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Sixth Goul wrote...
Yeah, I could see it, Legion is alot more...lively then the blue wall that needs a comic to get over.MrNose wrote...
I have trouble imagining Miri/Liara. Miri/Legion sure! They were both engineered, so they have that in common...
Modifié par DarkSeraphym, 23 mai 2010 - 03:46 .
Sixth Goul wrote...
As an add note this is noway an anti Jack statement, this is solely based opinion and fact.
Modifié par VampireCommando, 23 mai 2010 - 07:25 .
fongiel24 wrote...
Sixth Goul wrote...
As an add note this is noway an anti Jack statement, this is solely based opinion and fact.
Technically this is a contradictory statement. Something cannot be both "solely opinion" and "solely fact" - it is either one or the other. I agree with you that on the surface, Jack's backstory seems more extensive than Miranda's. Based solely on what we hear in the game, Jack tells us about a lot of things she has done while Miranda tells us virtually nothing.
However, Miranda has been a Cerberus agent since her late teens. In that time I am willing to bet that she has done at least as much as Jack has, if not more. The difference is that while Miranda would like to keep those activites in her past secret, Jack treats them like a badge of honour and thus flaunts them openly and brags about them. Miranda choosing not to tell Shepard about what she has done does not mean Miranda has a boring, empty history.
kraidy1117 wrote...
fongiel24 wrote...
Sixth Goul wrote...
As an add note this is noway an anti Jack statement, this is solely based opinion and fact.
Technically this is a contradictory statement. Something cannot be both "solely opinion" and "solely fact" - it is either one or the other. I agree with you that on the surface, Jack's backstory seems more extensive than Miranda's. Based solely on what we hear in the game, Jack tells us about a lot of things she has done while Miranda tells us virtually nothing.
However, Miranda has been a Cerberus agent since her late teens. In that time I am willing to bet that she has done at least as much as Jack has, if not more. The difference is that while Miranda would like to keep those activites in her past secret, Jack treats them like a badge of honour and thus flaunts them openly and brags about them. Miranda choosing not to tell Shepard about what she has done does not mean Miranda has a boring, empty history.
I like to think that miri might be a little ashamed about what she has doen and also she does not like to talk about her self that much. Before she met Shepard she considred herself a tool and nothing more.
VampireCommando wrote...
kraidy1117 wrote...
fongiel24 wrote...
Sixth Goul wrote...
As an add note this is noway an anti Jack statement, this is solely based opinion and fact.
Technically this is a contradictory statement. Something cannot be both "solely opinion" and "solely fact" - it is either one or the other. I agree with you that on the surface, Jack's backstory seems more extensive than Miranda's. Based solely on what we hear in the game, Jack tells us about a lot of things she has done while Miranda tells us virtually nothing.
However, Miranda has been a Cerberus agent since her late teens. In that time I am willing to bet that she has done at least as much as Jack has, if not more. The difference is that while Miranda would like to keep those activites in her past secret, Jack treats them like a badge of honour and thus flaunts them openly and brags about them. Miranda choosing not to tell Shepard about what she has done does not mean Miranda has a boring, empty history.
I like to think that miri might be a little ashamed about what she has doen and also she does not like to talk about her self that much. Before she met Shepard she considred herself a tool and nothing more.
Exactly what i was thinking Kraidy, not until she meets shepard does she realise that she is more than a tool to be used and disgarded by cerberus and her father, and that shepard shows her that she is not a tool and a person of worth.
VampireCommando wrote...
Well she says it her self that her father pushed her to meet impossiable demads, even for someone as gifted as herself, so i bet that was just as tough, if no where near the same as Jacks childhood, and i doubt when she first got into ceberus she had a walk in the park, and like you guys have mentioned, she probbly had to do some pritty bad things and it is a military organization- if a rouge one apparently.
Yeah i meant in the way that Miri would have been at the top schools and military and Biotic schools, forging her into the woman that she now is, whislt jack would of been in that test facility, that is i what i meant by diffrent, but you are totally correct where you say they had similar childhoods, in hte sense that they were both horrific, and the way in which they deal with it dictate the way in how they evolve as characters.kraidy1117 wrote...
VampireCommando wrote...
Well she says it her self that her father pushed her to meet impossiable demads, even for someone as gifted as herself, so i bet that was just as tough, if no where near the same as Jacks childhood, and i doubt when she first got into ceberus she had a walk in the park, and like you guys have mentioned, she probbly had to do some pritty bad things and it is a military organization- if a rouge one apparently.
Jack and miri had a similar childhood, with Jack having a more extream one but both are similar. Both have had horrific past that made them into the woman they are, however both deal with it diffrently.
kraidy1117 wrote...
I like to think that miri might be a little ashamed about what she has doen and also she does not like to talk about her self that much. Before she met Shepard she considred herself a tool and nothing more.
fongiel24 wrote...
kraidy1117 wrote...
I like to think that miri might be a little ashamed about what she has doen and also she does not like to talk about her self that much. Before she met Shepard she considred herself a tool and nothing more.
Miranda might have considered herself a tool of Cerberus', but I doubt she regrets much of what she's done. She's a paragade, after all, and thus she is not afraid to get her hands dirty if she has to.
She quits Cerberus because of the Illusive Man's intention to keep the Collector base (if Shepard takes the Paragon route), not because she's suddenly had a revelation that everything she's done up to that point is immoral.
If you were to ask Miranda after ME2 whether she regrets anything she'd done during her Cerberus career, I doubt she would have very many regrets at all.
Miranda's reluctance to share the details of her career with Shepard are probably more due to her personality than a sense of guilt. Jack feels the need to brag. Miranda does not. Although Miranda considers herself a tool, she doesn't need to brag to validate her worth - she's been a very good tool for Cerberus for a long time and she knows it. Miranda doesn't need to prove herself to anybody, not even Shepard.
Andaius20 wrote...
just leaving this here for Kraidy
He wanted to see it. Anyway I need more shots of the other characters in my gallery, I'll try to get some Miri with exotic weaponry shots. Any requests of weaponry you want her to have?
and OMG, it's bigger then her!!!!!!!
Andaius20 wrote...
just leaving this here for Kraidy
He wanted to see it. Anyway I need more shots of the other characters in my gallery, I'll try to get some Miri with exotic weaponry shots. Any requests of weaponry you want her to have?
kraidy1117 wrote...
Andaius20 wrote...
just leaving this here for Kraidy
He wanted to see it. Anyway I need more shots of the other characters in my gallery, I'll try to get some Miri with exotic weaponry shots. Any requests of weaponry you want her to have?
Give her the rev, she does use AR in cut scenes alot.
sledge144 wrote...
Decided to pop in and say hi. I'm completely new to the gaming genre but Miranda's my favorite character in the game.
If she's not in ME3 I'll be very disappointed
Sixth Goul wrote...
I think I figure out what Hudson was talking about, about how Miranda was a simpler character. It might be a good thing to, consider this, between Miranda and Jack who has more personalty? I assume most would say Miranda and I would agree. Sense this is the Miranda's support page I don't need to go into details what makes her deep. But, what about Jack? Well, her personality is really generic, I know,I might get heat for say it, but Jack fans you know it,haters,lovers the whole Tough Girl that just needs a hug and wants to cry her eye's out,yeah we've seen it before early 80's late 90's it's nothing new, it's been done to death. With that said, what could Hudson be talking about? I think he's talking about the background story and this, I can agree with. If you look at Miranda's story at its heart it's about a young woman escaping from an abusive father and in a few detail its a pretty simple story. Looking at Jacks however,Kidnapped as child,experimented on,forced to fight other children,joined a cult and other stuff bottom line her back story is more to it lot more happened. As an add note this is noway an anti Jack statement, this is solely based opinion and fact. In no way is this meant mock,chastise any fans of said characters. If you wish to refute statement good luck.
VampireCommando wrote...
Fair enough, i'm sure your be quite welcome and fit in here, but a question if i may,
when you say new to the gaming genre, do you mean that you've like never played any games before, or just new to the whole community thing?
Modifié par sledge144, 23 mai 2010 - 11:20 .
RPGs are often more based on a complicated plot and many interesting characters. To fully enjoy a RPG I think you should give the story and different characters a little extra attention compared to other games. Take Miranda for example, there is more to her than you might think.sledge144 wrote...
VampireCommando wrote...
Fair enough, i'm sure your be quite welcome and fit in here, but a question if i may,
when you say new to the gaming genre, do you mean that you've like never played any games before, or just new to the whole community thing?
No I do play a fair amount of games, and I am involved in a community for those games, but I've never played RPG's before.
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