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[Sand King]

[TheSixthghoul]

You didn't know?

[kraidy1117]

Sand King wrote...

:wub:

[Ieldra]

Lots of interesting posts while I was sleeping, it seems.

On the topic of roleplaying Shepard a few thoughts:

Shepard's voice acting:
It's true that the voice defines Shepard's character sometimes more than is good for roleplaying. But for a game like MEx with its cinematic dialogue scenes, it's out of the question to have Shepard mostly unvoiced as in DAO. In the end, it's always a compromise: voiced characters are more lifelike, but are also predefined more. I don't think there is a perfect solution until the time synthetized voices become lifelike and the preferred tone we can select at character creation, for instance in DAO, is automatically enacted by the voice synthetizer.  The voice menu in DAO worked very well for me to individualize my Wardens, even though it's limited to interjections. In ME1/2, Shepard's voice, male or female, works for me 95% of the time, which is pretty good IMO, so it's easy to ignore the 5% of situations where it doesn't, even though those are really jarring.
Having said that, I do have a wider range of Wardens in DAO than I have of Shepards in MEx. That's part of the games' design IMO. 

The Paragon/Renegade system:
Yes, I also think the mix of gaining charm/intimidate skill by acquiring P/R points and manual skill point distribution, as in ME1, lets me roleplay Shepard better than the ME2 system. There is a thread about that.
I recommend cheating to remedy the situation: add points before a decision, subtract them after the scene. That way the P/R meter in the end reflects your Shepard's character while not limiting your roleplaying.

Roleplaying and LI characters:
I've found that the presence of interesting LI characters makes you think about your characters and their personalities more. That's as it should be. One interesting difference between DAO and ME2 is that while your range of Wardens in DAO is wider, there isn't as much of a difference in power and competence between the LIs in DAO as in ME2. Which means that in terms of personality and power, I find it easy to relate to any DAO LI with any Warden, with the decision about who to romance this time mostly determined by the motives underlying to my Warden's plot decisions - because they are what separate them more than anything else in DAO - than by personality and power. While in ME2, my seeming inability to come up with Shepards who are attracted to someone else is a result of her personality and power only. Motives for plot decisions, rarely come into it, because the path to a certain LI has been determined long before that becomes a factor.
One of the results of this is that in DAO, I once played a Warden I imagined as somewhat religious just for the reason that he would fit Leliana better - but I was attracted to her because she was, among other things, competent and experienced in her way, a fit companion for a Warden. In ME2, I couldn't play a more Paragon Shepard just for the reason that he would suit Tali better, because Tali was markedly not as competent and experienced as Miranda, and so a less fitting companion for a Shepard. So in ME2, I always come back to Miranda, while in DAO, I do not always come back to Morrigan.

(BTW: I have not visited the DAO forums much - are there similar discussions about the LI characters there? I would not be surprised if the level of "forum competition" about them would be markedly lower than here)

[Ieldra]

jtav wrote...
I think I need a new favorite character. One with fewer issues. *rubs temples*

You could always decide not to make as much of the issues. I've noticed you tend to overemphasize Miranda's.

Edit:
OK....Miranda's hesitation to trust anyone (I wouldn't call it an "issue" rather than a personality trait learned from experience) is a big problem if you want to pair her with Liara.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 25 mai 2010 - 07:53 .

[kraidy1117]

Ieldra you are right about the voicing, when I first played ME it took awhile to really get into Shepard but after awhile I really got into him. I am a very good Role player so it's easy for me to assume the role of someone, even if they are voiced.



Oh and god morning, you missed the Mass Effect movie rage.

[Ieldra]

kraidy1117 wrote...

Nightwriter wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

Nightwriter wrote...
What lines, specifically, in the suicide mission?

The major suicide speachs (after the normandy crashs and you pcik the tech and fire team leader) and the speach before the platform flies up.

Huh. I actually thought that fell a little bit flat (the lines themselves, I think, not the voice acting).

I felt the lines where amazing. "Make me proud, make your selfs proud."

Ugh.Really, you thought *that* amazing?

When I heard those lines, I thought that if someone would survive the mission and go on to live his or her live somewhere else, (s)he'd speak of Shepard like Mordin spoke of Kirrahe: "Good commander, but a bit of a cloaca. Loved his speeches...'Make me proud'."

Somehow, these speeches always fail to evoke the passion that they're made to evoke. They just sound silly. I always wonder "Does this really work? Why aren't they all ROTFL?"

Edit:
I have the movie thread on another tab but this thread has priority.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 25 mai 2010 - 07:48 .

[Sand King]

kraidy1117 wrote...

Ieldra you are right about the voicing, when I first played ME it took awhile to really get into Shepard but after awhile I really got into him. I am a very good Role player so it's easy for me to assume the role of someone, even if they are voiced.

Oh and god morning, you missed the Mass Effect movie rage.

That whole crybaby thread deserved a *CornetteFace*

[kraidy1117]

Ieldra2 wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

Nightwriter wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

Nightwriter wrote...
What lines, specifically, in the suicide mission?

The major suicide speachs (after the normandy crashs and you pcik the tech and fire team leader) and the speach before the platform flies up.

Huh. I actually thought that fell a little bit flat (the lines themselves, I think, not the voice acting).

I felt the lines where amazing. "Make me proud, make your selfs proud."

Ugh.Really, you thought *that* amazing?

When I heard those lines, I thought that if someone would survive the mission and go on to live his or her live somewhere else, (s)he'd speak of Shepard like Mordin spoke of Kirrahe: "Good commander, but a bit of a cloaca. Loved his speeches...'Make me proud'."

Somehow, these speeches always fail to evoke the passion that they're made to evoke. They just sound silly. I always wonder "Does this really work? Why aren't they all ROTFL?"

Edit:
I have the movie thread on another tab but this thread has priority.

Well the whole point was to get moral up, and really those speachs would get people's moral up. I just felt that Bioware did a good job with the suicide mission speachs, and Meers deliver was well done.

[Commissar Gash]

Sand King wrote...

Wow, Colonel, just wow:wub:
Why don't you make some Jacob art btw? Maybe something with Super Jacob?

[Ieldra]

kraidy1117 wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

Nightwriter wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

Nightwriter wrote...
What lines, specifically, in the suicide mission?

The major suicide speachs (after the normandy crashs and you pcik the tech and fire team leader) and the speach before the platform flies up.

Huh. I actually thought that fell a little bit flat (the lines themselves, I think, not the voice acting).

I felt the lines where amazing. "Make me proud, make your selfs proud."

Ugh.Really, you thought *that* amazing?

When I heard those lines, I thought that if someone would survive the mission and go on to live his or her live somewhere else, (s)he'd speak of Shepard like Mordin spoke of Kirrahe: "Good commander, but a bit of a cloaca. Loved his speeches...'Make me proud'."

Somehow, these speeches always fail to evoke the passion that they're made to evoke. They just sound silly. I always wonder "Does this really work? Why aren't they all ROTFL?"

Well the whole point was to get moral up, and really those speachs would get people's moral up. I just felt that Bioware did a good job with the suicide mission speachs, and Meers deliver was well done.

I know what the point was. But all I thought was "If I had someone deliver something like this in RL, I'd be completely convinced the mission will fail".

[kraidy1117]

Ieldra2 wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

Nightwriter wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

Nightwriter wrote...
What lines, specifically, in the suicide mission?

The major suicide speachs (after the normandy crashs and you pcik the tech and fire team leader) and the speach before the platform flies up.

Huh. I actually thought that fell a little bit flat (the lines themselves, I think, not the voice acting).

I felt the lines where amazing. "Make me proud, make your selfs proud."

Ugh.Really, you thought *that* amazing?

When I heard those lines, I thought that if someone would survive the mission and go on to live his or her live somewhere else, (s)he'd speak of Shepard like Mordin spoke of Kirrahe: "Good commander, but a bit of a cloaca. Loved his speeches...'Make me proud'."

Somehow, these speeches always fail to evoke the passion that they're made to evoke. They just sound silly. I always wonder "Does this really work? Why aren't they all ROTFL?"

Well the whole point was to get moral up, and really those speachs would get people's moral up. I just felt that Bioware did a good job with the suicide mission speachs, and Meers deliver was well done.

I know what the point was. But all I thought was "If I had someone deliver something like this in RL, I'd be completely convinced the mission will fail".

LOL, wel maybe Shepard thought it would give good moral and it does because no one died for me

I do see what your saying tho Ieldra, I could see how some people would be LOLWUT?

[Andaius20]

hey folks Kraidy like my Miri revy shot?

[VampireCommando]

hey guys did i miss anything good whilst i was away?

And what does everyone think of the Mass Effect movie thats been confirmed?

On the bright side i guess we all know who will be playing or should be playing Miranda lol

And the sex scenes, i reckon they will be Ash and Mirianda, i'd stake my life on it because there gonna make a cannon Shep, and in the T.V. and internet trailers the Sheploo is always scene with the human female LI. In a film they are gonna have to cannon Shep, because you cant have the multiple choices in a film, so i really would stake my life on it that its the Human LI's - Ash and Miranda- that get the romantic roles, and i think that the majority of players- not people on this fourm- but people who played the game and arent on here romanced those two party members as we as a community represent a small minority of the gamers who actully play ME.

Modifié par VampireCommando, 25 mai 2010 - 09:14 .

[Errol Dnamyx]

I´m glad that Bioware will be involved in the making of the film and has the right to decide where it is going. And I´m praying that it doesn´t suck like almost every movie based on a game.

If the movie will be about the story of ME2, which I doubt, I´d also be very curious if Yvonne Strahovski is willing to play Miranda.

[VampireCommando]

I see the movie(s) follwing the games, 1 to 3, i think it makes the most sense, if the first film is sucessful of course, and i argee i'm so happy that BW is involved in the development, that should ensure its quality, as for Yvonne Strahovski playing Miranda, i think she will, i mean it wouldmake the most sense, she is the voice and face of Miranda and shes a very talented actor, so its all up to her to she if she wants the role, if its ever cast that is.

[Ieldra]

I'm at Miranda's loyalty mission again. At last. I had begun to suffer from Miranda withdrawal. Curious about whether Legion has anything to say here.



Here's one of the priceless moments of ME2:







And since there can never be enough Miranda, here's one of Strikor's fanart pics inspired by an Yvonne Strahovski photograph:

[TheSixthghoul]

Sense, there making a movie, I think(if they haven't said what its was about) its going to be about the first Contact War.It's going to star Anderson made even Saran's brother maybe, I'm going to guess if they even mention Shepard,it going to be at the end and a pan shot back to Anderson being introduced to his new recruit.

As an added note, the reason I think this,is because if the do it based on the series they will have to canonize Shepard. Predetermined gender,race,background,LI,ending,Morality, I done know about you but when Revan was canonized I was pissed, I was really pissed when the canonized the exile not only to the light side but all so gender,just for a book.

Modifié par Sixth Goul, 25 mai 2010 - 01:35 .

[jtav]

They canonize everything in Star Wars. Still, I shall do my best to pretend the movie doesn't exist.

[Valmy]

jtav wrote...

They canonize everything in Star Wars. Still, I shall do my best to pretend the movie doesn't exist.

Shouldn't we wait to see if it is good first?

[Errol Dnamyx]

No, it´s a movie based on a game. It´s going to be awful. 100%

[jtav]

And they'll have to "canonize" Shepard. That'll be fun.

[TheSixthghoul]

Well, only way I'll ever pay to see this movie,is if Bioware as absolute power over the script.That way it will at least have some creditable.

[Valmy]

Errol Dnamyx wrote...

No, it´s a movie based on a game. It´s going to be awful. 100%

It is a Bioware game.  They know how to tell a story.

Unless you consider every game to be equal....in which case why aren't you a fan of every game ever made by every game company if you believe there is nothing to differentiate quality?

[Valmy]

jtav wrote...

And they'll have to "canonize" Shepard. That'll be fun.

I have read nothing about the plot.  How do you know this?

This is a bit ridiculous.