad with him on missions. This hold true for
both ME1 and ME2. I don't know how to explain it really, but anyone
who's played either game enough times probably have noticed that.

Anyhow,
I'm off to bed. It's getting late where I live. 8am classes = FAIL!

I've noticed that a few times as well.  His team is there for multiple missions, but his personal squad is just three people.  It was also hinted by some of the bridge crew that when the Normandy docks on a hub planet the crew gets to take shore leave.

[MrNose]

kraidy1117 wrote...

Yannkee wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

I now feel bad for making that pic now......

In fact, I was surprised it was you who made it.
I'm sure there were no bad intentions, but I was little bit disapointed.

It was just joking around, I did't mean to get people mad

It was a funny picture dude.  There's nothing wrong with acknowledging that the character model is designed to be attractive to the game characters, it's when someone limits the character so that their appearance is all they are that things get bad. 

P.S.  As someone mentioned, that's not Yvonne's body.