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[jtav]

Resigning makes a LOT more sense if you take her on Jack's mission. She sounds genuinely horrified.

[Valmy]

jtav wrote...

Resigning makes a LOT more sense if you take her on Jack's mission. She sounds genuinely horrified.

If you take her on missions and talk to her and go through her romance and so forth the resignation is not a surprise.  But she will do it even if you only interact with her the bare minimum...and then take her along for the final battle for some reason.

[kraidy1117]

Valmy wrote...

jtav wrote...

Resigning makes a LOT more sense if you take her on Jack's mission. She sounds genuinely horrified.

If you take her on missions and talk to her and go through her romance and so forth the resignation is not a surprise.  But she will do it even if you only interact with her the bare minimum...and then take her along for the final battle for some reason.

Bioware got lazy, but it makes alot more snece if you are romancing her or you befrined her. If you read the summary after her personal mission, she now trust Shepard a great deal.

[jtav]

I still say it would have made for better storytelling if she had turned on you if she was non-loyal and you destroyed the base. You'd then have to kill her. Beats "rocks fall, everyone dies *dodges rotten tomatoes*

[kraidy1117]

jtav wrote...

I still say it would have made for better storytelling if she had turned on you if she was non-loyal and you destroyed the base. You'd then have to kill her. Beats "rocks fall, everyone dies *dodges rotten tomatoes*

As I said Bioware got lazy, she is going to die anyways, it would have been better if there was scene like Wrex in ME where if you did her personal mission you don't have to pass a charm or intimanate cheack, or if you are romancing you can bring her back with love(Bastila from KOTOR) then if yo can't calm her down, she turns on you and then you have to kill her.

[jtav]

I wouldn't have offered the player a way out. If she's not loyal, you have to kill her period.



Though her actual death scene really works for me, though I like to pretend it happened if she was romanced. The whole "dying in your arms" thing.



What?

[kraidy1117]

jtav wrote...

I wouldn't have offered the player a way out. If she's not loyal, you have to kill her period.

Though her actual death scene really works for me, though I like to pretend it happened if she was romanced. The whole "dying in your arms" thing.

What?

that scene made me sad.

[Ieldra]

jtav wrote...
I still say it would have made for better storytelling if she had turned on you if she was non-loyal and you destroyed the base. You'd then have to kill her. Beats "rocks fall, everyone dies *dodges rotten tomatoes*

No, you're absolutely right. It would have made for better storytelling. That way game "loyalty" would really mean something about loyalty, instead of serving as a "avoids death in battle" marker. It's the same for most of the other characters, only most of them can't pull a reason to betray you out of the hat as easily as Miranda. And if you don't want her to betray you, then, well, you *can* play her loyalty mission, after all, and defuse the conflict between her and Jack. It would all have been in the player's hands.

About her death scene in the final battle....I don't want to see that ever again.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 18 mai 2010 - 07:41 .

[kraidy1117]

Ieldra2 wrote...

jtav wrote...
I still say it would have made for better storytelling if she had turned on you if she was non-loyal and you destroyed the base. You'd then have to kill her. Beats "rocks fall, everyone dies *dodges rotten tomatoes*

No, you're absolutely right. It would have made for better storytelling. That way game "loyalty" would really mean something about loyalty, instead of serving as a "avoids death in battle" marker. It's the same for most of the other characters, only most of them can't pull a reason to betray you out of the hat as easily as Miranda. And if you don't want her to betray you, then, well, you *can* play her loyalty mission, after all, and defuse the conflict between her and Jack. It would all have been in the player's hands.

About her death scene in the final battle....I don't want to see that ever again.

Did you see it on youtube or did it in game?

[jtav]

I've killed her. Only the once. No plans to do it again. Fanfic...well, there is this one idea, but dead characters can'r grow, and I love torturing her too much.

[Valmy]

jtav wrote...

I've killed her. Only the once. No plans to do it again. Fanfic...well, there is this one idea, but dead characters can'r grow, and I love torturing her too much.

YOU MONSTER!

[jtav]

Valmy, I thought we'd already established that?

Seriously, I think my love for her is either less or entirely different from most. I don't mind treating her horribly in game or speculating on some unsavory things.

Modifié par jtav, 18 mai 2010 - 08:01 .

[Ieldra]

kraidy1117 wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...
About her death scene in the final battle....I don't want to see that ever again.

Did you see it on youtube or did it in game?

Youtube. If you've followed my posts you know I haven't played a "kill everyone" or even a "kill most of them" game yet. I might get to play a "kill all nonhumans and Jack" game, but Miranda? Never.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 18 mai 2010 - 07:59 .

[Ieldra]

Valmy wrote...

jtav wrote...
I've killed her. Only the once. No plans to do it again. Fanfic...well, there is this one idea, but dead characters can'r grow, and I love torturing her too much.

YOU MONSTER!

She's just flirting with her story ideas. I say cookie monster!

[kraidy1117]

Ieldra2 wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...
About her death scene in the final battle....I don't want to see that ever again.

Did you see it on youtube or did it in game?

Youtube. If you've followed my posts you know I haven't played a "kill everyone" or even a "kill most of them" game yet. I might get to play a "kill all nonhumans and Jack" game, but Miranda? Never.

that made me laugh, I did a bloodbath run and only survior was Joker and Miri.

[Ieldra]

kraidy1117 wrote...
that made me laugh, I did a bloodbath run and only survior was Joker and Miri.

I guess Shepard didn't survive....I hope he didn't promise Miranda not to die in that game....and btw, Jacob is also human and not Jack.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 18 mai 2010 - 08:05 .

[kraidy1117]

Ieldra2 wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...
that made me laugh, I did a bloodbath run and only survior was Joker and Miri.

I guess Shepard didn't survive....I hope he didn't promise Miranda not to die in that game....

I did in fact, poor miri...... like I wanted to do a everyone dies, but I could't, watched it on youtube and man was that sad, still find Garrus death speach dam sad. "Won't be there at the end, snipe one for me"

[kraidy1117]

Wait what? Jacks not human? This human is confuse?

[Ieldra]

kraidy1117 wrote...
Wait what? Jacks not human? This human is confuse?

No, Jacob is also human, and he is also not Jack. Which means, in my "kill all non-humans and Jack" game, Jacob will survive.

[Vyndael]

jtav wrote...

Valmy, I thought we'd already established that?

Seriously, I think my love for her is either less or entirely different from most. I don't mind treating her horribly in game or speculating on some unsavory things.

Should have known...

[jtav]

I'm the only bloodthirsty one here, aren't I? But thanks to you guys, I am bursting with ideas.

[kraidy1117]

The only character I don't care if she dies is Morinth, and her head is splattered all over the floor.

[Collider]

Agree with Kraidy. Everyone besides Morinth is cool and I don't want them to die.

[jtav]

Vyn: huh? I've already admitted to having a "pass the popcorn" reaction if she betrayed you. Long as she wasn't doomed to die.

[kraidy1117]

Collider wrote...

Agree with Kraidy. Everyone besides Morinth is cool and I don't want them to die.

Hell, I don't even let Jacon die because simply without Jacob we would not have the priiiiize anymore