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jtav wrote...
You mean Shepard? *cough*
Miranda's actually a pretty good deconstruction of Mary Sue. Designed to be perfect, but emotionally damaged because of it.
Modifié par Collider, 24 mai 2010 - 09:06 .
It's not easy. But I think it can be done. The Warden wasn't very interesting either - albeit less invincible than Shepard, and I was still able to make him interesting. Give him or her flaws and quirks, make them act irrationally at times - or be coldly logical, or in between. It's not easy though, as I said, and as you said, the game portrays Shepard as rather invincible. Having us play through the origins and psych profiles and see Shepard's troubles and trials would have been a gone long way to making Shepard more interesting.Nightwriter wrote...
I'm not a good roleplayer in that if I'm roleplaying an interesting character in my head but the game still plays like I'm a Mary/Marty Stu, it doesn't matter.
Collider wrote...
It's not easy. But I think it can be done. The Warden wasn't very interesting either - albeit less invincible than Shepard, and I was still able to make him interesting. Give him or her flaws and quirks, make them act irrationally at times - or be coldly logical, or in between. It's not easy though, as I said, and as you said, the game portrays Shepard as rather invincible. Having us play through the origins and psych profiles and see Shepard's troubles and trials would have been a gone long way to making Shepard more interesting.Nightwriter wrote...
I'm not a good roleplayer in that if I'm roleplaying an interesting character in my head but the game still plays like I'm a Mary/Marty Stu, it doesn't matter.
Yes. I prefer the ME1 system, but both systems suck. I don't want to be forced to be paragon to use charm, or renegade to use intimidate. I want to roleplay my character as I see fit. They should just have a persuade skill and leave it at that.jtav wrote...
Another problem is that the Paragon/Renegade system can hamstring your choices if you don't metagame, so that you're penalized for being say, a Paragon who hates batarians and so forth.
That's very true, and something I should realized. Dragon Age did exactly what I suggested for Shepard - had us play through their origins and see their suffering. I'm sure that contributed to me thinking of the Warden as more sympathetic.Nightwriter wrote...
Collider wrote...
It's not easy. But I think it can be done. The Warden wasn't very interesting either - albeit less invincible than Shepard, and I was still able to make him interesting. Give him or her flaws and quirks, make them act irrationally at times - or be coldly logical, or in between. It's not easy though, as I said, and as you said, the game portrays Shepard as rather invincible. Having us play through the origins and psych profiles and see Shepard's troubles and trials would have been a gone long way to making Shepard more interesting.Nightwriter wrote...
I'm not a good roleplayer in that if I'm roleplaying an interesting character in my head but the game still plays like I'm a Mary/Marty Stu, it doesn't matter.
With the Warden it was different. I found that character very interesting. Negating the fact that the Warden's possible backgrounds are more interesting and in depth in general, I think this might have a great deal to do with the fact that there is no acting involved with the Warden, so we can paint a lot more onto his/her character.
Nightwriter wrote...
Collider wrote...
It's not easy. But I think it can be done. The Warden wasn't very interesting either - albeit less invincible than Shepard, and I was still able to make him interesting. Give him or her flaws and quirks, make them act irrationally at times - or be coldly logical, or in between. It's not easy though, as I said, and as you said, the game portrays Shepard as rather invincible. Having us play through the origins and psych profiles and see Shepard's troubles and trials would have been a gone long way to making Shepard more interesting.Nightwriter wrote...
I'm not a good roleplayer in that if I'm roleplaying an interesting character in my head but the game still plays like I'm a Mary/Marty Stu, it doesn't matter.
With the Warden it was different. I found that character very interesting. Negating the fact that the Warden's possible backgrounds are more interesting and in depth in general, I think this might have a great deal to do with the fact that there is no acting involved with the Warden, so we can paint a lot more onto his/her character.
With Shepard, we see acting. We hear Shepard's voice, movements, expressions, etc. It's like watching an actor on tv. So to a large extent Shepard is already defined for us.
jtav wrote...
I do have a character concept for my current Shep. For whatever reason, it's easier for me to create Sheps that hate Miranda.
And you wonder why I pair her with Thane and Liara.
kraidy1117 wrote...
jtav wrote...
I do have a character concept for my current Shep. For whatever reason, it's easier for me to create Sheps that hate Miranda.
And you wonder why I pair her with Thane and Liara.
LOL poor Shepard.
jtav wrote...
Why poor Shepard?
He sounds better in romances and while taking renegade decisions.Nightwriter wrote...
I wish male Shepard had a different voice. I think that's what contributes to a lot of the "meh" factor for me.
Nightwriter wrote...
I wish male Shepard had a different voice. I think that's what contributes to a lot of the "meh" factor for me.
Collider wrote...
He sounds better in romances and while taking renegade decisions.
Collider wrote...
Meer improved in ME2. I don't really have a problem with his voice. There are some lines that could have been better (and/or written better), but that is the case with Hale as well.
Nightwriter wrote...
@ Valmy - Deep breaths! Relax! Breathe in and out slowly, three times. It was just a comment!
kraidy1117 wrote...
I did find Hale better in ME, but in ME2 i think the reason why Meer got alot of praise was because he just improved so much.
Modifié par Valmy, 24 mai 2010 - 10:53 .
Valmy wrote...
kraidy1117 wrote...
I did find Hale better in ME, but in ME2 i think the reason why Meer got alot of praise was because he just improved so much.
He played ME1 to get ready to play Shepard in ME2 and it really showed. I was glad he put the effort in.
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